I joined this place late 2015. The idea of a LTR/marriage was mocked back then, and rightly so. Now we keep seeing posts about "girlfriends" instead of "plates" and even users advocating for marriage. There is even a flair for LTR. I'm not going to discuss marriage, if you really don't get it by now I don't know what to tell you.

LTRs are like marriage, without the legal aspects. You won't get divorce raped, but you're still a beta. Ask yourself, why would a reasonable man ever commit to a woman? Historically, men did this in order to start a family. They provide for the woman and in return they get children and a woman who submits to them.

The problem today is, the west is not a place to start a family. You can not have children, they belong to the mother. Even if they don't get taken from you, you are not allowed to raise your kids the way you want. You can't spank them, because you risk loosing them and this pussified society will lock you up for "child abuse".

So if you do not want kids, why commit to a woman? Give me one good reason...You can fuck her and even date her if you like, without committing. A man who was swallowed the pill seeks plates, he would never restrict himself to a single woman.

Committing, in hopes of a romantic LTR, is what a weak man does. If you are dead set on having a wife and kids, then MOVE.