Late Night MGTOW Thoughts on "Going Galt" and Such

yooshio · 2018-11-15T11:45:37+00:00

You're spot on.

When I became aware of the acronym MGTOW, the first image in my mind was the character John Galt and what that archetype stood for...the revolt of the producers from the moochers.

2018-11-15T10:41:37+00:00

Ayn Rand was David Rockefeller III's mistress (so I am told).

You should read The Atlas Shrugged as a textbook example of a feminist cunt's (Dagney Taggart) living out hypergamy. Textbook example.

From the rich young Chad love (the mexican or whatever) to the railway magnate - and ultimately to John Fucking Galt as she was approaching the wall (and likely hit it).

From a man's perspective the railway magnate got the best use of her pussy. But he was a simp.

BalancingVices · 2018-11-15T10:32:01+00:00

I suppose that would depend on the reasons for you going your own way.

Ayn Rand is a woman and women don't believe in unconditional, romantic love (from their end) AND this is the CORRECT way of looking at love.

This doesn't mean it is foolish to exploit those (blue-pilled men), who do believe in such Disney fantasies, just don't be that blue-pilled guy, if you value yourself.

You could also look at marriage as a business alliance (between families - that's the old way), but then you have to reject any offer you may get, because it's only bad deals for men in the modern world.

ZeroTrust · 2018-11-15T10:57:27+00:00

but the progenitor of us "going on strike" would almost certainly have mocked us for doing so

What are you basing that on? She wasn't a fan of marriage herself so why would she mock a group of men who also aren't big fans of the concept?

DWShimoda · 2018-11-15T11:06:18+00:00

My question is, is the irony of this something that's been noticed by anyone else? We're rejecting a system that's wronged us, but the progenitor of us "going on strike" would almost certainly have mocked us for doing so. Just something I wanted to write down and see if anyone had anything to add.

You're giving Ayn Rand far too much credit.*

She most certainly is NOT the "progenitor" of the concept of "going on strike" -- which in general terms is referred to as a "strike action" and even UNDER that name goes back several centuries, and of course the actual "action" of striking (refusing to work or "bend the knee") goes back to antiquity** -- nor even of the specific idea of a strike of the "men of the mind" (i.e. those who work in the industrial, science & technology fields) which is referred to by the term "capital strike" ("capital" of course in the FULL meaning of the term, NOT the current colloquial conflation of it with finance/bank credit).

As for what Rand herself would think or say -- well she had a number of good insights, wrote some interesting fiction (often tedious & pedantic, though not without merit), crafted some nice essays (though hardly "novel" if you'll forgive the multiple-entendre), etc... but in the end her own personal actual LIFE *** really just serves as additional proof of...

AWALT

* Akin to giving "The Wachowski Brothers" credit for the concept behind The Matrix; and the abstract implications of "Red Pill/Blue Pill" metaphor -- which THEY were no more the "progenitors" of (except in it's specific "modern" meme form) than George Lucas is of either "space sagas" or "sword & sorcery" -- any/all of which are simply REHASHES of things that derive from things known well back into antiquity.

** As of course is the concept of "bachelorhood"; whether monastic/religious self-control & rejection of women; or of rejecting it for other goals (pursuit of science, focus on other passions/interests, etc).

*** Among other things she was an attention whore, as well as a bit of a slut-hoe; once of her WORST "crimes" being the elevation (chiefly because he was a fawning sycophant as well as her adulterous "lover") of a second-rate idiot (Nathaniel Brandon, aka Nathan Blumenthal), and his utterly inane "self-esteem" psychobabble... which has subsequently become one of the ROOT causes (or at least a significant contributing factor) in the present malaise.

EDIT: If by any chance you are suffering from some sort of "hero worship" of Rand, I would strongly encourage you to pick up a copy of The Passion of Ayn Rand -- which is about as close to an "objective" (LOL) biography of the woman ("warts & all" as the saying goes) as is ever likely to be written -- read that, and I think you will be "cured" and able to put her in her proper place (i.e. back DOWN off some "pedestal").

betterredthenwed · 2018-11-15T13:18:41+00:00

Hey! I've often thought about the similarities between Atlas Shrugged and MGTOW. Both are about equitable relationships, and how people flourish in them. Amazon just put all three film adaptations up and I watched them last week. (Meh, as far as the films go, but I enjoy the novel).

I think mockery of MGTOW is short-sighted, close-minded, and ironic. Essentially, if the system treats in a disrespectful manner I will disengage, because I can treat myself with more respect than that.

You read The Selfish Path to Romance: How to Love with Passion and Reason? It's basically an objectivist argument for romantic love. But it stresses reason and exchange as a fuller realization of the commitment between two people.

CeleritySteam · 2018-11-15T13:24:06+00:00

It's not the expectation of unconditional love that drives MGTOW, it's the lack of any value being given in return, only taken. What was the name of that steel manufacturer? His family's relation with him is more like what thots do for men.

DarthSchadenfreude · 2018-11-15T15:23:14+00:00

Blood is thicker than water, and you are not going to find a woman to replace your Mother's love.

Unconditional love IS illogical, but that is the idea that is brainwashed into men until they believe it.

Women pretend like they believe it but they go acting according to their evolutionary imperatives anyway.

Ultimately romantic relationships are transactional, and for men in these times, marrying women simply is signing up to be wrecked by the State when the woman executes her evolutionary imperatives.

hellrete · 2018-11-15T11:30:31+00:00

You hit the bottle to hard. Get some rest and write something intelligible. Good luck with the hangover. Food and plain water is your friend.

Late Night MGTOW Thoughts on "Going Galt" and Such

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You're giving Ayn Rand far too much credit.*

AWALT

Again... AWALT.

Title	Late Night MGTOW Thoughts on "Going Galt" and Such
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