Are You a Lover or a Fighter? That Depends... Is Your Goal Attracting Women, or Intimidating Men?

JamesSkepp · 2017-10-26T06:51:24+00:00

Just read this thought provoking article by Chase Amante here

What I found thought provoking about the article is that it's crossposted on other similar subs, not the first time of you doing this. Smells like traffic driving.

sadomasochrist · 2017-10-26T13:18:43+00:00

All this male archetype stuff is blue pill tripe. You either validate yourself by way of who you are, or long for a woman to validate you and provide for her.

Any of this new age woo about lovers, fighters, magicians, faggots & bulls is just that, bullshit.

Attraction is mostly physical dimorphism (lift), scent (get out there), and your social presence (frame & SMV).

That's it. Work around that, nothing more complex.

Now discard 95% of "red pill" blogs trying to pretend that what they're selling you isn't rebranded blue pill. Just because you make it edgier doesn't mean it's not blue pill.

All these blogs are doing the same thing. Trying to put an edge on old blue pill ideas and respin them as red pill. BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE.

FOR JUST SOME CLICKS ON MY ADS, OR A MONTHLY SUBSCRIPTION, I CAN GIVE YOU THE SCRIPT, NO I MEAN THE SECRET, TO A WOMAN ACTUALLY PUTTING YOUR DICK INSIDE OF HER.

But hey, turns out there isn't any money in "get in shape, don't expect much out of women, don't get married."

All the money is in comforting blue pill egos. "See, the secret is you gotta be a FIGHTER, maybe put in a touch of LOVER. Oh yeah, be the big bad family alpha you bad boy you. Yeah, you big badass, give her your check. Oh she's working too? Yeah... yeah you big badass. Go to cupcake day at the zoo. Yeah, hold frame while she goes on a girl's night out."

A hundred thousand guys went through this content here for a god damn good reason, it's solid. I've spent years trying to find a hole, haven't found one. If anything, I've found things to contribute that paint a worse picture than what is here.

And I get it. The guys that all put this stuff together got it to where it was and I'm sure they were exhausted mentally by the time they put this together. They never imagined the amount of self deception guys would go through even after it is spelled out for them blow by blow to save their blue pill dreams.

I don't think they'd ever imagine people would start rebranding blue pill concepts and have people who read this stuff start lapping it up like starving dogs drinking antifreeze.

This shit is poison. Even the title lets me know I should avoid this blog like the plague. "Girls chase." The title alone shows such a drastic misunderstanding of sexual social dynamics it's frightening.

OH SO LET'S TAKE A LOOK, SEE HOW LONG IT TAKES ME TO FIND BLUE PILL BULLSHIT HOCKED AS RED PILL. OH, TWO SECONDS.

Taking my foot off the masculinity gas somewhat freed me to not have to be a caveman in everything I did. And of course, the women... they’re much better for the guys who aren’t male caricatures. Lovers vs. fighters is something Hector delved into with last week’s “A Feminine Man, Done Right, Can be Wildly Sexy to Women.” In that article, he discussed how a certain degree of femininity in men can trump overdone masculinity when it comes to success with girls.

Get the fuck outa here.

[deleted] · 2017-10-26T04:33:34+00:00

I think you're mistaking the difference between the actual fighters to the wannabes. I know very low level MMA fighters with no fame or money who fuck some of the hottest girls.

The wannabes usually lack the capabilities to assess when it's necessary to fight, usually wracked with emotional problems which cause them to lash out and yes, end up with some nasty skanks.

And fyi, the attraction of the feminine dandy (Guys who today we would call metrosexual) is they possess an air of danger about them. Yes, they make themselves look good but they are fully prepared to have a ruck.

You can do both, learn to fight and learn how to self style

vengefully_yours · 2017-10-26T14:31:37+00:00

Attracting women? Or Intimidating Men?

Neither. Priority 1. Ensure my own survival. Do what ever needs done to stay alive.

My perspective is probably very different from this latest generation, participation trophies, everyone it's a winner, everyone is punished if a kid fights back against his bully. Y'all are fucking bubble wrapped, coddled, soft. You think you're hard, capable, able, but it's delusion created by all the positive affirmations you've been given. You're good enough, and gosh darn it, people like you.

You haven't earned it. The guys in suits doing the Barney thing, metro, those fucks are hilarious, skinny losers peacocking for pussy. The so called bad asses, shit kids most of you can't fight because you never have. I've known thousands like you over the years, over confident and belligerent in the presence of men who can end them in seconds without much effort.

This is the longest stretch of my life without someone begging for the beating of their lives, four years now. I'm getting old so I avoid anywhere that has drunken college kids wanting to look tough. They are the ones who always want to start shit with the "fat guy" that all the girls are staring at. Insecure tall guys acting tough with immense fear in their eyes, hoping desperately we don't call their bluff. I've never started it, never went looking for it, but if they started it I finished it. Talk all the shit you want, I'll be amused. Touch or attempt to hit me, and you'll regret it.

40 years of my life were combat of some sort. Including two real wars, and having my ass kicked nearly daily in school and at home. That is why my perspective is not yours. I've had to fight, not this arm flailing bullshit I see of most people, where acting tough gets called and now it's put up or shut up time. I learned how to handle a belligerent asshole without hitting him, because I had to do it faster than dancing around talking shit, they were rarely alone but I always was. Know what happens when you struggle ceaselessly against violence directed at you? You get big and terrifying. Know what happens when your life is soft, easy, minimal violence, and you're told how wonderful you are? Look in the mirror.

Chase, yeah ok. I guess it resonates with the high school crowd. Kids seeing themselves as more than they are, mental masturbation, stroking that ego.

The only time my goal was ever to intimidate anyone else was in high school wrestling, because getting into his head and making him doubt himself meant I got a faster pin. I'm not the baddest mother fucker on the planet, but I know who not to fuck with, most of you don't. Ever since and as the years have progressed, the muscle has packed on, the capabilities increased, I've become more intimidating and more attractive to girls. They can look at me and know I'm not like the others.

Priority 1 has resulted in both of these "goals" though neither were ever my goal. How do I know what you are? Because you have goals to be what I became at 16. It is earned not given, inherited, nor achieved without some nasty shit in your life. If you don't earn it, you don't fucking have it. There is no fake it until you make it in my world, it's put up or shut up.

The point of this tirade? If you read this and see yourself being one or the other, especially looking like the douche in the picture, your priorities are off. The confident man needs not prove it to anyone, he knows he can because he already has. The goal to get pussy is only for those who can't get any, the goal to be intimidating is for those who can't be and are so weak they think it will protect them.

max_peenor · 2017-10-26T14:06:28+00:00

A man with a mission doesn't give a fuck about either.

whose goals are seducing women will incorporate strategies like looking as good as possible.

Seducing women and building yourself to the point where you are manifest attractive are two different things. Again, a man on a mission will inherently be the latter. Female access is a natural consequence, not the goal.

The fighters

Like those guys that flex while looking in the mirror before putting on padded fists and only punching where the rules say you should punch? I'm neither impressed nor intimidated. Real fighters don't play games; they kill. This isn't something someone should do as a hobby. I'm totally ok with people that want to do the MMA or boxing thing and it will get you in excellent shape. Stop pretending you are a warrior. I know hundreds of men that could kill you before you even knew what happened.

bl1871 · 2017-10-26T05:02:26+00:00

Good thought process some of details are misapplied but the overall thought process is accurate. @ the risk of stating the obvious differing people are going to have different things they need to work on i.e. if your real charismatic but your a pussy your gonna need to work on that and vice a versa if your bold but your not very charming

GreenPiller · 2017-10-26T06:58:30+00:00

Unless you are a top tier fighter most of these guys lack the game and looks to pull hot women. The only good looking fighter I can think of is Floyd Mayweather and a few MMA fighters.

Title	Are You a Lover or a Fighter? That Depends... Is Your Goal Attracting Women, or Intimidating Men?
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Date	October 26, 2017 4:25 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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