I think my hope in women has just been killed after reading this guys post...

DangZagnut · 2019-11-13T15:30:28+00:00

a hatred/ resentment of the average woman.

So criticism of women.

Im sure you've probably been screwed in unimaginable ways to lead you here

MGTOW isn't where you "end up" because you're damaged. You are MGTOW and you can do basic math of a cost/benefit analysis of women being worth relationships with and that one should guard themselves before blindly trusting ancient religious ceremonies.

I feel like im starting to be pushed more toward the idea in a single life focusing on accomplishing my own goals and trying to lead a life that will leave me with having done cool things and feeling like it was a good life by the end of it.

You're not "pushed" toward it. You want it because it makes sense. if it makes you happy, why should you ruin that by entering into a government contract that has the entire benefit to you of letting you know what painful anal sex feels like?

Anyway I hope you guys will have me because while I still don't really have hate for women I just don't have an interest for making myself available to be used by them anymore.

We aren't the judgmental pricks (well I am) that propaganda has told you, although you still seem to think MGTOW is some sort of failure condition where losers and woman-haters go. One day you might even realize that criticizing/making fun of stupid people who happen to be women or embrace stupid religious ideologies like feminism does not equal "hate".

peguy2000 · 2019-11-13T15:14:59+00:00

Same man. There are a lot of shitty people in this world and my hopes and dreams of creating a healthy and stable family are pretty much out of the window.

Mryoyo99 · 2019-11-13T16:07:37+00:00

Hatred, frustration, despair etc..

These may be things that lead some men here but we stay for the peace and enlightenment. Welcome brother.

EL10RUB · 2019-11-13T17:47:26+00:00

Hate is not a word that I would associate with MGTOW. MGTOW is the end game from taking the red pill. Part of that process is anger, thats ok. Its always fine to feel anger, its a naturally occurring human emotion. Its what you do with that anger thats important.

Youre bound to feel anger at first when you come to the realisation of what female true nature is. Anger about how society conditioned you. At how women have treated you with entitlement and contempt. That women know theyre c***s and choose not to do anything about it. Blah blah. Its just part of learning. Feel the anger, observe it and then make a decision about how you want to go forward from there.

Simple.

ChadowyFigure · 2019-11-13T19:15:39+00:00

You sound torn, so I will give what is becoming my standard devil's advocate response. I don't hate women, am married since before taking the pill, love my wife (cooks, total whore for me, works while I keep house). Nonetheless:

- These guys are basically right about women.

- Don't ever get married. I wouldn't do it again as it is an unnecessary legal burden. If you want to do something insane like have children, do it somewhere where you won't automatically be considered married or otherwise get too legally screwed.

- I still browse this sub, and think about whether I should go hard MGTOW.

I do think a "healthy" relationship is possible, but it is getting harder and harder to find non-garbage women, I hear. Add to that the fact that even with a "decent" woman you will only be able to maintain it long term by gaming her, bossing her around, fucking her good, having good genetics, not being afraid to leave her at any time, etc. So if these things are not easy/acceptable to you, I'd say to stay away. I only get away with what I do because I am very lucky for a number of reasons, and have a much higher SMV than my wife.

If you decide to relationship only do it with chicks you know very well, and that you can keep under your thumb. Train them for years before attempting anything big like kids or cohab. That sounds terrible, but you will likely have to teach her how to not be a jerk to some extent, because no one else did.

For most men these days, I am afraid that a careful weighing of the options might make MGTOW the right choice. But you must choke that fucking red pill down, my friend, even if you decide to pursue a LTR and kids. The good thing is that you are already wising up to the correct plan, whether you want to go MGTOW, attempt a trad family, or fuck thousands of sexy bitches:

focusing on accomplishing my own goals and trying to lead a life that will leave me with having done cool things and feeling like it was a good life by the end of it

2019-11-13T21:25:08+00:00

To be honest, most guys here don't hate woman. They are in rage stage, because majority of our lives have been brainwashed and when you see the reality of it, it's kinda leave you with uneven feeling and you become anger of the society.

When you pass this stage, then things will become easier, you'll understand woman better and see the red flags from miles away. They will flipped over because once a woman see herself hopeless, because she can't play some mind games with men, she is useless.

We are not preaching someone to join mgtow, it's your choice. They reality is nasty thing and is better to live out of the matrix.

Grant1412 · 2019-11-13T23:02:18+00:00

Guys, when you get evidence of betrayal like the guy in the linked original post, never confront your wife. It's the worst thing you can do.

Instead, collect the evidence all together and go straight to a lawyer.

Then you can approach the issue from a defensable position.

This guy foolishly showed his hand and now his wife has every advantage she needs to completely cut him off from his daughter.

If you think your wife is cheating, go to a lawyer first. If your wrong, you just have a bill to pay. But if you are right, you absolutely need that lawyer.

Just because you married a woman, that doesn't make her family. Not in her mind it doesn't.

z31fanatic · 2019-11-13T15:11:43+00:00

We already have 3 or 4 threads in the last few hours for the same story.

Valor_X · 2019-11-13T15:49:55+00:00

Link?

LacheesonthemenJ · 2019-11-13T15:53:24+00:00

I think it's like peeing on an electric fence. You always hear stories on how much it hurts and it might sound funny or painful sometimes. You never really know until you do it and realize 'Holy Hell! It's so much worse than I imagined!'

MDMantis-Toboggan · 2019-11-13T19:36:43+00:00

Have you ever heard of Jason In Hell? You should look into it. Your faith in women will die with that story alone.

Wardedbilledanteater · 2019-11-14T02:50:10+00:00

I encourage you to go to YouTube and bichute. Check out Undead Chronic, hammer hand, Mr Elite, Eman67. These men don’t pull any punches.

Title	I think my hope in women has just been killed after reading this guys post...
Author	Phishing_for_Fishies
Upvotes	8
Comments	18
Date	November 13, 2019 3:04 PM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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