How can I find myself as a white male in this world? I'm having a huge crisis of self examination right now and could use your help.

CrazyHorseInvincible · 2017-11-08T02:52:39+00:00

killakamkam · Tue Nov 7 3:49:54 2017 UTC

why identify as a white man and embrace all the negatives you outlined? instead build yourself into someone you consider great

veritas_0ne · Tue Nov 7 3:47:21 2017 UTC

Why does your race have to be so important, just wondering? I'm half Algerian and half Russian, so I look straight white, but I've never really had any of these thoughts about race even though I'm sort of alone in my racial comp.

Craft your identity without being so concerned about which tribe you're in.

Doc_redpill · Tue Nov 7 4:33:52 2017 UTC

Dude, the fact that your identity as a "white male" is so clearly defined by MSM is pretty fucking beta. Your ancestors built the Western fucking world. But news flash... Your not them, so all of their achievements and transgressions are lost on you. Go forge yourself in the fires of life. And create your own tribe and social circle. The rest of this metaphysical bullshit is just that, bullshit. Pill your head out of the colors and get your dick wet.

wawakaka · Tue Nov 7 3:59:16 2017 UTC

I don't have socrates for you but I do have BRUCE LEE

TO SURVIVE YOU MUST BE ADAPTABLE....if you are too rigid into being who you think you are, you will not survive.

Be Formless, shapeless like water. Now if you put water into a cup it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle it becomes the bottle, you put it into a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash, be water my friend.

The idea of who you are is just an idea you have created with the help of your world around you.

give you an example from the movie malcom x...he had one view himself...a black man in America...but when he travelled the world he realize his small minded view of himself was limited by his experiences...he realized there were other places on the planet where black people were not seen the way they were see in America at that time.

you are a clean slate, see what works for you...you are going through an identity crisis because you dont' fall into the typical model of who you are suppose to be. But it is up to you create the person you want to be...

like Bruce Lee said — 'Absorb what is useful, discard what is useless and add what is specifically your own'.

you don't have to be the typical white guy look at EMINEM, the Beastie Boys, and linkin park they adopted ways of other and made it their own. Being different is not bad look at jonathon davis from KORN very different and didnt' fit in but he adapted and created a life for himself.

another Bruce lee quote: The mind is like a fertile garden in which anything that is planted, flowers or weeds, will grow. STAY AWAY FROM THE TOXIC MEDIA don't let it program you to hate yourself.

there is big world out there and books, the internet can open your mind to help you develop who you can be...stay positive mate...cheers.

MattyAnon · 2017-11-07T11:34:50+00:00

This isn't a joke post or a troll thing I really am trying to find meaning in my life at this moment

No, but it IS a personal advice post. You'll likely get banned for this.

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iLLprincipLeS · Tue Nov 7 4:15:29 2017 UTC

I can't identify with other white men because I'm nothing like them.

Actually, white males are currently the most oppressed group in the world, I think you can identify with that.

I am at a loss and I really need a philosophic discussion (ala Socrates) to find out why I, a white male in 2017 should feel so fucking low about himself and his future/past.

You shouldn't. Fuck that. We built this world. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs9Ix-ah7Gs

Given all that I am...How can I find meaning in my life?

Start with this: stop watching cartoons made by soyboys (rick and morty) and start reading: Meditations by Marcus Aurelius.

Shukakun · Tue Nov 7 10:00:50 2017 UTC

You're right that tribalism is a part of more or less every human on this planet. It's just part of our biology, and we probably won't shake that habit for a long, long time, if ever.

I'm a "White heterosexual cis male" as the left would say. And needless to say, being told that that's all that matters about my identity and that that makes me evil day in and day out, I turned to the right, watched some YouTube people, had some discussions. Probably goes for a lot of people here, considering the anti-feminism aspect is part of that community.

Turns out I do sympathize with them in the way that I despise what can best be defined as "Forced charity" (high taxes, affirmative action and so on). And I do like the idea of the free market and a government with no more power than necessary. But I believe some things need to be produced and distributed through a government-like syste, and I'm not conservative in the least, so I probably fall somewhere around right-leaning centrist.

Anyway, my point is, having dipped my toes into that community I figured "Hey, the enemy of my enemy is my friend, right?", so I talked to pretty much everyone who didn't consider hating the patriarchy and the white hetero cis men the most important thing in life. That includes quite a few genuine white supremacists, and it turns out, I don't agree with them at all. They're very focused on tribalism, and even though tribalism often is a terrible thing, I think trying to get rid of it is as futile as trying to get rid of selfishness. It's just what we are.

They worry about white people becoming a minority in the future, for different reasons. Some don't want their culture to go extinct, some just want their great great grandchildren to look similar to them. Some care about "Good genetics", saying that black people have a lower average IQ and would dillute the gene pool. And sure, maybe, I wouldn't claim that a man from Japan and a man from Zimbabwe have identical height, so it seems odd to claim that they have identical IQ, there's probably some difference, negligible or not is up to people more educated and interested than me to decide.

The thing is, I don't find myself agreeing with them at all even though I understand them to an extent, because quite frankly I don't consider white people to be my tribe. I don't even consider white people born and raised in the same city as me to be my tribe. It seems like such a meaningless thing to base your group identity on.

If and when I choose to care about group identity, it'll be based on more meaningful aspects that I share with them. Does he lift? Does he like martial arts? Is he intelligent? Is he interested in psychology? Is he interested in philosophy? Does he prefer freedom and allowing people to flourish or fail over forcing absolute equality at the expense of freedom? Does he like programming?

Those are things that I actually care about and think about in my daily life. I very rarely think about or care about the fact that I am white. It just isn't something that matters.

As a side note, I think that white people wanting whites to take over the world with our high average IQ as the argument is a bit ironic, because most studies seem to indicate that Asians and Jews are slightly better than us in that aspect.

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