Insight please

mrscene1 · 2017-12-12T02:39:49+00:00

Men build society, men improve society, men maintain society. We fight with our lives to defend it, and somehow some men before my time were paid off to give women equal say without any of the responsibility. Since then, rights have slowly tilted each year more towards women until the ones benefiting from the sacrifices of men demand every ounce of sweat for nothing in return (or worse as we are seeing, hatred and false accusations).

Given the amount of years gone by as this has worsened as it had to, women have demonstrated that the house odds with them are not in a mans favor. You will leave broke, and often if not enough to pay there is jail involved. Our children are kidnapped from us in divorce, women insist they are not equal and a brief time between her legs justifies years of alimony paychecks. We get to watch the single moms ruining our kids while they yell the battle cries they don't need no man, they are empowered, no good men, etc.

Women have destroyed the very foundations i saw as a child, and give every indication this is just getting started. I also find I am not interested in the things women are interested in, all these fake stars I have never heard of, whose claim to fame appears to be who can be the biggest whore of degradation.

Despite all of this, I do not hate women for the pain I have felt, the possessions stripped of me etc. But I sure as hell know better than to step into the casino called women ever again.

somuchluv2give · 2017-12-12T02:57:20+00:00

Woman hater reporting in. I am going on year 3 of the red pill rage phase, they tell me it should subside over time but for me it’s only intensified. I think all women are trash. I fundamentally hate what women are. They are parasites and everything they do and say is a manipulation to acquire utility and resources. I could actually accept that, if that was where the problems ended, but that’s just the tip of the ice berg. Because of hypergamy, no amount of utility and resources will ever satisfy her, which makes relationships with women an unwinnable game. The things that all girls do, on a routine basis: lie, manipulate, cheat, keep secrets, pretend to be pregnant, baby trap, divorce rape, use your kids against you etc. Etc. Etc. To do these things to someone who has loved you FOR YEARS and provided for you and supported you, I find absolutely abhorrent. This is sociopathic often even psychopathic behaviour. And it is not only commonplace but in this society it is encouraged and rewarded! It is sickening. I often wake up in the morning with an intense urge to start projectile vomiting when I realize this is real life, and not some sadistic twisted nightmare. The thing that bothers me most is that male female relations should be the most simplest natural fun easy process in the world, I’m a man and I just want to love a girl. I have somuchluv2give, but these females are totally unlovable. THEY DONT EVEN WANT TO BE LOVED! They have been poisoned by feminism and weaponized against us. Social media has been like infusing their hypergamy with cocaine. If I even find one that I like (nearly impossible) for me to have any hope of keeping her around I have to treat her like shit, and employ all sorts of pua mindtricks and manipulations, and I certainly can’t be myself. I’m a nice guy, I like doing nice things for people, it makes me feel good, but girls HATE that, they see kindness as weakness. It’s absolutely retarded. The game is rigged. The girls are broken. There’s no point in playing because you can’t win and even if you could win, why would u want to when the prize is equivalent to a box of dogshit.

Ps. this is coming from a so called Chad (6’0+, abs, get hit on etc) so for the most part I get girls giving me their best side. I’m not some incel. I think it’s super fucked up how girls use and abuse their orbiters. I’ve gotten the “behind the scenes” inside scoop from one of my exes, I know how girls really think, really talk, and what they are capable of. The worst thing you could do to someone, they will do it, and they will have no remorse. they are pure evil and nothing will ever change my mind on that.

XenoTheGreenKnight · 2017-12-12T02:58:15+00:00

I'm 22, 4 relationships engaged once. I am MGTOW: I do not question your loyalty to your children. I think you want what's best for them and have fostered a connection in line with maternal instinct, neoroanthropology and evolutionary psychology. To answer your question I do not hate women nor do the people I primarily took my knowledge from in MGTOW (huMAN and Thinking-Ape on YouTube) what you call "hating women" is the phase of MGTOW we would call the "red pill rage" this is the phase where men who have taken the red pill of scientific and historical knowledge of women as they relate to their full effects on the male mind, life span and to society realize the unfairness of nature. Sometimes this this results in demonizing women, but I stress that this is temporary. Going Your Own Way means going your own way from loving or hating Women. It is to be indifferent to them weather they be in the philosophy of traditionalism for (insert country/region) or secular feminism. We have our own goals and lives apart from reproductive motivation. For me MGTOW means 1) Becoming a psychologist that specializes in dealing with childhood abuse victims 2) Getting into classical physique body building 3) Training in Martial Arts This combined is not motivated by reproduction, but rather the holistic life style I wish to live everyday until my heart gives out at an old age. -Have a good day.

theWillpowerEngine · 2017-12-12T03:10:32+00:00

I don't hate women. I wish the cost/benefit analysis of women in the modern West made any sense for me, but it doesn't. There are even good women out there, but (a) they're hard to find, trending to impossible because women are good chameleons and men are easy to trick and (b) even a good woman is one ex-boyfriend-on-Facebook; momentarily failure of game on my part; surprise drug-problem; or mid-life-crisis away from using her unilateral power to ruin my life if I decide to try and make a go with her. No matter how good I am to her, no matter how well I do my job, something totally outside my control can just go and wreck me. Not only what I have at that moment, but anything I will have for the rest of my life.

Animals don't breed well in captivity, and the men of the West are enslaved by the State in service to a variety of causes they don't support or believe in. Any relationship I have with a woman, any love I feel for her, anything I have bound up in my children (I can't really have children, I can only rent them from their mother as long as she decides to let me) is just another hook that is used to tether me to the cart I'm expected to pull.

AntifeministMermaid · 2017-12-12T02:27:11+00:00

I'm also a woman

There are no women on the Internet.

What is "I'm also a woman" actually supposed to achieve anyway? https://i.imgur.com/NArL0KH.png

Do you really hate all women?

Some do, but noone as much as you do.

jxf15 · 2017-12-12T02:27:01+00:00

One person doesn't speak for all of mgtow. So this is my opinion. Women are the best and worst thing that can happen to us. In today's world a good loyal woman doesn't exist. Th rewards are few. The system is rigged against us. The risks are great. Risk to reward ratio favors a no investment position. Either reduce risks (fix the system) or increase the rewards (improve women). None is gonna happen any time soon. So I'm gmow, pursing my dreams until I bump into a unicorn, which will never happen imo.

throwaway152038 · 2017-12-12T02:31:09+00:00

I don't hate most women, almost none. I mostly just research them, I find it interesting how they work. What is common to them, what is more/less common in them, if that is nurture/nature, if it's cultural, etc.?

mrscene1 · 2017-12-12T02:33:05+00:00

Ignore the angry children that respond, they are still in a 'transition phase'. Hate and anger toward women are like carrying suitcases full of sand, eventually you calm down and stop and look at them and think 'why the hell am I carrying these?'. There is an inherent distrust towards women for most men here. Most have looked at the current climate from all angles and would render your efforts futile, and just accepted things as they are. Men have evolved to adapt to changing environments, that's simply what we are doing. A lot of anti-feminists say they are anti-feminists. Cool. It doesn't change anything. I don't think the amount of damage that feminism has done can be reverted in our lifetimes.

tiredofshit · 2017-12-12T08:24:50+00:00

I'm gonna have some fun with this.

You're a chick, got it. You say you're married and have kids? Great. Love your husband? Great.

Now, imagine you wake up tomorrow and find out your husband is Ted Bundy. Ted has some pretty insidious plans for you and you had no idea. Holy shit! You're devastated, feeling sick. Your whole life is a lie. You panic and call your best friend. She tells you her husband is also Ted Bundy. Wtf? This can't be happening. Hang up and try another. Omfg, all of your friends husbands are Ted Bundys. Shit's getting real now. You try to warn them. They all say the same thing, "He's not like the other Teds. Not all Teds are like that." You realize all of your ex boyfriends, your brother and even your dad are all Ted Bundy. Shit shit shit cannot unsee. You look outside and half the people are Ted fucking Bundy. You turn on the TV. The radio. Shit he's everywhere. Motherfucker is singing love songs on the radio. People are cheering him on Oprah. "Yea yea you go Ted!" WTF IS GOING ON? All you know is you don't wanna end up in the trunk of a car with a plastic bag over your head. So what do you do? You gtfo of there and don't look back because let's face it, Ted Bundy doesn't have the most stellar reputation.

This is fun and all. But when you really stop and think about it how many personality traits do women share with serial killers..?

AntifeministMermaid · 2017-12-12T02:54:09+00:00

It doesn't matter that you're anti-feminist if you aren't 100% anti-alimony. Until you women get alimony banned, you might as well fuck yourselves.

CeleritySteam · 2017-12-12T02:56:20+00:00

Women in MRA is a joke.

Let's walk that back. MRA is a joke.

Who controls rights, laws, etc? Women.

Who benefits from men's rights? Men.

Because it is sometimes rightly, sometimes wrongly viewed as a zero sum game, who do those come from? Women.

So a male MRA is asking if masser will withdraw some power over them. A female MRA is actively and personally surrendering that power.

It's inherently and innately failure prone because it goes against basic human nature. This is why MRAs and particularly female MRAs are dismissed out of hand. Chameleons. If they actually got their way it would hurt them so why would they be serious?

Now, this is the internet. The internet is for porn. And shitposts. So if you don't have a filter for your feels, and exactly 0.00% of women do then mocking dismissals will come across as hatred. Unless it was an incel which is NOT the same thing MGTOW doesn't hate you, they're indifferent or amused by you.

MadPreacher1AD · 2017-12-12T02:46:48+00:00

Did you circumcise your sons, according to the Dr. Kellogg method, when they were born? If you said yes then you care nothing about them. You did genital mutilation on them.

Oh because we dislike what you are legally allowed to do is hatred. Nothing like a good strawman argument in your first post here. /rolls eyes

No you wouldn't. You would do exactly what your lawyer would tell you to do and your husband is out in the street.

mrcandyman · 2017-12-12T02:33:55+00:00

Hate women? No. I hate the things they do, and often the way they think, but I don't hate them. I do hate feminism and what it has do e to the world. I hate the governments that have bent over backwards to the feminist leaders who are complete nut jobs and definitely don't want equality.

deadBeefCafe2014 · 2017-12-12T03:37:51+00:00

Given the throwaway account with only this post, I’m going to call you full of shit, and a troll.

If you want insight, read. Do your research.

MGTOW is born from the wretched womb of feminism. There’s no aborting this philosophy.

chadbhava · 2017-12-12T03:44:03+00:00

If you think you fight the system you dont belong here lol

Cheive · 2017-12-12T03:49:46+00:00

Good ol chameleon tactics

RedFoxOnFire · 2017-12-12T03:51:00+00:00

Just what I needed. A strong woman to fight for my rights.... sigh

Stop, just... just stop posting here. Honestly, most of us just want to be left alone to go our own way. Be a good wife, be a good mother, and don't virtue signal about it and you can be a unicorn.

(Isn't it sad that we have so few expectations, yet it's so hard to find a woman who meets them?)

Do I hate all women?

No, I don't. I just don't want to date anymore because of them. That way they're not my problem.

gods_bones · 2017-12-12T04:01:25+00:00

You're upset by this result because you expected a solution that would unite the world again. Never going to happen. All of us are the last generation of relatively "normal" people, girl. The generations that come after us, well you can already see from Generation Z who are still in school, they practically live in a zombified haze. Imagine what their kids are going to be like.

When feminism started accusing men on oppressing them, they changed the culture of gender relations forever. It has steadily been growing more and more hostile as the years go by. MGTOW was an inevitable result of those hostile gender relations. And now that women have feminism and men have MGTOW, there is only one real end result: Gender segregation.

PS: Do you run the Women Against Feminism group on Facebook? I am a member there but I don't really post much.

AntifeministMermaid · 2017-12-12T02:29:26+00:00

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AntifeministMermaid · 2017-12-12T04:37:42+00:00

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chester444 · 2017-12-12T05:50:54+00:00

Tits or GTFO.

hollybegin · 2017-12-12T08:23:49+00:00

Anger then hatred toward "a" woman at a given time for specific reasons (heartache and frustration) are a quite different deal than "hate for all women at all time".

After a few decades on this planet and probably a couple or more to go, I've come to realize hate is primarily damaging for the hater and have learned how to let go quietly. Miss I'm-such-an-empowered-wymyn-with-an-attitude act like a total bitch with me at work or on the outside, I apply my very own brand of "three strikes and you're out" rule. No tension, no fight, just smile, stay polite and avoid (that's at work) or flatly ignore and never deal with her again (that's outside). Now she decide to go too far and keep pushing, all gloves are off and she'll be at the receiving end of an healthy amount of "verbal equality", thanks to some of the fine people from this sub who provided me a great deal of informations and insights.

Gmow is, as far as I'm concerned, a "philosophical"-based mix between stoicism, cynicism, amused pessimism and peaceful fatalism (at least when it comes to wymynz) but most importantly the learning and applying on a day-by-day basis of self-mastery over biology and the constant stream of bullshit I've been fed since the beginning of my life.

Last but not least, gmow helped to shake off the need, or should I say the thirst for validation not only from wymynz but from pretty much everybody else, family, boss, customers, you name it. It's still a work in progress, probably always will, but boy does it feel great.

So, in conclusion, no hate but a firm, quiet and polite indifference...

Edit: Wow! It didn't take that long for you to remove your post, "Brooke". Why am I not even slightly surprised?

Insight please

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Title	Insight please
Author	AntifeministMermaid
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Comments	49
Date	December 12, 2017 2:22 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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