WGTOWs want the government to give them men's money so they can be "independent"

MadPreacher1AD · 2017-11-19T21:41:47+00:00

Fellas, it's time for us all to just drop out of the legal workforce and work under the table. Let the entire system collapse overnight as there aren't any women working in the jobs that keep civilization running. They've earned a supersonic trip back to the stone age.

throwaway152038 · 2017-11-19T22:55:55+00:00

I support it. Why not. Cancel all other handouts that exist, cancel alimony, cancel child support. UBI for all.

Halyard102 · 2017-11-20T00:00:45+00:00

God dammit UBI is the single most retarded idea to come out of this fucking site.

"everyone should not have to work in order to survive, so they should be subsidized by the government" is their argument.

Ok, even though I chose my career because it brings me a great deal of satisfaction and pride and allows me to life the lifestyle I want, let's assume for a minute that you're right and we're all wagecucks and should be living that neet life.

Constant expenses for everyone are food, rent/mortgage, health insurance, clothing, and at this point phone/internet is probably necessary evil.

Food budgets vary by state, country, and number of meals/week, but let's assume based on my credit statement that I spend roughly $500/month on food. This includes groceries, going out every couple days, and the odd gas station splurge. Kids and really old people will need less, but call that an average.

Most people in this day and age are either renters in an apartment or townhome or mortgaged to a house or condo. The median American home in 2016 cost $188,500, and let's assume that you're paying off a 30-year mortgage at 4%, rounding up. That means your monthly mortgage payment is around $900, assuming you have a fixed rate and the housing market doesn't explode again. Apartment rents are also in this ballpark.

The average annual deductible for health insurance is around $4700, and most people spend between $500 and $1700 on clothes annually, so let's call it an even $1200.

According to Verizon, the average wireless bill totals around $150 a month, depending on data usage and upgrade status.

So let's do the math. $500/month, $900/month, $4700/year, $1200/year, and $150/month.

$24,500 a year per person.

"Ok", they say, "I made more than that last year, so if it was subsidized then I could put that money to better use and pursue my passions or investment opportunities!"

But if it's truly universal basic income, that means everyone gets it. There are approximately 320,000,000 US Citizens. 24500 x 320000000 is 7,840,000,000,000. Almost eight TRILLION dollars. In contrast, the U.S. GDP per annum is about $19T. The entire U.S. Federal Government received $3.3T gross tax revenue.

So where the fuck is the money going to come from?

"Tax the rich!" the feeble minded liberals say. Ok. So how much is enough? Where do you draw the line and say "You don't get UBI because you're making enough already" and "You deserve free money!" Where do you say "You need to give the government" (the oh-so-virtuous U.S. Federal Gov't) the majority of your income-or else!"

I have yet to hear a coherent answer. Considering the litany of taxes imposed on top earners (Income, Property, Capital Gains, etc.) and the fact that something like 3% of the U.S. Pop. pays like 95% of the total income revenue, does it make sense to tax them even more?

This is to say nothing about moving money offshore or setting up blind trusts, or the unfathomable inflation that will occur when they realize that the populi will have almost $30k in disposable income and mark up prices accordingly.

2017-11-19T22:23:59+00:00

"mentally ill women..." Isn't that all of them?

2017-11-19T23:51:31+00:00

'strong independent woman' = paid for by taxation from men LOL this is beyond ridiculous, we are paying for children to do whatever they want without any accountability.

DonaldTrumpsWaifu · 2017-11-20T02:11:45+00:00

UBI's are actually good for MGTOW's who don't believe in working to support a gynocentric society. Take money from those that would see you support them instead.

jaceishere · 2017-11-20T00:21:24+00:00

how are people this fucking stupid. What a fucked up view

MadPreacher1AD · 2017-11-20T02:58:06+00:00

Isn't this coming close to communism?

scotFree66 · 2017-11-19T23:27:38+00:00

Typically no thought at all to who is going to pay for it?

Alternative-MGTOW · 2017-11-20T02:18:31+00:00

it wont be mens money that funds this. It will be funded by cancelling SNAP and HUD/USDA programs paid for by white knight manginas and their career wives"
UBI is great as long as men are not discriminated from it
Im all for women getting UBI as long as dating is felonized. I mean you even heard it "frees them from mens tyranny"
Good riddance to a fucking slave system where men are forced to work while women fuck around with rapist scum and we are left paying back our student loans and THEIRS!!

scaur · 2017-11-20T00:03:16+00:00

Victim Republic

ManIsWalking · 2017-11-20T02:24:18+00:00

"Were strong, independent women going our own way, with the help of men that will rob other men and give us the men's money!"

mgtownigga · 2017-11-20T06:33:19+00:00

lol it's called working for a living

Jcart105 · 2017-11-20T08:56:51+00:00

Everyone should search up the expansion of central government in conjunction with increased female voting.

Long story short, when women are a part of the voting pool, your society will "progress" to more fiscally communistic and socially progressive paradigms — a recipe for disaster.

deuslucis · 2017-11-19T21:37:47+00:00

http://archive.is/zFAGc

Edit: replaced reddit link with archive link

I-am-the-lul · 2017-11-20T09:34:48+00:00

If a UBI was introduced, everyone in that country will get it, the UBI only needs to be just enough to allow that person a subsistence lifestyle, if they want more money, they will have to find a job which will have a flat tax rate of 50% while the UBI itself remains tax-free.

It sounds great in theory but would it work in real life.

2017-11-20T14:48:53+00:00

I went to that place...this is nothing.

Its a bottomless Pit of Horror. Devoid of Logic and Reason, Insanity took a reign at this Hellhole they call "WGTOW".

Waterboarding is bullshit, you wanna Torture a Terrorist? Let him read that Forum 24/7....he will tell you everything in a couple hours.

Title	WGTOWs want the government to give them men's money so they can be "independent"
Author	deuslucis
Upvotes	103
Comments	69
Date	November 19, 2017 9:34 PM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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