Do you guys ever feel like you're in a mental prison?

GTOH4U · 2019-12-18T00:35:31+00:00

Have you ever considered men who became explorers, clergy and other focused vocations that were independent of women? Your logic makes you believe that simple nuclear family aspirations are the baseline for achievement. Are you unable to be alone? Are you simply blue pilled and brainwashed by your peer group rather than having independent thought? Can you easily read and understand the motivations of others?

A number of mgtow go their own way because they don't want to be plugged into the consensus, they want to determine their own path to self actualization, some mgtow are likely repulsed by most people's baseless lives. Do you want to live in an average house on an average street with an average wife with an average life trajectory towards death?

CoinSwapTrader · 2019-12-18T00:25:12+00:00

I know many simps with the "right" thought process to be in a slave relationshit with a female slave master...

Mamsplained · 2019-12-18T00:41:42+00:00

I think our problem with finding relationships is we don't want relationships, but what do I know. So I suppose you can say it's because of our own thought process, working exactly as according to plan.

strongandhappy · 2019-12-18T00:40:19+00:00

Actually, I was just reflecting on how incredibly happy I am to be in my current situation. About to game with an old friend, enough money to quit work at any time, looking forward to an amazing few holiday weeks of social events and free time, and I saw a picture of a man and woman online and the only reaction I had was "glad I'm not dealing with that shit". If you're not mgtow, you really haven't opened your eyes to what's going on, so good luck man.

Fuxk1n · 2019-12-18T00:19:39+00:00

No. It's a society of women void of morals and responsibility for their sexual deviancy. No social or legal consequences for their misbehaviour. And you're trying to tell us we are the problem. God bless you man.

DangZagnut · 2019-12-18T00:25:21+00:00

Dont you guys ever feel like the reason you have trouble finding relationships is your thought process?

So you think we're all incels, because the idea that a man doesn't worship and value pussy like you must mean we're all insane?

I bet it's impossible to fathom that just because I can get laid tomorrow, I would choose not to?

Maybe you should question why it seems "normal" for a man to worship pussy so much he'll destroy his entire empire just to get it, based on a fantasy? Because that sounds like hallucinatory schizophrenia to me.

Fuxk1n · 2019-12-18T00:29:31+00:00

Also you're gay, please go away. Can't stand you sodomites.

5411S · 2019-12-18T00:32:41+00:00

Hey JW, if I did that I'd be a conformist. I'm not completely a part of this sub either. I think some of the comments are misguided and some are sound. I not going to elaborate any further because I don't care to elaborate further. Years ago, I was telling a group of 20-something feminists that we are already equals(mockingly); they laughed and said it's too late for that, we (women) are better than you(men). And thats the same attitude on FDS.

udsdown · 2019-12-18T00:33:47+00:00

A mental prison? You’re right, I haven’t thought about it that way before.....I really ought to quit nagging and screaming and shaming and accusing myself of cheating and bullying me into sex one day. I guess those things are my fault though and I’m just trapped in my own mental prison.

OverlordWhiteWolf · 2019-12-18T00:38:31+00:00

You can definitely make a relationship/marriage better, but it requires an extraordinary amount of work. It involves rearranging a ton of mental models, picking up new, healthier habits, dropping bad ones...it’s a hell of a lot of effort and mastery of oneself, and it takes a long time, but I believe it can be done.

That said, even if you put in all the effort, there’s no guarantee that your relationship will work out all peachy. In fact, it’s still going to be stressful, just way less stressful.

Oddly enough, a major first step of improving your relationship/marriage is to stop caring about it as much.

Flashmode1 · 2019-12-18T00:47:52+00:00

MGTOW is not about having trouble finding a relationship. That is incels. MGTOW is about the rejection of relationships that take advantage of men, unfair courts, child support and alimony that unfairly strip men of wealth, and forging your own path is a society that does not care about you.

2019-12-18T00:51:18+00:00

I CAN have a woman. I choose not to. I’ve got better things to be doing. I’ve got girls now who text me, complaining I never text them first. They have nothing to offer me. They have no aim in life but to spend money, so I fuck ‘em and ignore them, bitches ain’t shit but hoes and tricks.

2019-12-18T00:57:49+00:00

We're ALL in our mental prisons, no matter which subreddit you belong to or what your beliefs are.

MGTOW knows it's safer to avoid women nowadays. It's just not worth it. The game is rigged against men. Some MGTOW date but don't form long term relationships. General concensus is to never marry, to never get yourself in a situation that could be used to hurt you (like a #metoo bullshit). Some MGTOW prefer to go monk-mode. Which is like complete abstinence from dating. Instead we try to promote investing into ourselves and living to the best of our abilities.

A LOT of people come to post on this subreddit to vent and ask for advice ( legal and life advice) from the more experienced members. Sometimes this makes it seem like all we do is bash women, but it's just to reinforce our reasons to stay away by highlighting the prime examples. There's a lot of young men out there who only think with their emotions when it comes to women and it's important they hear advice before making a huge mistake, like buying a house with a cheating wife, or having kids with her, or even getting married in the first place.

2019-12-18T01:04:16+00:00

Your ignorance is forgiven, we've all been there at some point. You just stumbled in here, not really knowing what this sub is about, which is understandable if you've only seen the memes and the lols. But I'm going to tell you something I shouldn't have to tell you, because it plays up to the idea that a man's word, a man's relevance, should be measured by whether he can get pussy or not. You seem to be heavily plugged into that mindset though (speaking of 'mental prisons'), so get this:

Lots of guys on here are getting laid, and some of us even practice relationships. Some are currently married, some are divorced. Some have been married and divorced many times. Some have kids, some don't. Some have never been married, either because they wisely avoided it, or because they dodged a couple of bullets through no credit of their own. And yes, it's true, some have struggled to get with women all their lives, that's ok too.

There are only three rules for life (going forward) here: No marriage, no cohabitation, no kids.

Wanna know why? Well, that's a rabbit hole too deep for me to go into now. I suggest you start with the sidebar.

Welcome.

ZeroBlink · 2019-12-18T01:05:28+00:00

No it's the opposite having the experience of being a "normal good guy" and going trough the whole spectrum of experiences, having knowledge of different viewpoints between a good guy and MGTOW , makes my perspective much broader and insight much more valuable.

Than someone with binary way of thinking, such as yourself.

In fact

You posed a loaded question ,without second thought. You project YOUR OWN close-minded behavior onto us. You are the one who as you put it" has trouble finding understanding with us due to your thought process"

Men blame themselves foremost, we're solution seekers by nature.

Problem -> Research -> Solution.

If there is a nail that needs to be nailed down, we do it , not shame others into it.

Unless it's too late to fix anything.

Title	Do you guys ever feel like you're in a mental prison?
Author	just_call_me_JW
Upvotes	0
Comments	16
Date	December 18, 2019 12:13 AM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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