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[–]ThatOneTy67 points68 points69 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Yup, agree. Truly is a clown world.
[–][deleted] 27 points28 points29 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's slightly redundant, only children and pets are loved unconditionally. A woman is your first child. Which is why birthrates are plummeting, who would want a second actual child given how poor the quality of the first is.
[–]LotBuilder8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Never heard it put that way but you are not wrong.
[–]xXx420VTECxXx3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Is it clown world if it's always been this way since humans came to be
[–]kubicas0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Men also provide attention. Thats currency that men shouldnt give out too much without pay. You can complain and try to shame women or want another behavior from them. You cannot. Leave your romantical ideals and see things for what they are. Also fuck oneitis and monogamy. Deal with it. Law issues and family courts are different story and absolutely unfair.
[–]aa40607942 points43 points44 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Chris Rock....spitting the awful truth before Red Pill was even a thing
[–]Belrick_NZ5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Its worse than that
Dead beat dads
Loser husbands
Providing shit for wives and kids but just not ENOUGH to satisfy
[–]cattypat1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's worse even than that. Don't like how women act today? Must be a sexist, evil misogynist or gay.
Don't like paying taxes to lazy single women? Enemy of society and law.
Mens rights? "You must be a mad disturbed person, men rule the world and can do whatever they want, don't you know patriarchy is real? Women always deserve alimony, women deserve equal pay regardless of work done"
The rabbit hole gets deeper and deeper the longer you dig, it's awful trying to survive being a man in today's world.
[–]AdrenalineJunkySloth26 points27 points28 points 6 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
It's true. Men are disposable, less valuable, not loved. Society loves what we PROVIDE. They don't really care what you think or feel or want. It's what do you have, what are you doing, what do you provide, what do you create, build, make, discover? People love kids because kids are "innocent" and don't know any better and need our love and guidance. People love females because they "give life" and are essential to the human race surviving.
We can wipe out 75% of ALL men in the world and the human race will probably be perfectly fine. It's an unfair life that we have to deal with.. and we do. You don't see men complaining and crying and throwing little fits. What we don't like is being take advantage of, being taken for granted, and not being appreciated. This is why MGTOW exists. Not only are we making a ton of sacrifices already, it's not enough. Apparently we're all selfish, rapists, misogynistic, homophobic, etc. We won't take it any longer and if they want to play the victim then we'll retreat and let them take over our role and see how they really like it.
[–]Greeneyeball6731 points32 points33 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
If 75% of men were killed, nothing would get done.
[–]AdrenalineJunkySloth10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
LOL. True if you want to get into the economics of things.
[–]rippierippo0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Automation and robots will take care.
[–]Psyyko4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Society loves what women provide too, which is pussy. Take pussy away and they're worth less than men. Everyone needs to provide something in order to be valuable. Make no mistake about it. You're just providing something different tham women.
[–]AdrenalineJunkySloth6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I mean... the way they "provide" pussy is by merely existing. Doesn't take much work or effort at all. To be more specific all they need to do is eat and sleep, their body does it for them. They need to just not get fat and most can't even manage that.
Also, at least their "pussy" is a part of who they are. I would much rather be admired for my looks and body rather than my car or house. I would rather be used for my body than used for my stuff and things. Being used for your body at least people actually find you attractive and there's some desire there.
Both men and woman want to be loved and desired for who they are. It's much harder for a man to be desired for who he is. You judge a female by her looks and people call you shallow and say "what about her personality?"
Yet people ONLY judge a guy from the things he has and no one calls it shallow or and no one says "what about his personality?" Yea, we make fun of gold diggers because they have no shame in doing so but a closer look at our society there's pretty much no difference.
[–]kubicas1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
Agree but also chicks like personalities too. A lot of them act entitled and judge you by what you have. Though, I see a lot of guys not having much but still making out with girls. The guys cant give in into those games because then you feel and become an empty vessel for her to use. Instead guys need to fuck with on the mental level. Thats where guys personality comes in, does he feel sexy about himself, can you flirt and have fun with women. There are a lot of guys who dont know how to entertain a woman in a way that he also enjoys so its not only about being a tool. I know relationships where they just enjoy themselves and other ones where a guy is an absolute tool being used and not respected and from these women guys need to leave. We guys also think we need to be mr perfect, mr nice guy and thats just bs. Opening up, showing affection, touch, desire, being honest to the bone like Patrice O Neal and women dig it because there are too many guys acting up, faking it, deceiving, trying hard to be cool and shit... women see that and get upper hand and use you lol. If she doesnt match you in that way or is not into you then you can maybe still hang out as friends or totally next her. Guys get too attached romantically out of desperation and for validity. Thats when healthy MGTOW comes in. To feel good about yourself even without woman though you still can pursue them but you need to get rid of idea of monogamy and oneitis...
[–]AdrenalineJunkySloth0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
What you are talking about is purely "fun and games" phase. I'm talking about deep at the roots. I know MANY girls that have tons... TONS of guys that want them except no one "wants' them. Guys only want to fuck them and have fun with them but no one actually likes them and want to settle with them.
I'm talking about the same thing but in reverse. Getting girls for fun is easy. But how many can truly attract and keep a girl around in a way where she cannot get enough of you?
"Guys get too attached romantically out of desperation and for validity" I agree with this statement 100% Is this is also precisely my point. They like guys this for fun and validation and sometimes play your game and have fun with you for this. BUT, they do not truly want you nor desire you nor are attracted to you.
[–]kubicas1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
This is why I am kind of happy by living by myself. Meeting and having fun with girls, some are very dull and dumb and well, then its not that much worth of the squeeze unless she desires my cock. If not then bye, next. Some chicks are fun, want adventure and hang out with you and I like them and on top have sex with them. Sometimes its exhausting and draining though so I also take it easy. I always remember its my turn only and have to play the game like in any relationship although man and girl is more intense. It sucks when you develop feelings and her too but I will stay with a bit of distance. Cohabitation for 6 months turns couple into common law so yeah I avoid it for my survival. If she decides to break up then shit hurts but fuck this I gotta move on. I might be depressive up to a week or month lol but then you hang out with friends, maybe other chicks or fucking reward yourself with escorts :D I avoid any fake people guys and girls. If I smell red flags then I ghost or even honestly tell them that in the face because you cant hide truth under the sun. Some ppl respect you for that, others hate you but the real ones will stay. Guys who attach themselves are suffering from oneitis. I stopped believing and wanting to stay together with someone forever. World is big, make new friendships, lovers, memories. I dont want to really settle down in this clown world where everything is so uncertain.
[–]AdrenalineJunkySloth0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Agree brotha! MGTOW
[–]Psyyko0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
First off all, there's quite an exaggeration in your statement. Pussy is a poweful and valuable tool, but that doesn't mean every woman gets put on a pedestal. The vast majority of women i know have shitty jobs and shitty lives. Nobody just offered them a great life and a ton of privileges just because they have pussy. The only advantage they seem to have over the average man is that it's easier for them to get sex. But that's it.
Second, men and women are treated differently and have different advantages in life. Men, too, are allowed behaviours that a women would be criticized for. Men, too, through all the history have had privileges that women never had. Not saying that one has it better than the other. It's just that neither side seems to have the ability to recognize each others struggles. You simply look at what they have that you don't have and bitch about it.
Third, the idea that a man needs to have material things to give in order to be valuable is BS too. Most women being interested in money is BS too. I actually live quite well and drive a porsche, and i can guarantee you that i rarely see any change in the level of interest a woman displays after finding out what i have, compared to before knowing. Yes, i've met a few gold diggers, but the vast majority of women who don't want me, won't change their minds after finding out what i have. That's an hollywood myth. In fact, i deeply believe men care a lot more about money than women. They're usually more ambitious, they believe money can get them the pussy they want and they have overall much more expensive hobbies and life goals, which makes them be a lot more into money than women.
I also know plenty of men that without being rich or even super hot have a ton of people around them who like them and are overall successful in life. So this idea that a man needs to have a lot of things for society to give a fuck about them isn't exactly true.
I'm not disagreeing with things you're presenting. Perhaps our culture and upbringing is different. Perhaps I've been around the wrong people, have bad parents, and have been around different types of people all my life. I'll agree with you, I just can't relate to it.
[–]kubicas-1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Is it really all what you do and shit? How come then chicks make out with ugly motherfuckers and not super rich? Maybe they will dump them when a new model comes around but what I found If girls have fun with you outside sex, youre honest then they dig you and want to fuck. I think we guys also get programmed and think we need to be mr perfect 10mln $ house, aston martin and pretty much 666 guys. I call bullshit.
We're talking about majority and deep down at the roots. Imagine IF all girls have the same exact choices, opportunity, and freedom. Most will gravitate towards a certain result or outcome. Also time plays a very crucial role in it. What you mention also depend on what time they are at in their life. The younger the girl the less they are to act on their nature. The younger they are the more influence by society and media they are. They truly believe in the "happily ever after" and "prince charming" bullshit.
But as they age, realize they have a clock, hit the wall, get heartbroken and see how life REALLY is. They start to be more of their real nature. Of course you see girls dating and having sex with ugly or under average guys... not all girls have access to top level alphas all the time. But at any given time, the guys she's with fulfill mainly one of two roles: beta bucks, or alpha fucks. She's with the guy because that's the best at the moment whether because he's alpha or because pays to take her out and she's just coasting along.
What you need to do is give that a few years until real alphas or rich guys come along and see if she decides to still be happily with the "ugly" and "broke" guy. I doubt it. Even if she temporarily chooses so the thought in mind will slowly grow until she leaves. It's a ticking time bomb.
Again. Not 100% are like this. Just saying most are. This is actually very evident and observable throughout history, society, media, experience, and real life people. It's pure mathematical and science and biology. Hard to argue against that. What you're doing does have merit, however it's very extreme. It's like saying getting bitten by a poisonous snake won't kill you because you know someone who got bit in lived.
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I've experienced this personally: Girl at worked pursued me to date. I finally gave in and we started dating. I lost my job, she dumped me, as I recall using the words "loser" and "poor".
[–]carninja6810 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Never shit where you eat
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fact!
I learned that the hard way, never again :-)
[–]Notlikeotherguys7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Love this
[–]Phantom_Spark7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Of course he was red pulled. He had reality smack him in the face. Divorce has a tendency of doing that.
But yes. Totally true unless you’re the top 10% Alpha Chad and Tyrone the 3rd.
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[–]LotBuilder1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I guess you could blame men that allow women to skate without without giving much of anything. If all those dead bedroom wives got dumped things would change
[–]Blackkillerjoe3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Clown, clowny world
[–]OhdogeG1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Can I see the video/link
[–]Shaikan_1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Even then, he's not loved. He's blamed for everybody else's mistakes and shamed for being masculine.
[–]kubicas1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Men need to stop being so desperate for women's attention and value themselves more, by focusing on improving themselves and their life, this will naturally lead them to being more attractive. This would change the market women dominate currently drastically, making women try harder and lower their insanely inflated expectations. Unfortunately we are in a hyper female obsessed society at the moment with all the media hoes getting easy attention from their follower slaves obsessing over them, especially on Instagram. Its going to take a long time before we all realise how worthless women whoring themselves online really is when every single one of them is doing it.
[–]IaIsgod0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not sure women are on my list
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
100 % truth, sadly.
[–]Big_Andron0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
his last standup was brilliant
[–]MuleFool420 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Absolutely. And that was years ago. More true now than ever.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
not just agree - I experienced it first hand over and over again. They've beaten it into my head
[–]attilathehamn-2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not really
[+]barbaric_toaster-11 points-10 points-9 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Don’t agree, y’all just haven’t been outside enough.
[–]Xenophon940 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
How so? People down-vote you, but I am interested in what you mean.
[+]LordDunarote-13 points-12 points-11 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
not true,women are expected to provide pussy
[–]Pruny8512 points13 points14 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We are geneticaly hardcoded to care for women, even if they dont provide shit.
[–]oirectine008 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Not necessarily.
Women can provide the suggestion or promise of pussy and/or commitment and never deliver, leading men on. In many cases, the man will still love them anyway, and society will take her side and demonize the man for having sexual urges.
Compare that to the contempt for a man without a job.
[–]arapaima12345-1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I dont know where you are from but a woman who does not give sex to a committed man is not well considered in most parts of the world.
Men who still pursue these women are like women pursuing bad boys that treat them like shit.
[–]oirectine003 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I wasn't talking in the context of commitment.
I was talking in the context of things like Twitch streamers who can get thousands of dollars in donations simply for being female and showering a bit of affection onto males.
[–]Magnificent_Penis0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Even in a "committed relationship" dead bedrooms are all too common.
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