Women didn't want to be with me. But that is not the reason why I am MGTOW.

Quarky_Neutrino · 2019-04-28T07:46:54+00:00

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xiaoxiao12 · 2019-04-28T10:17:27+00:00

Just think back what it was like when you were a kid. When you were say, 8 years old, did you have a craving to have a girlfriend? You probably played alone or with other boys because girls were boring because they had very different interests. What is it that makes the difference in later years? Basically boobs, butt, and fakeup. The only thing that can really explain this is sexual attraction. If you take the sexual aspect out of it, there's nothing left.

What is sex and what is the purpose of it? Rubbing skin together to trigger happy chemicals and orgasm, which has the biological purpose of making babies. You can rub skin together for happy chemicals without the woman, so the only reason you need a woman is if you want to make babies.

Gibits · 2019-04-28T08:25:43+00:00

For me, a woman brought the chance to become a father. I have always wanted to be a dad. But now that I am a father, women really have nothing long term to offer. I don’t want any kids with a different woman to try and screw my kids out of their inheritance. It happens way too often.

But if you don’t want kids in the first place then yeah, women really have nothing substantial to offer.

[deleted] · 2019-04-28T12:23:02+00:00

I was the same way and it still stings me every once in a while, but you're right.

The fairytale we've been pitched by parents and media does not exist.

That has been very hard for me to get over, but eventually I will.

cleats4u · 2019-04-28T15:26:19+00:00

I was pissed that I was brain washed most of my life by women into believing...I need a woman. For what exactly? Sex? Validation? Companionship? I was told these are biological drives and part of human bonding. I may literally die without these things or in other words...I need a woman. I was told if an infant is left alone with no touching it will die. That is true...but a grown ass man won't! Women have proven they are not happy with me no matter what I do. If they are with me it's because they settled. Fuck you bitch. I don't want you with me because you settled or...I'll do...for the moment to get you pregnant. Hike your ass on somewhere else. Go destroy another man. My greatest achievement is not that I had a wife and a family (only 10% of men who marry ever get that). My greatest achievement is avoiding the scrap heap of broken men that fell for this bullshit preached to them everyday by politicians, religious leaders, academics, and oh yes...all the ladies. I am no longer pissed. I am grateful and over joyed to know women don't love me. Their sex and companionship are temporary as the seasons. Good luck to them...I'll be fine.

Friendlyfire8102 · 2019-04-28T08:02:36+00:00

Congratulations, looks like you asked, and answered correctly, the right question.

duong9006 · 2019-04-28T09:27:55+00:00

You're giving some hard-to-beat arguments here, gent.

OldRoad · 2019-04-28T17:26:21+00:00

The thing that disappointed me was that I felt like I was misled by society. So, society tells us all to build ourselves up, get a good job, and be good people, and there is this assumption that there will be a good partner that we meet -- kind of like a reward for being a good person. I don't know if anyone ever specifically tells us that, but certainly are we ever told that if we become a good person and work hard, that there will be no one for us? Or no one except someone who is not very attracted to us and/or whom we are not very attracted to and/or cheats on us and/or has lots of serious problems? I don't think we are ever told that, but that was how I was basically treated in the time that I spent in the dating world. I do think that there are some guys who can find good partners that they like, but I think those guys are often Chads.

I mean, I wasn't even expecting even 50% of the women whom I wanted to date to like me. I would have been fine with 1%; I was willing to do some searching to find such a woman. I thought that surely there was some variation in what women look for, and that I would be exactly what someone else was looking for. Well, if it's a non-zero percentage, then it's way less than 1%, based on my experiences. It's such a low number that I gave up on dating. I wasn't even that picky, but I wanted to find a woman that I was attracted to. But I was open to lots of different women, some didn't even really appear to have that much going for them. It never made any difference. It just seems like they want a Chad.

About the only way that a guy like me finds a partner, most of the time these days, would be if I dated one of the women who, on a rare occasion, hint that they are interested in me. This does happen from time to time, that I get such hints of interest. But I wanted to have some say in selecting my partner, not just agree to whatever rare woman selects me.

On top of that, reading about all the problems that often come with romantic relationships (including my own past experiences) makes me feel like it's too much of a risk, particularly if one is merely dating "whatever rare woman happens to be interested." I feel like the woman has to at least be one that I am very interested in, or the whole situation becomes especially not worth the risk. As a non-Chad, it's difficult to justify the risks in any case these days, because none of my past romantic relationships ever worked out.

I can't speak for a Chad, but for non-Chads, this is a rough dating environment these days. It's so strongly that way, that it seems like it should be a regular news story, and something that is understood by every guy in his early twenties. Yet strangely, society is so silent about this. This is rarely a theme in entertainment.

I don't blame women because we all get to decide our own preferences. However, I do blame society for letting, and even helping, so many guys to believe that the system is fair, that there is someone just right for everyone, and that they will be rewarded romantically if they build themselves up into the best person they can be (realistically).

2019-04-28T16:24:18+00:00

Some people find out about it sooner rather than later. Very few men are wise not to commit the mistakes that most men make.

kriskros18 · 2019-04-28T18:46:21+00:00

This reminded me of a sandman video where he briefly touched on finding your purpose. “Find your purpose”, I know, so cliche. The way he described how to made sense though. Think back to when you were a kid, list the top 25 things you wanted to do. Now fast forward to your death bed. How many of those things would regret not doing? Weed out the rest. Bingo! I found atleast 2-3 worth pursuing. So will you.

Good luck bros!

2019-04-28T22:48:44+00:00

Right. People will look at MGTOWs and bunch them together with incels, calling us "brainwashed". I was brainwashed by this gynocentric education system and society into believing females actually had less privilege than men (used to identify as a feminist). Looking at the statistics now, I can't believe how inverted it really is.

Suicide gap, homelessness gap, combat and workplace death gap, education gap, paternity fraud, false rape accusations, difference in healthcare and charities... it's endless. But who gives a flying fuck right? All feminists can do is go on about some bullshit "gender wage gap" which was disproven ages ago, all while ignoring the biggest issues. Hey, if it doesn't affect them it isn't their problem right? 'Please, break the glass ceiling so I can be a CEO like a man. Oh, you want to draft me and make me work in a coal mine like a man? No thanks, abolish the draft!'.

It's all fine and dandy for a man to be forced to die for his country... but when it comes around to the women now suddenly the draft is backwards and unethical. Women have had the right to vote for about a century and yet the draft still excludes them. No honey, the military is 95% rear echelon. Convenient how they'll even find excuses to shirk even the safe jobs in the military.

Elnegrogato11 · 2019-04-28T08:02:00+00:00

Could throw out incel real quick, and hell it may even be true, but that doesn't negate your reality. I'm glad that an internet stranger has the will to resist the natural urge and understand what benefits himself. Cheers bro

Title	Women didn't want to be with me. But that is not the reason why I am MGTOW.
Author	Whirrlz
Upvotes	87
Comments	15
Date	April 28, 2019 7:33 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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