Reproductive success

UrsusG · 2017-06-05T08:07:11+00:00

Life itself is irrational and when you apply pure logic, you arrive at absurdities.

So don't, you won't get anywhere with your thought process.

Bottom line is: having kids fucks up your personal life, but if everyone stopped having kids, there would be no life to have, for anyone.

The good thing is, we don't all have to do the same thing, and it matters very little in the grand scheme of things.

NietzscheExplosion · 2017-06-05T17:08:33+00:00

Impossible to explain. You have a kid, You'll get it. For me, I instantly felt a lot more plugged into the future of this existence. Some people don't need that, can add value in other ways. It is the most surefire way though... have a kid. Perhaps a mutation happens that allows us to survive spaceplague or your kid invents the first sentient A.I. Maybe he just ends in the bell tower with a new record for mass murder. Roll the bones.

Humans are at a weird crossroads. It's definitely not a top priority to procreate and shouldn't be now, we have enough people(now anyway). Ideas are more important always, some people invent an entire branch of physics, only to have it made obsolete... never having had kids. Some people lose all their progeny to Auschwitz. Roll the bones.

I know this though. Never limit ideas and never limit life. Both end in death.

Need2LickMuff · 2017-06-05T08:04:45+00:00

You forgot group number 3: The ones who want kids because they feel deep down that protecting, nurturing, and loving their own kid will bring them a joy that will never be found in anything else.

theamazingswayze · 2017-06-05T20:29:03+00:00

If you could impregnate females with reckless abandon then I would consider that reproductive success. In the wild, a male has no real role in the life of his offspring. In the human race however, becoming a father is like throwing away all of your freedom and money.

Ideally, men could fuck bitches raw, skeet inside. There are no STDS. He roams the world freely, inseminating various females.

Ahh, what a dream...

JcHgvr · 2017-06-05T11:04:53+00:00

But the genetic drive to pass your genes on not only predates our modern culture in which children are indeed taking your freedom away. It predates our earliest ancestors. It's a as old as sexual reproduction itself. Few centuries of civilisation are nowhere near enough to undo what a billion years of sexual reproduction wrote in your genes.

[deleted] · 2017-06-22T07:59:50+00:00

We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.

[deleted] · 2017-08-28T19:40:22+00:00

I don't know man. My mom seemed pretty thankful that she had kids when she was dying of cancer. I guess when you are looking oblivion in the face it's nice to know that you had some purpose and some of you will live on.

thy_brokenwings · 2017-06-05T12:07:56+00:00

At the end of the day its a personal choice for now. I similarly find it hard to empathise with people that swear of having kids like the plague.

There isn't really any short or medium term benefit to having kids and as stated there are many disadvantages.

I think that's the thing the modern world and to an extent, TRP is more about what can 'I' get or what can 'I' benefit. The logic about having a kid runs counter to this its more about what can I give back, how can I make the world a better place in the future.

Yes, I guess to pass on your genes. I think the theory is that by sexual reproduction, you in a way gain a sort of immortality, a little far fetched though.

I don't know if your clone example really conforms with the argument, kinda goes to the extreme. Although many animals do reproduce by in effect killing themselves, obviously bad example we're not base driven animals, I just find it interesting.

I'm aware I won't get anything out of it directly, there is no "prize" as it were, but isn't really the point sometimes.

Final flawed thought, when your 95 (depending on medical science) sitting in a nursing home or alone in a house unable to move faster than a snail. You look back on all of your adventures and triumphs, do you think you'll regret not bringing new life into the world, will you regret that once your corpse is in the ground not only will any memory you even existed fade quickly, but nothing that you were made of or thought will likely ever exist again (unless your famous maybe).

You may disagree that's fine, we all no matter what have different backgrounds, desires and needs. I may not even end up having a kid, but to me, I think its important and I haven't seen any argument that has changed from this stance

Note -- At the 'moment' society and the economy kinda relies on people having kids and people having kids makes career advancement sometimes harder. So if one were not to have kids would it not be to one's benefit to convince everyone else especially coworkers to have kids -- random thought

NeoreactionSafe · 2017-06-05T13:37:47+00:00

While there's not much inherently wrong with having kids, there are many, many obvious disadvantages when it comes to one's own freedom in life.

I see your problem OP.

"Freedom" means you are free to determine the exact nature of Natural Law on your own without some peer pressure forcing you to think in politically correct ways.

So "Freedom" means "the ability to know Truth".

The "subjective freedom trap" is to equate freedom as being like a sort of amplified happiness.

Freedom does not equal increased happy feelings.

Once you realize that the Red Pill is about stoic objective Truth then it will make sense.

Objectively the Alpha male has many children.

However, because of Child Support and Divorce Rape the natural ways of reproduction and attraction have been subverted by the Blue Pill mythology.

The Red Pill "wakes us up" to the crimes of the Blue Pill mythology.

Children today come with the risk of modern day slavery enforced by the Family Courts.

yummyluckycharms · 2017-06-05T18:22:34+00:00

Everyone dies - only having kids ensures immortality. there are very little drawbacks to having kids if you structure your life properly - the only drawback is child support. But if you are having kids, technically you should be making money anyways....so the drawback is limited.

Even if you are raising the kid alone by yourself, there usually is someone who can take care of the kid for a night or two - my friend uses his mom, aunts, even neighbours

FlatEarthShill69 · 2017-06-05T07:22:35+00:00

You have a genetic lineage reaching back over a billion years to the first organisms to develope on the planet. It would be a shame to let your line just end. Plus if you are white then you should feel it your duty because white people arent breeding even close to replacement rates. Considering they invented and built they entire modern world it wouldnt be good for the planet to see them disappear.

Title	Reproductive success
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Date	June 5, 2017 6:35 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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