My problem with MGTOW

Phantom_Spark · 2019-04-07T01:56:27+00:00

What does this video have to do with the topic?

Exceptions don't invalidate the argument. I don't care if you're god and give me god's guarantee that you have a woman for me that will never do anything bad. The problem is the legal system and how society favors women.

You want to know why men think women are an unnecessary risk?

Why don't you tell how to address the following...

Young boy is raped by a woman where she admits it and he faces little to no punishment, and he must pay child support
Recent Arizona court case awards woman the right to her ex-husbands sperm and subsequent child support against his consent
Paternity Fraud perpetrated against a loving husband who never gets the chance to have his own genetic offspring
Metoo has made people so cautious that the actor who plays superman said that it's better to talk to an ex, because women today will misunderstand anything said or done as sexual harassment
Courts side heavily with women, and women are the majority of those who file for divorce. The more education a woman has the more likely she will file for divorce. But a man is a moron for even questioning this or having a concern?

When you can lay out the method a man can use to protect himself from these and other legal issues, then you can proceed with your question. Any honest MGTOW, can admit that all women don't do this. But they all have the ability to. Why? Because the behavior is encouraged and there's no negative consequence. What exactly is being done to put women in check who do this stuff to men? NOTHING.

Why don't you explain how nothing bad that happens to men matters. Why don't you explain why men should disregard all of the things I mentioned and more? Why don't you explain why anything bad that happens to men is our fault?

Honestly, what's the problem with staying away from women romantically and sexually? I can understand an argument against pump and dump, if he's leading women on who want a serious relationship. But explain why it's so hurtful for a man to protect himself by keeping women out of his life romantically and sexually? And if that is wrong, is it also wrong for women to avoid men? Careful how you proceed. I look forward to something good.

PrinceRaj53 · 2019-04-07T01:36:28+00:00

My problem with MGTOW

Let me guess, the same question? "Why do you talk about women when you claim you are going your own way?"

I think I'll pass.

ForNowICanSee · 2019-04-07T01:42:20+00:00

Women? Loyal? BWWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. They wouldn’t know loyalty if it smacked them on their tits.

Im_Talking · 2019-04-07T01:59:18+00:00

Supposing you were going to start a business with a partner who looked really good. This partner complemented you perfectly and you are sold on a 50/50 share. Then he puts out this contract to say he can terminate the partnership at any time, he will then take 60% of all the business assets, and you will have to pay him a couple of thousand dollars a month until he finds another partnership (which could be never). Would you sign such a document?

Vaxel00 · 2019-04-07T01:37:24+00:00

You can take them all if you want.

TruthSeekingPerson · 2019-04-07T02:41:25+00:00

AWALT. Don't kid yourself.

MGTOWards · 2019-04-07T02:45:41+00:00

Why do you guys cherry pick?

It's not cherry-picking. It's statistics.

Let's say you want to go out to dinner. There are only two restaurants in your town, because that's how thought-experiments work.

One of the restaurants looks awesome, in every way! Hell, it's even got a Michelin star and everything!

Unfortunately, if you eat there, there's a 25% chance you get food poisoning. And I don't mean like, you get a bad stomach bug and you spend the night on the shitter. I mean you're in fucking hospital for a month because your ass nearly fucking DIED, food poisoning.

The second restaurant is bit more plain, maybe a bit lonely, but it's cheaper, and there is no chance of food poisoning.

Where are you gonna eat?

Me? I'm going to the cheaper, safer restaurant, even if the food is a little less good. I'm gonna listen to the 25% of Yelp reviews who talk about how the first restaurant nearly killed them, and I'm gonna go to the second one.

Is listening to those reviews cherry-picking - or is it just a sensible way of mitigating risk?

In the end, women are like that.

Are some of them okay? Yeah, probably. I say AWALT, but I will grudgingly accept that there are probably some women who are fine. There are 3.5 billion women in the world, at least some of them must be normal.

But I'm not taking the chance.

I watched my mother attack my father. I watched her sit on her lazy ass as a 'stay at home mom', while my father did most of the running around to raise me. I watched my mother commit adultery and walk out on her children. I was there when she threatened to kill my father. I watched as she STILL got half the assets of the marriage.

I've seen friends get cheated on. I've been cheated on. I've seen friends get hit by girlfriends. And I can read the news and read Reddit. I saw the story a couple days ago about the guy who found out that 4/5 of his kids aren't his; I saw stories today about people getting cheated on. I've seen enough stories of guys getting falsely accused of rape and ending up in fucking jail for it.

Let's get back to that restaurant. You'd still eat there if it was a 25% chance of a month of gut-shitting agony. What about 50%? That's the current divorce rate in the US. Am I still cherry-picking? You still gonna take that risk?

Have at it, buddy. I ain't cherry-picking shit. It's statistics. I'll take the lower-risk path that gives me more freedom and more money.

But hey. I guess I'm cherry-picking, because you found a video where Nipsey Hussle (whoever the fuck that is) is talking to his girlfriend.

Good luck, buddy.

anongogogo · 2019-04-07T02:15:59+00:00

Go get marry already start improving your life with your wife.

user_miki · 2019-04-07T02:23:55+00:00

Are you betting your life on exceptions.The math is clear.50-70 % divorces with 90 % of women started the divorce.30% of marriages are sexless.10-30%(married with children) cases of paternity fraud(men raising children not theirs).61%of child abuses done by mothers.

Another thing ,the play is what is my favorite whatever.... for the women not for the guy.That shows the guy knows about her(loves her)but what she knows about him.I want to see the opposite, what are his favorite things and her to answer.She loves herself through him.She is a narcissistic bitch.

We know already men love women but women don't love men.Women love what men are able to provide.That is a fact.

MGTOWrath · 2019-04-07T02:38:07+00:00

"Bitch, where you been at?!?!?!?"

Never seen one of those *loyal" hoes around before.

ZeroBlink · 2019-04-07T01:32:45+00:00

What about that video?

BasedBlackPilled · 2019-04-07T01:34:03+00:00

There are approximately 3.5 billion women on this fucking planet called earth. Of course there will be some exceptions. Doesn‘t change that the vast majority of women are narcissistic, manipulative, ruthless and hypergamous hypocrites tho. We will definitely not advice men to search for the needle in the fucking haystack.

hipetyhopwomenprop · 2019-04-07T01:34:43+00:00

They are chameleons. If you don't realize it then you are set up for failure. Every single man that has married thought that their wife would be different, she was the unicorn, she was special, "she luuuuuved meee!".

givenchyboy · 2019-04-07T02:39:25+00:00

I can see where you’re coming from but you first need to understand that marriage is a failed social construct that puts all of the risks involved on the men, the women have next to nothing to worry about.

Once a man is legally married, divorce becomes a sudden realization that would end in debt and possibly having him pay alimony for the rest of his life; Now add kids into the mix and you have a man who’s not only risking massive legal debt but also loosing his children and needs to pay child support, and lets not even think about the chances of him getting custody, we all know women get legal custody 80-90% of the time. Prenuptial agreements are a mans only defence when it comes to divorce, and even those aren’t honoured a lot of the time.

The second thing you need to understand is that women who have children with their husbands, don’t ever put the husbands needs first. It’s been biologically proven that the women no longer see their husbands as essential once a child is born. The man immediately takes the back seat and isn’t as much of a priority as he was. This is just simple biology, it can’t be changed.

Also, women who are wanting children will go to great lengths to have one, they were born to have offspring and thus have a drive and need to have one. A lot of women will settle or trap weak/submissive men in order to have a child while still in their prime. Some of these women will even end up marrying these men because of their submissive tendencies (btw, we call these men Blue Pilled) and have no issue filing for divorce because they know they can lure another down the road that’ll help provide for there child. These single mothers look at men as investments until their child is grown enough to the point where they can support themselves.

A women can be loyal, smart, and make you feel good, but chances are, she has an agenda that needs to be met.

DWShimoda · 2019-04-07T08:01:17+00:00

women who are actually loyal, who are actually kids, who are actually understanding smart and make your life better.

Nothing really. 'Cause first of all, the Amish really don't like the "English" talking to or about their women (and especially their young women who are actually kids, which is understandable because that's a bit "pedo" really), and second because it wouldn't do any good anyway, since I don't speak fluent Pennsylvania Dutch.

Title	My problem with MGTOW
Author	BabylonianSorcerer
Upvotes	0
Comments	59
Date	April 7, 2019 1:27 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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