This post is for MGTOW's that still engage in sex, casual relationships and exclusive relationships (NOT MARRIAGE).

I know many MGTOW's here are 'strong monks' and they like to chime in on these posts, but some men here still enjoy sex and aren't ready to hang up their gloves yet. This is because some MGTOW's are younger and still want to finish off their pussy-pounding career or some just enjoy sex and are willing to continue.

The most important factor in relationships now for men is expectation management.

Most of a man's suffering with the opposite sex is due to unrealistic expectations. Now, I didn't say 'bad or wrong' expectations, but unrealistic expectations. Your natural expectations, or desires, of fidelity, reason, honesty, loyalty, respect, etc.. are inherently incompatible in the modern dating world. In other words, they 'don't make them like they use to.' Or rather, the climate has shifted.

The vast majority of women today to not have long term relationship qualities (and if they do, marriage is never a good risk either way and should be avoided at all costs.) Most women are inundated with male attention and offers for sex. They have endless betas willing to pay for things. Endless chads willing to dick them. Endless government help. Why the hell do women want commitment? Oh, there's one reason. So they have a little bitch to pay for things while they shit on them for the 'long term.' Marriage for women is nothing more than an insurance policy and you're the one who's gonna pay out.

It's all about expectations.

Men who commit and have expectations for women are going to be decimated time and time again. Financially, psychologically, whatever.

So what kind of expectations SHOULD you have?

  • It's never exclusive.
  • When she's not in your physical presence, all bets are off what she is 'up to.'
  • She is banging other dudes, and probably lying to you about it also, despite you not caring.
  • She's probably had sex with many of her guy friends that she regularly talks to.
  • She may change her mind about her interest in you at any moment, for any reason.
  • She has no real loyalty towards you ever.

Those are just a few expectations you should hold. It's better to 'generalize negatively' than 'generalize positively.' When you generalize negatively, you cushion yourself to an inevitable reality. Positive generalizations set you up for psychological or financial destruction.

So what kind of 'relationships' should you have if you still enjoy sex?

I wouldn't recommend anything MORE than friends with benefits. Or you can pull the whole 'open relationship' card but treat it the same would you would with a friends with benefits relationship.

You would be surprised how many women are open to friends with benefits relationships if you grow some balls and state your purpose. Trust me, any women you engage with probably already has a 'couple friends with benefits.'

Additionally, a FWB relationship works incredibly better than most real relationships. Women are actually better to be around because they aren't trying to keep up a bullshit facade. Plus they usually unload their garbage on guys that are trying to 'lock them down.' Women are just generally way more fun and enjoyable to be around when you have NO expectations for them. Most of their fuckery comes from them pushing against expectations, ironically. Women generally treat FWB guys better than boyfriends / husbands. FWB also get longer and more consistent sex strangely.

So how do you set a FWB relationship with women?

  • Tell them you aren't going to be exclusive and they don't have to either. Lots of women are down with this because they want to have 'fun' also. Tell them if you feel like it, you will see other women also.
  • Never judge them on anything they do, as long as they don't cause you direct problems. If they go out and get into sketchy shit, that's none of your business. Let them be a hoe.
  • Never co-habitate. EVER.
  • Never publically announce a relationship.
  • ALWAYS use protection.

The goal of these interactions and relationships are to display that you are NOT boyfriend material. You are fuck material and that's all. You do that by being fun, encouraging her to 'do her own thing,' being non-judgement, not being a commitment seeking pussy, and having zero to no expectations. It's the only option for men these days who want organic sex.

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