Some red pillers say marriage and kids are worth it with the right woman. Some say it's not.

debanked · 2019-12-14T00:27:24+00:00

How do you find the right woman? 35-50% divorce rate says it's not going to be easy

Copypastable · 2019-12-14T00:51:08+00:00

Some red pillers spew pillow talk when pussy whipped.

notsopumpkin · 2019-12-14T01:30:24+00:00

As with anything in life, it is a balance of risk and reward. Some people feel the risk of the BS a marriage can put you through is worth the reward of regular sex, other's say it is not. We each decide the value we place on each and the risks we are willing to take.

I am married, with kids and for now I am happy, but with the benefit of hindsight I do wish I never got married and if this marriage breaks down I will never have a relationship again

strongandhappy · 2019-12-14T00:38:49+00:00

Mgtow is right, it's not worth it.

Encrypted587 · 2019-12-14T00:43:38+00:00

I can't see how it's worth it either

bamabeatsny · 2019-12-14T01:05:12+00:00

Misery loves company. They want everyone in the same boat as them.

thatMGTOWguy · 2019-12-14T05:24:04+00:00

Some people partake in gambling, some do not. Who’s right?

DangZagnut · 2019-12-14T00:21:45+00:00

If you’re really into breeding and lineage and religious stuff perhaps, then it’s worth it.

Which is a way of saying something that has nothing to do with the wife is important.

Maybe social “respectability” or a way to show the world you’re not gay. Again, nothing to do with the wife.

The rest are things related to being a needy emotional cripple. Again, nothing to do with the wife.

riverinshetland · 2019-12-14T04:25:38+00:00

Marriage is the exact point and exact divide where the amount of sex and quality of life starts declining. There is not one thing which works in guys' favour in marriage. You decide.

Fuxk1n · 2019-12-14T00:30:02+00:00

I wish it was that easy. Every time I thought it was right and let my guard down it wasn't. The way I am when I attract women isn't the man I want to be as a father and husband, but women only want me when I'm acting immoral and overall being a degenerate scumbag. So it's a double edged sword.

Sorikaner · 2019-12-14T00:42:41+00:00

Marriage is not worth it these days, I do want kids and can see why others may say that it is worth it, but marriage do not benefit men, so it's worthless to us

imoveritallready · 2019-12-14T01:45:57+00:00

A happy ever after marriage is a statistical anomaly.

Ocjab · 2019-12-14T02:04:51+00:00

I love my kids. I get to see them 2 times a week ( which is a lot compared to others ). You want to risk that pain? It already hurts like hell, man.

Resplendent_Fervor · 2019-12-14T02:18:41+00:00

Theres just this idea thats in peoples heads "it won't happen to me" and some of them are right! Not every woman cheats, not every marriage ends in divorce. But the man knows nothing else, in his mind its family or be alone for the rest of his life. When its put like that, yeah a lot of guys would rather be with a woman.

putconfac · 2019-12-14T02:58:37+00:00

I'm red pilled, I'm married, I have kids with the right woman [sarcasm].

Marriage is never worthy have kids of you want but NEVER marry.

me-dgaf · 2019-12-14T03:45:32+00:00

marriage--never.

Imagine you tell your local restaurant that you will not eat anywhere else no matters how shitty their service and food is. And if you do, or if they feel like it, they can take 50% of your assets and make your life hell.

On top of that, you know the wall will hit, the service and aesthetic WILL decline.

Why? Married men--why?

Kids: There are other ways if you really want it. The earth is crowded enough, I am in no hurry.

ValhallaBoundBoy · 2019-12-14T04:03:31+00:00

People aren't homogenous. Priorities are important. People have built lives with women and stayed together until they died. They weren't perfect, they weren't magical or lovey dovey, but they made it 'work'. Many will report long periods of time of frustration and sadness, but eventually they work through things or sorta move on.

In a time where you couldn't just get a divorce for a variety of reasons, people just made things work. It is kind of like growing up in a family, but on the opposite end of your life. You are with this person, you don't really have a choice about things, so you learn to enjoy the good and compartmentalize the bad.

For some people this seems better than living single for your whole life and having no kids.

Ody_ssey · 2019-12-14T05:23:47+00:00

You can't determine the right parachute from faulty ones without opening it in the air.

nepane · 2019-12-14T05:58:33+00:00

It’s a gamble.

My daughter is an awalt drama causing girl. It’s a nature of things so I don’t complain. She’s shit testing and crap, but she does also make her daddy proud, as she’s good in some things.

My son is pure joy though. Probably the only person who really loves me at this point.

Some kids are shit though. Some are plain evil. It‘s a huge gamble and you never know what you will get.

ImstarIordman · 2019-12-14T00:42:35+00:00

Called purple pill

EndTimesMartyr · 2019-12-14T03:13:24+00:00

Only works with Sharia.

1-800-CALL-MGTOW · 2019-12-14T12:46:14+00:00

When at least 2/3rds of women are dangerous I wouldn't risk signing a contract with any of them.

[deleted] · 2019-12-14T13:25:33+00:00

Personally, I think not. I'm more than happy with outsourcing the responsibility of human reproduction to guys who either aren't red-pilled, or red pillers who're fine with constantly having to game their wives / mother of their children.

Although I don't consider myself part of any particular club, I gravitate towards MGTOW because "no marriage, no cohabitation, no kids" is more in line with my own philosophy ("always give yourself an easy way out"), especially now as I'm fast approaching 40.

I think all relationships eventually grow stale, and that's not even all on women. Men get sick of their women to, although statistically women tend to beat them to it. I know many married men with kids, and not a single one of them has a life I envy them - it's rather the other way around, to the degree they can even admit that to themselves (which is hard when you're already trapped, and need to make the best of it).

When I look back on my past relationships, I count my blessings that I didn't knock any of them up. If I did, I wouldn't have the time and the finances I currently have. They were all "the right woman" for a while, but the woman you dump (or who dumps you) isn't the woman you once got together with. Having kids in that situation, means you have to keep dealing with them.

I still "cheat" (regarding Going My Own Way) as in I get female validation through being in a non-cohabiting relationship where I've marked my boundaries very clear from the start, but I'm under no illusion that it's going to last, that eventually she won't want more. All it takes for it to turn from "great" to "shit" is a change in power dynamics, and that's why I personally don't think "red pill awareness" is compatible with wanting kids and marriage, or even cohabitation.

The way I see it, kids, cohabitation and marriage is the mother of all shit tests, so by going along with that you've already lost all of your frame. Those are major power dynamics changers, and it robs you of an easy way out. So even though I'm still not free of my basic biological imperatives (still seeking sex and female validation), I can easily imagine that's where I'll be in my 40s/50s. It seems to be the direction my mentality is headed as I grow older, and it will be nice then to have the option to just walk away from it all.

11SOCK · 2019-12-14T16:09:41+00:00

As long as you know the risks and consequences of your actions then there's nothing wrong with getting married or raising a family. It all comes down to how important having kids is to you. Of course, you can have kids without getting married so it all depends on the mindset of the person you're with.

VetteVet83 · 2019-12-14T16:33:49+00:00

Kids are worth a ton. Marriage has to be approached from the most strategic standpoint imaginable, Or avoided. Women don’t require a marriage for procreation any longer so why risk having to give her a golden parachute when she inevitably gets bored?

lookatthevoidking · 2019-12-15T18:08:44+00:00

Your choice no one can make you do anything if you don't want

Title	Some red pillers say marriage and kids are worth it with the right woman. Some say it's not.
Author	Rajonkang1
Upvotes	11
Comments	29
Date	December 14, 2019 12:19 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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