What surprised you the most about women when you "woke up"?

Docbear64 · 2018-11-12T01:37:13+00:00

How much we as men romanticize them in general. A man and woman can say the same exact thing but because a woman said it men will pay extra attention or act like she's the fucking buddha handing down pearls of knowledge by the handful even if all it translated to was " the sky is blue".

This romanticism is what allows us to be so manipulated, so confused about their behavior that we question whether our thoughts or feelings are justified, and a lot of times reduce whatever value we know we have to whatever value the woman or women we are attracted to ascribe to us .

Women are masters of the Jedi mind trick when it comes to men " These aren't the droids you're looking for" and lots of men buy whatever she says with the uttering of a phrase and a simple wave of the hand.

Pezto · 2018-11-12T01:48:10+00:00

How much they use “tingles” to decide everything.

project_mayhem_ · 2018-11-12T01:46:18+00:00

That given the option of protecting their own children from making poor choices and thus suffering or protecting their self image of their younger selves by rationalizing their own mistakes with feminist platitudes, they will virtually always choose the latter.

Unthotful · 2018-11-12T03:04:28+00:00

That they are utterly incapable of love as we understand it, it's really all just transactional. I knew that some, if not most, were like that, but realizing AWALT just blew my mind and explained every single relationship I'd ever had. I think that's the impetus for most cases of red pill rage.

RooR_16 · 2018-11-12T01:22:28+00:00

They are willing to risk a marriage for one night with one of their other crushes. I used to be super bluepilled, so this was a shock to me at first.

vega-mgtow · 2018-11-12T01:41:28+00:00

Their duplicity, the ease with which they lie, constantly and their deep disgust and contempt for the men they depend on.

GlobalAsshat · 2018-11-12T03:12:14+00:00

How cold and uncaring they actually are when confronted by a weaker man. Hollywood has the simps completely fooled into thinking women care when really they are vicious, almost sociopathic in their disdain or weak man.. they think nothing of destroying a weak man just for being weak.

Because of this, in my eyes they have no redeeming value.

2018-11-12T01:55:41+00:00

Their utter & universal amorality. That's why no one will ever say "The woman's word is her bond" and trusting females is a loser's game. They do not even trust each other because all of them consider lying to be their god-given right.

DaveC111 · 2018-11-12T02:27:54+00:00

My surprise was at how little almost every one I've ever known brought to the table. It had been a very long time since I thought about it before going MGTOW.

My ex was supposedly a pro in a certain field. Every time I tried to get her help, it was half assed, in my opinion. I went to a pro after we split (female) and in 30 minutes I got more professional help than I had from my ex in years (not sexual). Besides a very few number of women I've worked with, few are good at what they do.

My biggest surprise is that most are so self-focused they have no idea how little value they actually provide.

flee_market · 2018-11-12T03:42:07+00:00

What surprised me was how even a really intelligent and educated woman still surrenders to her base instincts at the first opportunity. My ex was a PhD student but she still attempted to exert absolute control over every second of my time and the more ground I gave the less attraction she had to me.

Just like Briffault's Law implies, the moment I stood up to her I stopped being "useful" and she disengaged.

These principles apply even to women who attempt to break the mold.

ScatteredCastles · 2018-11-12T06:03:39+00:00

PREDICTABILITY. I'd write it in bigger letters if I could. Everyone is a unique person capable of free will. But, damn, more and more, some women appear to be running off of the same script. When I read stories on MGTOW from other men, and the shit they went through with their ex-wives and family court, I was shocked. Here we have men who are total strangers to me, we never met, they have no idea what I've been though. Yet, their stories were shockingly similar to mine, even sometimes right down to the very words (and lies) coming from the mouths of women, verbatim. There's almost a textbook here waiting to be written.

Old Dude here. Never really had to contend with a woman who was nose-down in her phone all the time, obsessed with social media. But I've seen enough, and heard enough, to realize the script continues for the next generation.

SeaweedTasteBad · 2018-11-12T03:02:34+00:00

How they are the privileged class and I am disposable! Especially with the courts and benefits via taxation

chadbhava · 2018-11-12T01:11:53+00:00

that i am not attractive

Blissbynature · 2018-11-12T02:20:28+00:00

I was surprised to realize that the effect women had on me was entirely a delusion of my own mind. That there was really no power in my life, good or bad, that wasn't actually under my control the whole time. I just had to realize it and KNOW it. There was no power within women themselves or in fact within anything external to me that had power over me.

Edit: I suppose my conclusion really is that, while the outside world exists and it is important, the individual's entire state of being is completely dependent upon his internal environment.

MGTOW_Journal · 2018-11-12T01:29:55+00:00

AWALT surprised me the most. It was also the hardest part of GMOW to accept, but after a few experiments with different women, I now fully accept awalt as a fact of life.

German992 · 2018-11-12T03:08:25+00:00

How big of a 'Blue-Piller' I was prior to my Awakening. The immeasurable time and money I've wasted over the years in my attempts to woo women, and get them to like me.

But now that I'm Post Awakening, they aren't getting a dime. Plus, I'm bettering myself in so many ways now that I don't assign all of my brain power to obtaining their approval and validation.

1Badshot · 2018-11-12T04:23:22+00:00

The absolute shock, SHOCK, that I will not perform some menial service for a whiff of her pussy.

"Hey, I need a ride to the airport. Maybe we could get a drink when we get there."

"Yeah, no. There ia this new thing called Lyft. Google it."

Open mouthed stunned silence.

SologamousMonk · 2018-11-12T04:33:30+00:00

How little variability there is in their personalities and values.

Blind_sypher88 · 2018-11-12T05:00:27+00:00

That they all seem to be capable of master level Jedi Mind Tricks right out of the box.

Keeps us men on our feet.

2018-11-12T09:52:32+00:00

They'll look you in the eye and say whatever you want to hear and then stab you in the back a second later. The coldest, unemotional creature I've ever met.

Cuck-WTF · 2018-11-12T05:08:32+00:00

Their complete aversion to any form of self-maintenance. Refusing to shower. Refusing to intake proper nutrition. Refusing to follow medical guidance for health issues.

Plazmatron44 · 2018-11-12T12:16:18+00:00

Their ingratitude.

lonewolfsigma8917 · 2018-11-12T08:05:38+00:00

Everything about women man, you could never imagine the melodrama which you could guage.

2018-11-12T10:07:17+00:00

That the minge stink is not actually a good thing, but a sign she has some weird bacterial infection going on down there.

saltycaramel- · 2018-11-12T14:21:16+00:00

I wanted to add something new to this thread.

Women look for outside help as a solutions to life's problems. It's always who can I get help from. Very rarely how can I fix this. That still doesn't make sense to me. It why women look to marry money.

Schwaggaccino · 2018-11-12T15:16:00+00:00

I don't wanna blame women entirely for being the way that they are. I mean if I was a woman and I had guys flocking to me for days, I'd go for the best looking and richest guy I could find.

But the thing that strikes me most about them is their lack of loyalty. You better damn well make sure you stay on top otherwise they'll leave you at the first sign of trouble. Like rats to a sinking ship. They won't look back and they'll rationalize every single bit about how you weren't right for each other. They are there for the success but are absent for the struggles. Not every women but a good majority.

Secondly, they are good actresses. A trait they were born with or something. They master the tears so well - able to cry on cue, get 10 white knights to dash to their aid, make you look like an asshole over nothing, make you feel like you are the only guy in the world, then ditch you and not look back.

Anonymoose_wrex · 2018-11-12T14:30:10+00:00

That most women anywhere near dating age are the complete antithesis of what I was lead to believe about girls throughout my entire childhood.

The worse part was trying to determine whether I had been betrayed by my society or if society was just that ignorant of itself. It was heartbreaking to realize it's both. They don't know why they lie and betray but that is not going to stop them doing it. Because I'm a monster, apparently. Even though I have never hurt anything bigger than a baby rabbit that tried to hide under my running lawnmower, I'm evil and need to be locked up/castrated/enslaved/killed.

badaboomxx · 2018-11-12T15:14:50+00:00

That they show their true colors when they think they have you and you have no other options.

H1v3-m1nd · 2018-11-12T17:50:27+00:00

The fact that they simply don’t seem to feel love the same way men do

2018-11-12T22:06:45+00:00

AWALT... I see it in my mother, all my female friends and any random NPC's I chat to, and it makes me really sad to think of my 2 young nieces when they are adults

dakd2 · 2018-11-13T02:28:57+00:00

they are so ingenous

they are reluctant to learn to not to seek or avoid all kinds of external validation

they seem to have some kind of infant or immature concept about how the whole world 'works' in general

Title	What surprised you the most about women when you "woke up"?
Author	Pezto
Upvotes	53
Comments	47
Date	November 12, 2018 12:52 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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