Feminists Think Sexist Men Are Sexier than "Woke" Men

Docbear64 · 2018-12-15T16:54:34+00:00

People get this wrong , Women get coddled all day , people agree with them , tell them they love them , express they are beautiful all day whether it's friends , family , music, TV, the latest awards show, the 22 guys trying to flirt with her on OKCupid , or Tinder , or whatever...

When you get that much overwhelming positivity , more positivity and loving affirmations doesn't make you feel anything. It's like a kid on a sugar high already being offered more sugar .....

What gets their attention ? What causes them to fixate and acknowledge you ? Honesty , telling them what you think and that always not being rays of sunshine and rainbow lollipops.

The one super feminist I dated stayed with my very misogynistic ass because she knew when I told her she was being fucking dumb she was being fucking dumb but when I told her I love how she looks in heels and a short skirt she knew damn well she looked good. my words weren't a tidal wave of more added fake positive bullshit. That was the attraction .

Feminist want/ need men to tell them that they are assholes sometimes because the male feminists will suck the female feminists dicks all day and they'll actually feel liek they've said and expressed nothing at all when the mans default response is " Oh yeah whatever you say ! your opinion matters more than mine !"

[deleted] · 2018-12-15T15:59:30+00:00

not surprised at all. a sexist man that's also good looking and popular is even sexier than the run of the mill sexist man.

Lavendercrimson12 · 2018-12-15T18:17:48+00:00

It seems to be that this descriptor of "woke" is an attempt to make it "Cool" to be a SJW, and shame/guilt those who don't prioritize defending anonymous masses of others in ineffective ways.

Red pilled men and particularly MGTOW are WELL aware of how much fucked up shit is going on in the world, we are 'woke' to it you might say, and we know that it often affects people of color, trans people, etc disproportionately, but we have no intention of forsaking our own mandate to survive and thrive in order to 'advocate' for others, I.E. you can't help anyone else before you help yourself. In the event of an emergency, please put on YOUR oxygen mask before helping others.

CosmicSpiral · 2018-12-15T18:55:30+00:00

The article is somewhat misleading as it only contrasts men who match the criteria of "benevolent sexism" (i.e. the traits corresponding to the Beta Bucks archetype) with those who don't meet it. Now considering how specific the definition of "benevolent sexism" is (it's both normative and descriptive), the excluded set of beliefs is going to be large by nature: it can range from rampant misogyny to indifference to soyboy wokeness. The juxtaposition is too broad to draw major conclusions without a cleaner demarcation between belief systems. I'm going to be cynical and assume this conflation obscures some relevant data points.

They found that women who saw these types of men as more attractive also saw the men as being more willing to protect and care for them, and to commit to a relationship. Interestingly though, these women weren’t love-struck fools, but had their eyes open about these men. Despite being attracted to them, and seeing them as good mates and partners, the women saw these males as being undermining and patronizing men who were more likely to place restrictions on the women.

Here's the classic push-pull between the desire for provisioning and security and genuine desire. These women only find benevolent sexism more appealing to the extent it both contrasts with the emasculated norm and offers the tantalizing possibility of resources. If they were judging men they had genuine desire for, they would rationalize away his shortcomings. Psychological experiments cannot uncover this as it is only evident in actions.

One of the experiments tested whether women’s ratings of sexist men varied depending on cues about there being more hostile men around from whom the woman might need protection. But here again, women’s attraction towards sexist men wasn’t influenced by her potential need for safety from more hostile men.

I'm not sure what the researchers expected to garner from this study without taking into account the woman's perception of the prospective partner. Theoretically, preference to due to concerns about protection need to include whether the woman believes the man is capable of protecting her. At least that should be accounted for in the methodology.

Also remember that the array of studies concludes benevolent sexism is perceived - on average - as "sexier" than the norm. In particular Gul and Kupfer fail to consider the difference between transactional and validational sex and the motivations behind engaging in either change among different population demographics. Attraction and sexiness are not synonymous within this paradigm.

RubixCubeDonut · 2018-12-15T20:57:25+00:00

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Title	Feminists Think Sexist Men Are Sexier than "Woke" Men
Author	AntiAbleism
Upvotes	110
Comments	14
Date	December 15, 2018 3:30 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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