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all that disgust is societal conditioning my dude. Millions of men, if not billions, have utilized prostitues since time immemorial. The rich and famous use them incessantly. What im trying to say is you are experiencing poverty morality and you need to just say fuck it. Sex is sex.
/r/askTRP04/03/19 10:00 PM
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dude that's honestly the best sign in the world. A girl that shuts down other guys when they talk shit or flirt with her is ideal. You WANT a girl that does that.
/r/askTRP04/03/19 09:51 PM
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dude nothing is impossible. You guys have made up your own goddamn minds so whatever. No one is saying it will be easy, but if he puts in work, he can and will find someone. Dunno what to tell you.
/r/askTRP04/03/19 09:22 PM
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it's such a nonsense argument. Like no shit food and water are required for base survival, but most places in the world are above that. Sex and companionship is in the hiearchy of needs and any psychologist worth his salt will say that it's healthier to have a sex and/or romantic life. Loneliness literally kills people and results in shorter life spans lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 02:29 AM
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it's a figure of speech. Everyone has some sort of issue or issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 01:25 AM
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why are we talking like 'damaged' or 'mental illness' means theyre a functional retard is the real question. Unless were talking autism and/or low iq, this is a really stupid argument on op's end.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 01:07 AM
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damaged or mentally unwell =/ dumb. One of the smartest girls I ever met was BPD , full blown
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 01:05 AM
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why you have to personally attack me like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 01:05 AM
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dude youre delusional if you think damaged women won't leave you. Theyre more likely to leave you or cheat on you. If youre well adjusted and well put together, and find someone that is at least halfway sane, you stand better odds.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 01:01 AM
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lol where do you live where do you live where women smoke a lot? And no, I dont mean 1-2 years off and on in uni, but actually smoke smoke
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 12:59 AM
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as a professional 'going for damaged women' type of guy, I sort of agree. However, I think the guys that go for damaged women are often damaged themselves, or have few options and all of a sudden there is this pretty girl thats into them, so theyre like welp ill overlook these red flags. Those are teh two common scenarios : most healthy, well adjusted men arent going for damaged women. Ive seen exceptions but it's usually with women that are a slow burn in their crazy, where it takes some time f…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/19 12:58 AM
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yeah you should take heed. If a girl likes you, it's unlikely shell write you off for one bad sexy time. Just ignore the ones that do and dont let it kill your self esteem
/r/askTRP04/03/19 12:14 AM
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take it from someone that can relate : you just gotta do it. Will you suck? Probably. Will most girls care? Not really. Some might write you off immediately depending on how bad you were, while others will give you more chances. The more you do it, the better you get, and eventually you wont have to worry about it. There's no way around it, it's gonna probably suck, but you gotta just do it man. if youre lucky, youll get into the swing of it quickly and not embarrass yourself as much as you thin…
/r/askTRP04/03/19 12:12 AM
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yeah but if you read TRP and think looks dont matter, you're severely missing something. There's a reason we emphasize looks and style and all that shit. It matters, it's not the only thing, but it matters. The truth is that most guys are not so ugly that getting fit, cultivating style, gaining status, and learning game wont allow them to find quality partners. Are there some people that got fucking FUCKED by the genetic lottery? Sure, but most guys are just average and could become a much bette…
/r/askTRP03/03/19 11:25 PM
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and most guys are not so spectacular in the looks department but can find a girl or girls they find attractive. Don't compare yourself to others, it's useless
/r/askTRP03/03/19 11:21 PM
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how many people are 5ft1 indian janitors. Even then, that guy could do better for himself if he put in some work and had value. It's not gonna be as easy as it is for an attractive dude, but who ever fucking said it was ?
/r/askTRP03/03/19 11:21 PM
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look man, no one on TRP is saying that looks dont matter. You have to work with what you got though. For most guys, getting fit, garnering some form of status, and learning how to talk to women gets them results, at least better and more results than they had prior. You can sit around whining or get out there and do some shit. Everyone has a cross to bear, and most of you guys are not bearing that heavy of crosses so stop focusing on things you cant change and go do something
/r/askTRP03/03/19 11:18 PM
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people need to fucking realize that 3300 to an executive is peanuts. costly addiction my ass. People that make sub 40 k a year easily spend this much on drugs and/or booze if that's what theyre into
/r/MGTOW03/03/19 06:25 PM
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lol it's like that chris rock bit where he's like 'that man is not a friend, he WILL betray you'
/r/askTRP03/03/19 04:38 AM
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you are. She lives too far and i'm assuming you're both fairly young. It won't last, you'd be much happier focusing on girls that you can see more frequently and that behave in a way that's more acceptable
/r/askTRP03/03/19 04:37 AM
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yeah, this is clearly not LTR material lol.
/r/askTRP03/03/19 04:36 AM
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how old are you guys? You say five years, but then you say she's at first year of univeristy and drinking like this. That really would explain a lot
/r/askTRP03/03/19 04:23 AM
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such a thing as 'sunk cost fallacy'. If it's a relationship that's worth keeping, and she's a girl that truly cares about you, she'll curb that shit asap. If she doesnt, bounce
/r/askTRP03/03/19 04:18 AM
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a girl that drinks that much and to that level is not LTR material, so either she kicks the habit or severely moderates it or you next her. Period. No fucking compromising on this man lol
/r/askTRP03/03/19 04:17 AM
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wtf are you talking about lol? I honestly don't know what you're trying to convey in both comments
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 01:24 AM
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I dunno man, a lot of guys have lots of friends but suck with women rofl.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 11:31 PM
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if you dont mind me asking, how old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 11:26 PM
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Yeah, im just saying there's this strawman where every guy has horrendously insane standards and I think that's BS. Most guys are willing to settle down for their relative looks /lifes match if she's pleasant and gives them the time of day. The problem is that this dynamic is all fucked up and out of sync , mainly due to the behavior of modern women in the SMP
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 11:19 PM
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no offense man, but if you've been with at least a hundred women, you're an 'alpha' whether you think it or not. The alpha defintion is pretty fluid, people make the mistake in thinking it has to be a chiseled man with a v bod, but it can take many forms
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 11:15 PM
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the terminology is cringe as fuck but useful to explain these concepts. If you're even half way socially well adjusted, you've seen chads do their things and betas do their thing lol. Alphas are 'shared' as well, at least for a while. High value men in highschool-late 20s have absolute power in the dating market, and women give it to them
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 11:14 PM
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I haven't even seen this play out in reality, tbqh. I see and know a LOT of men that have women who are objectively worse looking than them, and usually they aren't all that in personality or income either. When there is a notable looks disparity between a man and a woman, where the woman is demonstrably hotter, people notice because it's exceptional. People comment. Not so much the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 11:12 PM
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most people settle and have settled throughout time. The problem today is that we teach women that they're the best regardless of their actual qualities, in looks, skills, personality, or otherwise. So you have this situation where a bunch of women are holding out til the last minute whilst depreciating in assets, and a bunch of frustrated men feeling disposable and worthless as they get lead on, cheated on, and dumped throughout their 20s and even 30s. Back in the day, people usually found some…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 11:07 PM
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I agree and disagree. I think a hot guy can get away with a lot more for a longer period than an average or god forbid, below average guy. Ive konwn some attractive guys that suck in bed but still have women chasing them, ie they put their needs first, cum too fast, etc. I hear the women complaining about it but they still continually chase, at least for a time. When a guy is just ok in other aspects of life, if he fucks up in sex, he's basically done lol. Unless she REalLY likes him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 10:54 PM
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Yeah, I agree on social stigma, but that's just poverty morality honestly. The rich and famous are fucking prostitutes all the damn time. I never understood the 'wahhh I want a woman to desire me'. It's not hard to get a thot into you enough for a bang or two, not sure why that's important. Oh boy, got to ride on the town bike and she CHOSE me. lol whatever. In the current climate, I honest to god don't see much of a difference between fucking a slut and fucking a hooker. You dont even need that…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 05:11 PM
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first time or so might go terribly, but you gotta do it at some point. If it gets too awkward or you cant stay hard or something goes awry just blame it on being tired, booze, or even admit it's just nerves. When I was inexperienced, most girls werent a bitch about it. You might not retain all of them before youre experienced, but just stick it in and get that experience because theres no other way around the damn thing
/r/askTRP28/02/19 06:10 AM
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then why are there so many escort services? Why are there a lot of voluntary sex workers in legal countries?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 05:38 AM
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I'm not going to try and convince you, go there and find out yourself. That's the only way youll know what im talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 05:15 AM
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right, but it would be if it was legalized and social stigma lessened is the entire point. Of course it isnt readily available whent he whole thing is pushed underground
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 05:11 AM
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dude are you seriously comparing the situation in the US with legalized countries? You can find attractive prostitutes within minutes at a red light district in a legal country, for a far cheaper cost than escorts are here. Of course middle class men dont want to pick up hookers on the street corner, that's the reason it's not popular here. Couple that with legal danger and social stigma and it's a rich man's game for hte most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 05:06 AM
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well, you're talking about in a city where it's illegal, which is in a country where it's mostly illegal everywhere and social stigma against it is high. I've been to countries where it's legal and the social stigma isnt' as strong and I assure you' there are a lot of attractive prostitutes engaging in it of their own volition. Furthermore, if you're willing to spend decent cash in the US, there are plenty of amazingly hot escorts across a wide age range. It's just expensive and underground, whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 04:42 AM
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I feel like a lot of guys arent really inhibiting much if they have one quality partner that meets their needs. It seems women have more issue with it than guys IME. There aer always those horndog dudes out there but for every one of those there are several dudes that really just want a girl to settle down with
/r/askTRP28/02/19 03:11 AM
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I dont think everyone disagrees that it's impossible, just that it's HARD and getting harder by the day. An increasing amount of women are just not viable as long term partners and that's the culture of our society. You ARE rolling the dice, so best to be wary in whatever it is you do with women
/r/askTRP28/02/19 03:09 AM
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your life as a man most definitely hangs in the balance if you get marreid to a chick and/or have kids. Dont kid yourself.
/r/askTRP28/02/19 02:38 AM
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well either way, op is a classist fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 09:53 PM
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I love how he thinks that all bartenders, waitresses, and 'ultra low end admin positoin women' are all whores. Dude has a lack of experience in life, clearly. Plenty of whores with bachelors or advanced degrees. Some of the biggest whores I knew were UMC
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 08:58 PM
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ive known a lot of UMC sluts and a lot of lower class women who actually had traditional values. Dude is being a clown right now
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 08:55 PM
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these people miss the entire point : prostitution is unpopular because its illegal and unregulated. The highest status men in society regularly use escorts. There woudln't be a market for expensive ass escorts if high value men across all kinds of sectors weretn using them. Social stigma, cost, and legality are the only reason prostitution is avoided by men. used to be the most common way to get your rocks off for thousands of years, for peasants and nobles alike
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 07:42 PM
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I don't get why it takes this long to get the heart of hte matter in these topics. Make prosistution legal and remove the social stigma and men will be using them like whoa. Prostitution being this big ordeal is relatively recent
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 07:40 PM
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the only reason prostitution is avoided is due to the risks involved. Remove the legal issues, lower the cost, and stop the social shaming and you'd see guys using prostitutes again.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 07:40 PM
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rape was a sexual strategy before civilization, but that goes without saying. And prostitution isn't really an option depending on where you are, at least if you are concerned with legality and cost. Social shaming of the practice has also gone a long way in keeping men away from it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 07:38 PM
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this has always been my issue. The social contract is a real thing and without it, you provide little incentive for men to fully invest in women and society. This results in a lot of problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 07:16 PM
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I think it's generally a bad thing to have a large amount of maladjusted men, whatever the reasons. A common attribute of men that join radicalized groups, gangs, or engage in other anti social behaviors and violence is a lack of community and/or sexual frustration. I don't think I need to spell out the problems that this has caused society, past and present. So yeah, considering sex is on the hiearchy of needs and most people are not good at living a normal life without it, i'd say society woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 07:10 PM
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I do as well, but i'd say a decent percentage engage in toxic ass behaviors at one point or another. A good portion of men are going to have to deal with this, and they aren't even allowed to talk about it or critcize it without being made fun of or labeled
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 11:38 PM
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the amount of nasty shit that is celebrated and normalized in popular culture against men is absurd. The fact that you can't speak out on any of it without people actin like youre a misogynist is disgustin
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 11:33 PM
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this is such bullshit. Women can openly talk about men as a group and generalize all day without any real consequences. Half of the time theyre celebrated and men evne prostrate themselves in agreement. Stop lying lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 10:32 PM
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i've never heard someone call a woman a misanrist in real life. I dont teven think most people konw about the term. The greasypole is either being disingenuous or hangs out in some really off the wall circles
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 10:31 PM
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how often are women ever labeled misandrists in real life? I can't even think of one instance of someone even SAYING that in my life outside of manosphere spaces. Hell i'd go as far as to say most people dont' even know the term misandry exists at this point. Everyone knows misogyny though
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 10:30 PM
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this is the issue. I can't criticize and be upset about how female behaviors because reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 10:28 PM
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this question is loaded and subjective because misogyny isn't defined in the same way by everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 10:27 PM
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I honestly disagree on the 'wanting to protect that nugget thing'. The people that truly care about that usually care because of religious beliefs or personal convictions, and not because they are being driven by hormones. I know of girls that are entirely guiltless about abortoin and some have done it more than once. The pill isn't that big a deal either, all things said and done. I don't think anyone says that there are no conequences for women, but you're talking about temporary inconvenience…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 09:46 PM
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that jewelry commercial is something elsel ol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 07:03 AM
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eh most men dont give a shit about other men man. Most men will abandon if not outright betray other men for women or something else tangible. End of the day it's only you
/r/MGTOW26/02/19 06:57 AM
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depends on quality of options though
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 05:23 AM
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we all been there lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 03:33 AM
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high value men don't really do this because they have options. Lower value men have less options and often will fail in their other endeavor (s) and then miss the validation. When I was operating under a scarcity reality/mindset, I would do that but it was becasue I didnt have options. When I have options, and can get more, I don't pine for that other girl I wasn't into to begin with. Trust me, if I withdraw from a girl and play hot and cold, I dont give enough of a fuck to begin with. I still c…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 03:21 AM
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eh, you're simpllifying what im saying. ive had women try to get back into my life after ive moved on but the context here is that these behaviors result in women suddenly being turned on. She was still in my life and shit, but I started allowing myself to detach a bit and then she did a 180 once she caught wind of my pipe laying. I don't think you can say the same happens the other way around. Guys dont suddenly go 'omg stacy fucked five guys, I better compete for HER now' lol. It's a dynamic t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/19 12:29 AM
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The problem with blue pill is largely survivor bias. Will some people find a suitable mate with similar values early on in life and stick with them? Of course. This is becoming more rare by the day though. The values of our current culture are at ends with monogamous arrangements, let alone marriage. I don't know what the answer is but the rise of groups like TRP and other manosphere minded organizations is in reaction to unprecedented changes we are witnessing now. This is what blue pill likes …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 06:33 PM
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even most trpers dont say 'I hate women' lol. Sh'es more extremist than anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 05:58 PM
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1 month is a long time to get another job, any job. Do side jobs if you have to. Whilst you do all of that, keep applying to real jobs and see what you can get in the long term. As for losing focus, it happens, but you need to find the will power to pick it back up and keep yourself from failing. Failing in school sucks and is hard to rebound from, trust me, ive been there. Just get it done. If there is some psychological issue you're not telling us, go to a therapist. Universities almost always…
/r/askTRP22/02/19 05:51 PM
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women have problems in the dating world, but relative to men, the problems seem trivial. It's all relative but i think you'd have to be willfully ignorant to truly believe the problems a woman face are equal to the bullshit men deal with
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 05:49 PM
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eh, so the idea that love is conditional bothers you? How do you think WE feel? 'I love you....if you don't lose your job', ' I love you....if you don't become 'weak' or become lss of a rock', 'I love you...til I find something better', and the list goes on and on and on Women initiate 70 plus percent of divorces. It's more likely that your man truly loves you and will stay with you than the opposite is for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 05:37 PM
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Well, the issue with dating nowadays is it's not romantic. It's not romance. Romance isn't fucking other women and then having a girl be into you because she knows your prolific. Romance isn't texting and communicating in a way that is calculated. Romance is definitely not being aloof. So you can't win in a romantic sex because the way to win is wholly un romantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 05:34 PM
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fucked up but true. I think the moment that finally broke the camel's back for me was when a girl I loved and had oneitis for was playing hot and cold all the time, and after I said 'fuck it' and started banging other people/her friends, she suddenly did a 180 and acted like a total slut around me and was practically begging for my cock. Previously, she had told me that she was conservative about sex and relationships despite her political leanings and wanted ot take it slow. Even said that sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 05:33 PM
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I wouldnt say that I lost interest but rather I was FORCED to change how I view relationships and romance. And this was not only due to reading the pills, but from direct experience. I don't think i'll ever truly feel comfortable in the direction our society is headed and how women behave, but it's what it is and lashing out against it or engaging in behavior that is no conducive to success is futile. Thankfully, I gave up on marriage and kids a long time ago
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 05:26 PM
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very true. The trick is faking it before you have that. I'd say that that the best way to display abundance before you actually have it is to keep busy yourself. Work full time, work out at the gym, and cultivate other hobbies that truly take up time. Do this while maintaining and growing a social life with others and it will come naturally. If you're busy enough, you won't be able to be needy, assuming you actually value the things youre doing (which you should). edit: The biggest mistake noobs…
/r/askTRP22/02/19 04:42 PM
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I'm not so sure they were lies, but rather, outdated prescriptions based on times past. I really don't think our grandparents and even parents have a firm grasp on how things have changed with technology and culture. You started to see some cracks in the framework post 1960s era, but it wasn't like THIS. Almost everyone I know has or has had grandparents that stuck together til the end, and almost everyone I know has families that did not separate (id say maybe 25 percent had parents that truly …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 04:38 PM
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you did the right thing. In the future, next her ass earlier
/r/askTRP22/02/19 02:14 AM
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just laugh it off with some quick banter, or if you REALLY fucked up say i'm tired and misread the situation, my bad. But the thing is you can't really fuck it up unless you are being retarded. The two date model works because you make a good impression on the first date and go whelp, gotta go do this, it was nice meeting ya lets do this again. on the second date, be playful and flirty when setting it up and invite her to your place for a movie or netflix. No girl is coming back to your place fo…
/r/askTRP22/02/19 02:04 AM
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IME higher smv girls are often easier than uglier girls
/r/askTRP22/02/19 02:01 AM
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it doesn't sound like it was the 'first sight of disinterest'. He had been hanging with her for a minute and she was rejecting kino and giving off negative vibes. I agree that it's premature if your goal is sex, because some of these girls WILL put out even if they play hot and cold, but I can't fault a guy that just doesn't want ot deal with games. Sex isn't so important that you should deal with bullshit in order to get it. He could have had to spend another 4-6 hours in her shit company befor…
/r/askTRP22/02/19 01:04 AM
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precisely. It's a risk and it's also fucking annoying. All of us have wasted time with women who played hard to get, why waste any more of your time? I've gone on first dates where the girl is all over me and clearly interested. I don't have time to deal with half ass bullshit
/r/askTRP22/02/19 01:00 AM
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yep, for every girl that does this, there's a girl that will be enthusiastic as fuck about you.
/r/askTRP22/02/19 12:59 AM
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yeah, that's where i'm at with shit like this. On the one hand, he might have not played it off as coolly as he could have, and his implemenation of 'kino' might be a tad off. On the other hand, if the girl was super into him, she's going to be receptive. If OP knows what he wants and what he's willing to tolerate, why waste time with someone like this? Bitches are expendable, always
/r/askTRP22/02/19 12:58 AM
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Honestly, if I had to highlight the three most important aspects of game, i'd say IDGAF (within reason), abundance mentality, and outcome independence. I think abundance is the biggest, especially if it's based in reality, because i've seen girls do a total 180 on me when they found out i'm fucking other girls, especially if those girls are their friends. Crazy shit, you have to really experience it yourself to believe it. I mean shit, i've had girls that I was completely beta with and lost in o…
/r/askTRP22/02/19 12:55 AM
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yeah, having proper abundance mentality is really the only way to deal with this bullshit. I dunno about you guys, but i've wasted enough time 'taking it slow' and getting nowhere or it taking way too long to bother with that shit anymore. My time is important and if i'm on a date and a girl isn't warmly receptive to my advances and reciprocal, i'm out. I don't have time to play games and deal with the potential mental anguish. It's also unattractive and ineffectual to do so. And for the autists…
/r/askTRP22/02/19 12:53 AM
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but the big takeaway is pretty simple : a lot of puas focus on the one date close, and what ends up happening is that they often spend upwards of 5-8 hours per first successful first date. As often discussed here, a lot of women have that 'im not a slut' mentality and fucking on the first date can be problematic for the mental image they have created for themselves and how they want others to perceive them. Therefore, it often takes a good while to wear these types of girls down on a first date,…
/r/askTRP22/02/19 12:49 AM
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I wish I remembered. I'll look for it again because I wanna re read it tbh
/r/askTRP22/02/19 12:44 AM
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yep,and while we can't be sure this was the outcome in this instance, the op clearly wasn't getting the reception he wanted out of her so why bother? Good abundance mentality overall
/r/askTRP22/02/19 12:44 AM
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yeah, and he's displaying a good amount of abundance mentality here. I feel like most guys are afraid to be short and just dip
/r/askTRP22/02/19 12:43 AM
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in retrospect, he probably should have avoided anything like that if kino wasn't working either.
/r/askTRP22/02/19 12:17 AM
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yeah, kind of what I was worried about. I've also found that regardless of AWALT tendencies overall, a lot of women vary quite a bit when it comes to dating and preferences in touching. Some girls will be down for intense touching within the first few minutes, while others take some time to warm up. honestly, i think the latter can be preferable because the former is almost never good for anything but easy sex but that's besides the point. This is why I always preferred the two date plan before …
/r/askTRP22/02/19 12:16 AM
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not enough detail to really get a clear read on this one. You mention she's not receptive to kino but you could have been applying too much, too fast or in an otherwise awkward manner. This would definitely color the rest of the date negatively. But overall? if a woman is swatting your arm off her shoulder and not being warmly receptive to your advances, it's probably best to just abandon ship and salvage the rest of your day/night. I can't tell you if or how you fucked up, but chances are it do…
/r/askTRP22/02/19 12:12 AM
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ill agree with the fat part, but weird? man, a lot of chicks are fucking weird or have some sort of issue. I've banged plenty of attractive women and most of them have issues, with several to the point of needing psychaitric help and even hopspitalization. Rofl girls be crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/19 07:16 PM
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I know a guy that was raped at an early age by a babysitter and it has resulted in a lot of issues, past and present. It's crazy because he'd have no trouble engaging in relationships and sex if it wasnt for that one incident
/r/MGTOW21/02/19 04:08 AM
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yeah, honestly sometimes being nice to a lower class thot can work better than trp because theyre so taken aback by it. Awalt still applies im just saying what gest you an in
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 04:41 AM
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they can def get laid, but their standards have to be realistic. Even ugly guys hit gold every so often though
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 04:24 AM
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lol is it though? I know of a lot of fuckers that were born into money and were able to secure cushy, high paying jobs that don't require much effort on their end.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 04:15 PM
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why are you resorting to 'unemployed bum'. I know of many guys that support women who still work but make FAR less than they do. There's a big difference between unemployed fucking bum and someone that makes 1/3 of what you make
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 04:11 PM
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yeah, especially if you have a lack of romantic success, past and present. It's totally fine to say you've had relationships with women even if they were just flings or friendships. Dat perception goes a long way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 10:06 PM
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You want a woman to like you? Sleep around with others and have her know about it, either directly or inadvertently. It's probably the most sobering thing i've ever experienced. A girl will go from hot/cold and game playing to straight up begging for your cock if she finds out you're dicking down her friends or other women. Even the mere perception of it can result in a 180 in her behavior. It sucks, and I know this 'game playing' isn't what a lot of us men want, but if you apply it, I PROMISE y…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 10:02 PM
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so it's bad because the guy is more mature and has resources to expend on said woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 01:57 AM
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seriously. Even when there are work get togethers, it's usually a group activity. Everytime ive spent one on one time with a girl ive fucked her lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 09:40 PM
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I think so. Anyone with any measure of power should take precautions, especially in the METOO era. I don't agree with pence on many things, but I cannot blame him for wanting to be cautious in the current climate. You don't actually have to commit an act of harrassment and assault to get accused of it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 09:38 PM
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this sounds like it's from a place of extreme privilege tbh, and your lack of empathy is astounding. I know people that have had both parents die at an early age who have NOTHING. I know of people that have no father figure and their mother is an abusive piece of shit. I know of people that have horrendous siblings that are in and out of jail, abusive, or just absent. Count your blessings because you lack perspective here
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 09:37 PM
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not everyone has a good family though
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 09:34 PM
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yeah, the trust that hot guy that acts like a douche bag deserves. ugh, why do you all pretend that this isn't the case for a lot of women? Are you all sheltered or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 04:02 AM
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I disagree with this becasue i've seen extremely low value women get more matches on tinder and other apps than higher quality men got in a set time period. I just don't see this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 03:58 AM
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feminine thinking is why there is so much consumerism and corporatist bullshit. Feminine thinking is also why tehre are overbloated bureacracies that take away funding from departments that should be receiving it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 03:48 AM
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this is the most retarded thing ive read in a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 03:47 AM
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how can your world view not be shattered if you're an alcoholic with a cheating whore of a wife?
/r/MGTOW02/02/19 01:28 PM
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that's fucking insane. I hate when people minimize this shit because it's definitely real
/r/MGTOW02/02/19 11:20 AM
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you should have realized that from the get go man. Women will often vilify or slander their past exes, saying all sorts of shit. Very common thing
/r/askTRP01/02/19 10:46 PM
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man I cannot tell you how many times a girl said 'i never did this before' or 'i dont do this for anyone else' or 'you have the biggest dick ive seen' or some other bullshit. Stop deluding yourself. The only time it was legitimate was when this girl literally couldnt suck a cock worth a damn, but we were both younger then
/r/askTRP01/02/19 10:45 PM
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as Russ said in true detecitve 'people incapable of guilt usually do have a good time'
/r/askTRP01/02/19 10:41 PM
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if you got oneitis over a girl that cheated on her boyfriend and for all intents and purposes never obfuscated who she was, you're the idiot bro. Sorry. edit: also, you guys need to stop buying into the 'i never did this before tee hee'. Girls have done it before lol, the chances that you were her first of any sex act are pretty slim to none, especially after a certain age. They always say that shit
/r/askTRP01/02/19 10:39 PM
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this argument falls flat for a myriad of reasons, and ill tell you why. I agree that there is no council of women, and that a lot of women wont even identify with the crazy feminists and sjw types. The source of contention is when people go 'not all feminists!', but then you see prominent, self proclaimed feminists spouting this shit to a WIDE audience. We need to stop pretending this is relegated to tinder when you have huge celebrities and actual prominent organizations and figures involved wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 08:00 PM
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it's also deflecting from the fact that it's not just some random twitter thots and bloggers, because we see this being trotted out by influential figures in the media, whether that's in the actual news/ads or celebrities that have a huge following. Like always, bloops are twisting the narrative to suit their argument, and creating a strawman in the process. IF we were talking about negative messaging about women in any way, shape, or form, they'd sing a different tune
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 07:58 PM
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For me, it's the hypocrisy of it coupled with the fact that such language can have a deleterious effect on boys, especially when you look at rates of suicide and educational hurdles boys are facing in the current era. Shaming messaging has an effect, whether it's on twitter or in popular media, and there's just no good reason for it. More insidiously though, I think it actually leads to more disenfranchised men who get twisted and commit heinous acts and/or become radicalized for whatever shit g…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 07:56 PM
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I don't disagree with the sentiment, and that it's a good thing to heed, but it's not a beautiful thing to me. Like I said, people often use this quote to justify nasty shit, at least that's been my experience. It's reality, but I dont' find any beauty in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 11:28 AM
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lol can't even explain how it's 'beautiful'. All is fair in love and war! is gassing the enemy fair? pillaging and raping a town, is that fair? Is cheating fair? Is fucking over your friends because you're selfish fair? Is it ok to sleep with step siblings or god forbid, actual family members? The quote is meaningless bullshit and is used to justify shitty behavior man. It's not beautiful, you can't even explain to me how it is
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 11:22 AM
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why are you changing the goal posts to 'ABS LOL'. You initially stated that the trend to have low body fat to accentuate muscles is a new thing in terms of attraction when it's not. By necessity, most people throughout time had a low body fat, high muscle look. Whether or not they had abs is besides the goddamn point. You're the one bringing up abs out of nowhere
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 11:20 AM
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you're bringing up something wholly different to what he's talking about. Being low fat and muscular was the norm for a lot of people throughout time and that is a fact, it's depicted in artwork and records since the ancient periods. Fitness was a celebrated thing. Bringing up body building is asinine because body building is its own thing and yes, that is a relatively new development. Showcasing strength athletes is really weird because that kind of lifting has never been about aesthetic-puttin…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 11:17 AM
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yeah those ancient greek statues definitely depict men that have high body fat and low musculature. Oh and don't forget all the quotes by people like socrates that recommend that you realize your full potential as a man in fitness.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 11:15 AM
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no one 'deserves' women, and sometimes people are just lucky in their genetics lol. It's not even taht fucking complex. You're just making a strawman, no on in red pill is condemning chads and the statement 'sexual strategy is amoral' is constantly trotted out. This is like every bloop topic on here, just a complete misrepresentation of trp principles which results in you attacking a strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 11:09 AM
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which is precisely what red pill advocates
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 11:07 AM
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what's 'beautiful' about it? The only people I see trot out that BS are people that want to justify shitty behavior and revert to base instincts and desires. It's always the cheaters that use that quote, or people that dick down their friends for a piece of pussy. That quote isn't beautiful, it's basic, self serving, and asinine.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 11:05 AM
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that phrase is so annoying and I wholly agree - if all's fair in love and war, virtually anything can be justified. Furthermore, we should aspire to be above our basest instincts, not beholden to them. I find it really funny how people will use the 'it's natural' argument to justify shitty behaviors that really have no purpose in the current year, yet scoff when you point out that killing and rape are natural actions in the animal world. I mean technically speaking, rape is a valid sexual strate…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 11:04 AM
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I usually end up fucking my friends or their friends. i also shit where I eat. I really don't see any other avenues seeing as how I could never do that well on tinder and the like. It has its ups and downs, you could say lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 09:00 AM
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real talk, i've never cultivated any fuckng back ups. I'll have some female friends, even past flames, but it's not like i've ever been like 'oh these are my back ups'. That whole mentality would destroy your feelings/love from the outset, and it's why relationships are fucking shit now. You have to see and appreciate what's in front of you, not be looking out for some grass is greener bullshit. How can you love like that?
/r/MGTOW29/01/19 01:48 AM
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I don't even get why this is a problem. As long as you're fucking them within a reasonable time frame, what's the difference? One night stands usually suck becasue alcohol and/or drugs are involved. You're not more of a man if you get one night stands more than the next guy, who fucking cares
/r/askTRP28/01/19 07:07 AM
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yeah that's fine. I'm just saying that sometimes you can still hit her up ON OCCASION. I definitely don't think he should be overly persistent, but sometimes a reasonable amount of effort pays huge dividends. It's hard to say and he defintiely shoudn't focus on her, i just don't think sending something funny from time to time and seeing if she bites is a bad strategy. Sometimes building a rapport at a slow and steady rate pays big dividends down the line.
/r/askTRP28/01/19 02:35 AM
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I dunno, I kind of agree with dude. You don't HAVE to be an orbiter, but hitting her up a few times over the course of a month could lead to something. Just because she didn't jump your bones that instant doesn't mean she woudln't consider it later. I've def fucked girls that werent attracted to me AT ALL when we first met. I mean when I was bigger than I am now and these girls were out of my league. Had I just given up, I woudn't have gotten some decent lays. But I never became an orbiter, that…
/r/askTRP25/01/19 08:42 AM
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lol right? it's never a woman's fault
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/01/19 08:21 AM
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Man, I know guys that have married or started up new relationships into their 50s and 60s. If being alone is what you're worried about, you can rest assured that there's always single people out there. Game's different but that goes without saying
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 05:56 AM
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The former every single time. Especially since you denoted that shell never be attracted to you as much as the previous boyfriend (s). What's the point of a relationship like that other than stability?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 05:54 AM
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it was a pretty exhaustive analysis of their data, a google search will find it pretty quickly. They analyse their data a lot, it's quite interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 08:55 AM
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yeah I mean, there are outliers and it certainly doesn't apply to every woman. But at the end of the day, an in demand man who can display that he's in demand is always going to attract women at a greater rate than the average guy who doesn't have abundance. It sucks, I dont like it, but ive seen it work (usually inadvertantly). The times that i've had multiple girls rotating out of my soft harems (i hate to term it that, but it was that),in you'd see a marked increase of interest from past and …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 10:32 PM
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this kind of logic is so stupid. You can see the world and still engage in a healthy relationship. No amount of cock is going to replace a good connection with a quality man. dumb bitches man
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/01/19 11:01 AM
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there's nothing worse than an old ex or fling that fucked you over deciding to contact you. It's annoying as fuck and borderline malicious. You decided to leave or you did something that made me leave, don't try to come back months or years after the fact. not how this all works
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/01/19 11:00 AM
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I don't have an interest in the majority of girls when it comes to personality, but I def have an interest in whats between their legs if ya know what i mean
/r/askTRP23/01/19 10:42 AM
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I would bet anything guy knows about OP. As someone that has been the other guy, it's rare that we dont know rofl
/r/askTRP23/01/19 10:37 AM
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other guy probably doesn't give a shit. Ghost her immediately and move on. It's not gonna be easy, but don't let this cunt have any closure, for she deserves none.
/r/askTRP23/01/19 10:36 AM
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yeah and my examples are from women iN MY liFE, not internet strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 05:19 AM
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because if they didnt', they'd have nothing to attack. They also tend to overly focus on the more extreme posts over the majority of prevailing opinion there. I also find it convenient that they ignore the strategies women employ in dating, but whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 05:16 AM
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honestly, besides the more extremist/outlandish posts, what tactics in trp are wrong? Abundance mentality is a smart thing to have and it applies to more than just dating. Aloofness works surprisingly well. Being a self-reliant, more stoic like figure is way more attractive than an overly emotional idiot. Dread game is a little extreme but it fucking works and it works WELL. Out come independence is a smart thing to employ in dating and otherwise. the list goes on and on, but I really don't see …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 05:15 AM
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What's even funnier is i've talked about trp type principles to women before and they definitely agree. Hell, a lot of women have tried to convince me of trp principles of their own volition. Some of the most real trp type shit ive heard in my life was from girl friends of mine. Some examples off the top of my head : 'remember, youre the prize' (friend of mine literally told me this,), 'you want to know the best way to make that girl attracted to you? fuck other girls and have her know about it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 05:12 AM
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Seriously. It's not as if telling her is gonna change a goddamn thing. If that's what she wants or she's too stupid to see the writing on the wall to avoid it, she reaps what she sows. It's not my job to create drama and interfere in that, especially when my efforts will go in vain.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 05:08 AM
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it's hilarious to me because my sisters are fairly conservative (sexually at least), and I never even had to step in. They vetted guys, made them wait for sex, and they'e now married with kids here or on the way. I wonder if bloops find it sad that this isn't usually the case and people have to literally tell women that the guys they are dating, who are obviously shit heads, are shit heads. Sometimes I feel like more of a feminist than bloops in that I respect women if they deserve respect and h…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 05:05 AM
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woulndt even work. Girls date fucking idiots all the time and people tell them and yet nothing changes. Usually the guy has to literally move on and ghost her in order for the situation to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 05:02 AM
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yeah, if she asks me what the score is and I know his game, i'll tell her what the reality is, but i'm not gonna lecture because she's a fucking adult. If she can't figure out her shit, it's not on me to step in. and honestly, what can I do anyways? Force her to like the nice, stable guy with a budding career?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 05:01 AM
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I'm pretty indifferent because it's her life, her decisions. I hate these loaded questions because you're forcing us to pretend that anyone utilizing TRP principles is only spinning plates, or utilizing it in the most mischievous of ways. Nowadays, women are spinning plates all the time, so it's funny that it's only bad when men do it. Even if we assume the worst kind of trper, she still holds all the power in the dating scene. She can choose to select for guys that dont' fit into that mold. If …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 05:00 AM
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uh, first of all, I don't think of my lovers as inhuman, and if anything, TRP helped me understand their actions and lose the anger over the infidelity, lying, and abject manipulation. So what is your suggestion in the face of these experiences? Should i continue to do the same thing I was always doing, which resulted in intense heartbreak, confustion or anger? Wouldn't it be wiser to treat women in a way that is conducive to my and their happiness, that maintains attraction? I'm sorry if it off…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 12:04 AM
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I mean, I understand all of that, but it seems that ANY emotional support is considered too much to a lot of women. I've personally seen this play out. There is overbearing and not taking care of your shit, but it's not unreasonable to expect some level of support through hard times from the person you love, support, and protect. If that cannot be provided, women are largely vehicles for sex and not much else. If all a woman can provide is sex, relationships are a pretty funny thing
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 12:01 AM
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I was quoting what you said to make a point. I don't think that you should be a bad person persay, but the narrow definition of what constitutes a 'good and responsible' man in society is often to the detriment of the personal interests of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 11:24 AM
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And you're severely misinterpreting what I meant with my post. I didn't mean to say that it's ok to be a manipulative piece of shit and to use people mercilessly or any such thing. What i'm getting at is being that selfless, self-sacrificial man is a futile endeavor and it's good to have strict boundaries and perhaps look out for yourself rather than the greater whole. That doesn't mean you have to actively go out of your way and ruin lives or anything. It's fucking unfair to expect men to keep …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 11:15 AM
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I disagree that applying TRP principles requires you to be a shitty person. You can employ them in a way that is shitty, but you don't have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 11:12 AM
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yeah I agree with your entire post, even saved it. Sorry if it came across as if I didn't
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 11:03 AM
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I don't really ignore these men, and I personally know a great deal of them. With that said, I also see these marriages fall apart, i also see the infidelity that occurs, and the overall bitterness that starts out silent and behind the scenes but eventually festers and boils over. At any rate, i'm not denying that women end up matching with a guy for stabiliy at some point, but when were talking about overall reproductive success and relatoinship satisfaction, I think people that unknowingly or …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 10:51 AM
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It DOES interfere with attraction. The idea that opening up and having these 'serious dialogues' affects attraction is hardly exclusive to TRP. Ive seen that in ask men, i've seen that with my friends and acquantacnes, and ive seen that in my very own relationships. It's fine to open up to women on that level if you're gonna be friends, but it's WAY to risky to just talk to them in that way if you want more, or if you want ot retain attraction. Your results may vary, but I disagree that the way …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 10:49 AM
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TRP is the only reason i've been able to retain my sanity. I don't even apply it evenly or consistently, but it helps me deal with the inevitable betrayals and bullshit that is rife in the dating scene. At this point, i've decided that I cannot fully change into a trp archetype, but I can use the frameework to understand and accept the BS that gets thrown at me. I will say that as time wears on, and the burnings continue, i'm starting to inadvertantly apply trp principles because I just don't gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 10:42 AM
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yeah, and don get me wrong, I have the utmost respect for people that take the high road, regardless of the costs. It's just unrealistic to expect most to do so. Not everyone can be a saint lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 10:38 AM
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yeah, at the end of the day, men will follow a path that works, regardless of the actions and behaviors required. If women selected heavily for different traits, men would shift their ways of thinking and you'd see an abrupt change in actions/behavior. Women drive the entire ship lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 10:37 AM
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I think the issue is that the returns for being a 'good, responsible, positive influence on your environment' are diminishing. A lot of men have tried to be that and realize they're taken for granted, manipulated, and treated like hot garbage for their efforts. There isn't a well defined social contract in this post-modern society of ours, so you're seeing a lot of men becoming disillusioned and straying away from that role. The woman above posted about how men are selfless and self-sacrificial …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 10:34 AM
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I hear this all the time but it falls flat in reality. Women are good in that role for children and pets, but they falter when it comes to providing that to their man. She even stated that a man is a 'rock'.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 10:28 AM
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sex lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 10:28 AM
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This kind of shit just rings hollow to me for a myriad of reasons. While I agree that self-reliance is an important thing to cultivate, it's delusional to think that most people are able to live a satisfying and fulfilling life without depending on anyone. I'd be willing to bet very few people are truly independent in that they don't depend on anyone. We are social animals and networks are insanely important to mental health, relationships, job oppurtunities, the list goes on and on. Part of bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 10:26 AM
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even when they didnt fight in the gruesome and terrible wars, they still engaged in the farmwork. The idea that women werent workign alongside men is false
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 08:57 AM
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in ancient rome, women had a decent amount of control over the dowry though. they also could divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 08:57 AM
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yeah, can't argue with that. The arrogance of the left in thinking they're immune to it is problematic. It amuses me that they're being played liek fiddles yet that these subversive actors are only exploiting and manipulating the other side
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 08:22 AM
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I keep hearing this but I have yet to see the side effects being anything but negative. Name one thing that has benefited men due to feminism? All I see is a bunch of women breaking free of gender roles while men are still beholden to theirs. It's an issue of wanting your cake and eating it too. The contradictions are endless
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 08:21 AM
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yet you still saw ginormous dowries gifted to a woman, even in ancient times, and she had more power with that than your modern sensibilities probably have lead you to believe. Look, im not saying that women didn't face hurdles throughout time, but the vast majority of the populace in any nation pre-industrial era was fucked. Sex didnt matter. Most of the conversations we have about workplace fairness and equal employment weren't even possible until we modernized, and lo and behold, things chang…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 08:18 AM
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yeah, I mean I don't have a problem with equality for women or even the past iterations of feminsim, but i'm definitely against the bullshit we see today. I take issue with the third wave bollocks, and I also take issue with the idea that we can't have an egalitarian philosophy over a feminist one. Were well past the point that it needs to be labelled 'feminism', and the feminism that is being trotted out is often at ends with men, regardless of what its proponents say to the contrary
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 05:24 AM
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honestly, i've seen kind of the opposite in that regard. I've seen a lot of beta like dudes take in toxic women and overlook their faults and past n count out of virtue and being 'a feminist', and they often have a hell of a time. They also lack the options to clearly filter out the bad. Meanwhile, guys that are more masculine and less feminist in nature tend to have an abundance of options and end up being able to properly separate the wheat from the chaff later in life. That's what ive seen an…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 04:57 AM
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ive met some scary stalker women in my time
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 04:15 AM
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Eh, I rarely see a correlation between a guy's feminist stance and success with women. Maybe there is a small subset of extremist ideologues that cannot be dated unless the guy is completely emasculated and on board, but I rarely find those types to be pleasant and/or that attractive. I've personally fucked a lot of girls that claim to be feminists, one even had a fucking radio show, and i'm hardly a feminist supporter and i'm pretty open about it. I'm not a misogynist, but i'm wholly against fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 03:57 AM
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or if they do, it's in passing or for social media likes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 03:55 AM
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at this point in time, where are women 'not equal' in society? At least in the US and Europe? I definitely understand some of the past iterations of feminism, but i'm at a loss when it comes to third wave
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 03:52 AM
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it seems obvious to us but you have to understand that people are literally being indoctrinated from childhood onwards. It's also verboten to criticize feminism publicly in fear of backlash, which can result in a loss of friends, reputation, and even tank careers. SO yeah, in that kind of climate, it's not hard to believe that the obfuscation and rhetoric is working
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 03:39 AM
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the reason that many women opt out of housewife life is because it's not economically viable. If you look at wealthy households, where the man makes a significant amount of income (think top ten percent and upwards), you actaully see a lot of women content with being homemakers. There was an article in the ny times that snidely criticized such women, even though they said they were content when interviewed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 03:35 AM
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furthermore, women toiled in the fields as much as men. The average peasant was toiling in the fields, sex be damned. The idea that women werent engaging in farm work or hunter-gatherer type roles is completely off the mark. Women even fucking hunted. you can argue that women tended to get the shaft at the upper echelons of society throughout time, but so few were a part of those classes that it really is a silly point to bring up. As soon as we started to modernize, women slowly but surely gain…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 03:34 AM
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I think men and women have largely been subserviant to the wealthy and elite for centuries. Upward mobility was not a thing for the vast majority of people, men and women, throughout time. Male and female peasants worked all day, on the farm or otherwise. I guess you could make the case that specialized classes like Merchants were primarily male based, but so few were a part of that class that it's almost a moot point. It's also worth noting that women could wield considerable power in the court…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 03:31 AM
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yeah, that's another stupid explanation they give when confronted with reality. Usually its because women are oppressed so they need a little extra umph, which completely negates the idea of a purely egalitarian philosophy. It's all utter nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 03:27 AM
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it's funny how they'll trot that out when a man questions the usefulness of feminism in addressing male issues, yet when a guy wants to raise concerns around a particular male issue, feminists will often respond that it's not the job of feminism to fix male issues. It's the most self-serving, convenient ideology-ie utter fucking bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 03:26 AM
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yeah, they have massive cognitive dissonance. In one breath they'll exclaim it's not the job of feminism to fix or alleviate men's problems, but in the next they'll say it's for everyone and benefits everyone, regardless of gender. It's the most ridiculous bullshit rhetoric and they redefine when it's convenient to do so
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 03:24 AM
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Believe me, if a guy is attractive enough, shell let A LOT slide.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/01/19 10:48 AM
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I love how she contradicts herself in her own points. 'It's good that men approach us cautiously and overthink everything to the point of inertia, but gosh darnit I like to be approached!' or 'going dutch is sillly, the person asking the other person out should pay!' - lol, which basically means that men will pay 99.9 percent of the time seeing as how we do all the approaching. Oh and let's not forget her cognitive dissonace where she admits to being fucking BRAINWASHED (her terms, not mine), an…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/01/19 10:47 AM
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I just can't feel bad for women that put out too quickly and then bitch bout their lack of retention. A slow but steady escalation would weed out teh guys that just want you for sex. Women can change this at ANY time.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/01/19 10:02 AM
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it's crazy just how obvious this is and yet it's impossible for these types to grasp. Women are doing better across every conceivable QOL metric, and they're still focusing on a small subset of men and acting as though they're oppressed. like goddamn, step outside of your narrow bubble and realize that most people cannot even remotely relate to the 1 fucking percent.
/r/MGTOW21/01/19 08:10 AM
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yeah and interesting hobby like that isn't such a bad usage imho. That's what instagram should be used for. I have no problem seeing cool posts about something im interested in
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 12:37 AM
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average man? not too much. But there are plenty of men that get a lot of attention, but you gotta be interesting as fuck or a chad
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 12:36 AM
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People will argue against your points, but the evidence is all there and continuously mounting. The fact of that matter is that rates of narcissm, depression, anxiety, adhd etc. are rising at a rapid rate, and it's been observed that it often coincides with level of social media usage. I've been trying to limit my usage of social media because I can see the deleterious effects on my own mind and the minds of others in my life. I mean christ, even the people that designed these apps and websites …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 12:29 AM
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yeah, you need to have a lot of cog dissonance to think that being labeled a slut is anywhere near as bad as being labeled a virgin, especially when were talking about men here. Calling a guy a virgin is one of the biggest insults people muster up when they want to emasculate someone, this should be patently obvious to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 12:24 AM
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lol all this convoluted bullshit. Or you could just not move in with someone and have different apartments/properties. Wtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 07:27 AM
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you do realize a bunch of states legislatures have a cohabitation/common law marriage stipulation. So basically, if you live with someone long enough, you are essentially married by law
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 07:06 AM
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I personally see a lot of sentiments from trp in real life A LOT. A lot of guys are getting burned out here and they discuss it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 07:04 AM
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I couldnt disagree more. Gang violence accounts for the majority of murders in this country on an annual basis. Trivializing the issue by saying 'lol rival gangsters' is also pretty base when you consider that most of those 'rival gangsters' are human beings, often kids. These gangs utterly ruin the neigborhoods they inhabit, coercing and grooming the younger generations to peddle drugs and murder each other. 'Non-combatatants' in these neigborhoods suffer not only risk of death and injury, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 01:29 AM
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It's also not something that is actively pushed by many mainstream people/groups. Masculinity is being actively demonized and a lot of messaging is dishonest
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 05:29 PM
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well, thse women are ALSO victims of toxic masculinity, it's so insidious that it results in them practicing it!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 05:27 PM
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lol it's something isnt it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 05:25 PM
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I really liked the bit where Patrice says 'Make yourself lovable, IM lovable'. He basically calls out how women rely on having a vagina over cultivating a personality and attractive qualities, thinking that's enough for a man when it comes to a relationship. 'Pussy drives their whole ship'. He has a good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 05:25 PM
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Isn't the average IQ barely 100? Most people don't have 100 plus Iqs lol, so yeah, imma still worry about the medias effect on overall society
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 05:14 PM
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It's always bizarre that blue types will discount the impact the media has on culture. It's demonstrably true that it has a real impact, as evidenced by a plethora of studies on the matter over time, but somehow it doesnt have an effect all of a sudden when it's convenient. Advertising/social media companies literally hire psychologists to their development teams
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 05:13 PM
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Furthermore, we actively encourage and CELEBRATE toxic female behavior that is often detrimental to the actual women in question.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 05:01 PM
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lol that's real fresh. Who were the worst shooters of the last couple of decades? VTech is an asian guy. Pulse night club? Homophobic, radical islamic dude. DC snipers? Black. But for argument's sake, lets look at other notable white shooters. Eliot rodgers? Upper middle class, hardly a red neck. Dylan Roof? Well, ya might have a point here. Vegas shooter? Upper middle class white dude with no history of anything. Dark Knight shooter? Hardly a red neck. My point is that you can't just make up sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 04:48 PM
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Ask yourself : In what communities is this most prevalent? It's definitely alien behavior to me as a person that grew up middle class
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 04:42 PM
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that's a bizarre opinion because the majority of shootings and murders are committed on a daily basis by street gangs and cartels, MS 13 being one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 04:31 PM
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Wait, what? The threat they post is exaggerated? Where is it exaggerated? It's certainly not exaggerated in the areas they operate and to the people directly affected.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 04:30 PM
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This can be true, but from what ive seen, HR takes complains about sexual harassment and other related issues pretty seriously. the laws surrounding that can cost them a ton of money
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 04:20 PM
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yeah it's such a bizarre way of looking at the world. I'll likely never see the inside of a board room in my career, and i've NEVER seen that kind of behavior at any conference i've been too. And the 'boys will be boys' thing is a lower class problem, i've never seen that type of attitude expressed in middle-upper class. If I acted that way at a BBQ, A lot of people, men and women, would have stepped in and broke that the fuck up. That's a completely alien thing to me. The only instance I can re…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 04:18 PM
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so what's our answer for this? continued vilification and bullying? Because that's all that's going on and somehow I highly doubt that's gonna fix it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 12:29 AM
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...which is definitely because of other women. You cant' have a hook up culture and extol the virtues of being a slut without this scenario. It's a classic have your cake and eat it too. I sympathize with these women though ,because it sucks but it's definitely not men driving this - women can choose to not put out
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 12:28 AM
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that sentiment can manfiest it self in ugly ways over time, and it affects the lives of probably more people than one lone incel mentally ill fuckhead ever will. No one is minimizing elliot rodgers, but blaming all his mental problems on inceldom is missing the real point
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 11:38 PM
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yeah because shit that is openly and insanely misandrist doesnt trend on all social media. 'waste his time' etc. I mean shit, you have 'influencers' and celebs literally proclaiming that all men are shit or worse and there are no repercussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 11:37 PM
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yep. the game required and length of time drastically decreases with increased attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 11:22 PM
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besides eliot rodger, who else has murdered people due to their virgin status? i can't think of one guy. Furthermore, it was clear that eliot rodgers had mental issues that were beyond his virginity status
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 11:16 PM
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lol rage of the virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 11:16 PM
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yeah the big difference is the fact that a women can loudly proclaim she's a slut and not risk any social backlash. Not being able to secure some high quality men is the only real problem, but a LOT of guys are willing ot ignore her n-count. Most girls are not willing ot overlook a guys virgin status.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 11:14 PM
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i've almost never heard of a guy doing this. I can think of a few examples of this , but it was always from guys that were either autistic or total fucking asshats with no redeemable qualities. It's more an issue of guys feeling like theyre being taken for a ride or friendzoned than prude shaming. Guys tend to be wary when it's like 3 weeks to a month and she's still not pulling the trigger on sex. It's the nature of our current hook up culture
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 11:11 PM
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are they pitied though? People use incel and virgin as insults quite frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 11:09 PM
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Unless youre in a very conservative area, i'd say virgins have it a lot worse. They are shamed in the media, and you can make fun of a guy for being a virgin in a major city but if you talk shit about a girl that is a slut, be prepared to get flack for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 10:49 PM
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yeah I mean all things equal, it's always preferable to look the best you can. Not denying that. For me, it's also an issue of effort. If you put in the work to have a good build and dress well, you don't have to work as hard for it. Time is important, and you definitely want to minimize the amount of time needed to close
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 10:48 PM
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youd be surprised what you can pull with game. i mean looks matter, but there's a spectrum and you have to be really fucking low for it to be a huge detriment as a guy, assuming you control for other variables governing attraction. Ive actually found that hotter girls are easier to pull that mid range ones, tbqh
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 10:42 PM
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in the vast majority of cases, how are women NOT to blame for single motherhood? 'My body my choice', but only when convenient, eh? and my god, the problem with the ad wasn't because it celebrated courage, it was that it generalized the entire gender of men and took a patronizing tone. It wasn't celebrating, it was lecturing, and from the get go assumed that men are engaging in destructive behaviors as a goddamn hive mind. My god, you had a group of men mindlessly chanting 'boys will be boys' as…
/r/MGTOW16/01/19 08:44 PM
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and when men do this, they more often lose support than not. It's not exactly a rewarded behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 08:32 PM
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not sure what the fuck the point of that rebuttal even was
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 08:31 PM
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yeah, it's kind of hard to believe, mostly because of the range she's talking about. If it's true, she's probably fucked in the head. I've met girls that had like a 30 plus kill count by 22-23, and they often had issues lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 11:53 AM
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sleeping with 12 partners a year from 14-20 is fucking insane. I don't even care how liberal you are, that is indicative of a problem. It's more about what that probably says about her than the actual amount of partners. I've never met a chick that racked up numbers that high that didn't have issues. FTR, Im not all that picky about partner count, but then again, i'm also a forever bachelor and never want children. I bet my tune would change if i was the type to settle down and want stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 11:51 AM
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theyre supposed to, but most people report AT MOST 20 percent of cash tips. It's hard ot impossible for IRS to truly track that, and it'd take a huge audit of the restaurant that would span months and months.
/r/MGTOW16/01/19 01:51 AM
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lol ok
/r/askTRP16/01/19 01:50 AM
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id rather jerk off than compromise my standards on that front.
/r/askTRP13/01/19 01:13 AM
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depending on where you live and where you work, waitressing pays more than enough to fund that lifestyle. You can make pretty decent money, especially as an attractive chick
/r/MGTOW12/01/19 11:30 PM
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lol i knew someone like this and didn't realize what was going on til later
/r/MGTOW12/01/19 11:29 PM
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Every single time.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/01/19 02:32 PM
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women are so solipsistic that they cannot even understand this on a basic level. Dating has only gotten harder for men with the advent of tinder and other BS, and it requires us to become HARD people, fuck boys even, if were to succeed and have our needs met. Most of us would much rather have the alternative scenario
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/01/19 02:25 PM
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that's some next level cuckery lol. Youre just TOO good for all those guys! lets just ignore the common denominator here and assume she's the Hildegard of modern times. Christ. edit: I mean, just imagine a guy talking like this and what the responses would be like. Unbelievable
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/01/19 02:16 PM
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seriously. bartenders dress that way on purpose and it gets them attention and tips. Why they conveniently pretend that's not the case is ridiculous. Girls that don't like that lifestyle tend to not stay in it very long, if at all. My sisters never fucking worked as a bartender or cocktail waitress or dancer, that much is certain
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/01/19 02:14 PM
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she almost approaches self awareness but the hamster is strong. What creates that chemistry? oh riiiight.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/01/19 02:00 PM
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it's fucking dehumanizing, tbqh. They phrase it as if they're talking about felonious thugs vs. a nice guy with a modest income, but we know better.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/01/19 01:48 PM
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the unfounded ego on the dude lol. BTW, The cuckolding already came because she had a daughter
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/01/19 01:47 PM
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he also makes the mistake of thinking that they dont like it. Look man, i've worked in the service industry, and ive fucked in the service industry, and ill let you know that most of these chicks revel in the attention. It also ends up getting them FAT tips, but that's besides the point : they fucking LOVE this shit. Free drinks, lots of money, and oodles of validation and attention-what's not to like? The girls that don't like that atmosphere? They get out of the industry ASAP. They don't stay …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/01/19 01:46 PM
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I wish the average woman could see how it is for the average guy, even if only for a day. They'd sing a different tune
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/01/19 01:33 PM
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I love how they ignore the consequences of doing this , or rather, pretend they don't exist. If you fuck around with 'bad boys', 'bad stuff' tends to happen. Unwanted pregnancies, STIS, domestic abuse, emotional turmoil etc. It's not as if fucking with bad people doesn't result in bad outcomes lol. Women man
/r/MGTOW12/01/19 11:57 AM
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shit is pretty fucked up. I know someone will bleat 'not all women', but the faact that a huge number are like this is fucked
/r/MGTOW12/01/19 11:51 AM
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lol yeah, because THAT situation happens more frequently than the inverse. what the actual fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 09:47 AM
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no one is safe when guns are ubiquitous. Staying around for a mugger is not going to do a damn thing other than get you robbed as well. I woudlnt run myself, but it doesnt fucking matter either way, practically speaking
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 09:29 AM
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lol wtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 09:25 AM
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this is always the elephant in the room when feminists debate about masculinity. Until women stop selecting for masculine traits, absolutely nothing will change. you'll just have a bunch of suckers who are fed up and miserable due to buying into the nonsense, which is the only reason red pill even fucking exists
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 09:21 AM
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you have to be pretty bad for this to be the case though. like, REALLY bad. a lot of attractive guys ive known didn't have that much personality and they got away with a lot. I can think of a few that didnt, but it was due to some huge mental blocks surrounding sex and/or literal aspergers. I guess what im trying to say is that your social skills have to suck something fierce for them to negate other attractive qualities. The amount of game you need is proportional to how attractive you are, fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 10:31 PM
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jokes on them-I never got the attention when i was in my 20s, now I fuck all the young girls in my 30s. SAD
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 10:20 PM
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Ime? Absolutely fucking nothing. Assuming you're not dating girls that are younger than 22, the maturity gap isn't THAT wide and there is far less baggage. Not to mention they look better at that age, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 05:10 AM
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well they kinda are outliers. I don't know of many women that want an overly emotional, sentimental man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 04:19 AM
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I've never met a feminist women who didn't want an aggressive and dominant men. I'll go one further and say that the more conservative women in my life tended to be into a wider variety of men on average, and had less kinks to boot. You wanna get with a self proclaimed feminist chick? Apply all TRP theory x 2 lol. Dirtiest, roughest, most disgusting sex will be had as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 03:09 AM
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Id like to also see the criteria used. When they say 'fwb', what is the duration of said arrangements? were the people in fwb arrangements close friends prior? Or did they meet under those circumstances, break it off, and decide that they valued their newly found friendship? Id also like to know how theyre defining 'friends'. I mean im still 'friends' with girls ive fucked, but its usually friends that I didnt have an extended fwb arrangement with, ie we fucked a few times if that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 02:50 AM
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where is this 18 percent figure coming from?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 02:44 AM
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did you just make this up or do you have any evidence that she contributed even a small fraction of what he did?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 02:28 AM
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it's not racist because reasons
/r/MGTOW09/01/19 11:46 AM
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how does that in any way contradict what I said?
/r/MGTOW09/01/19 03:43 AM
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I haven't seen guys with tons of options stick with a crazy girl for long. Ever. To each their own I guess, but there's a reason that really attractive yet unstable girls are often with guys that aren't all that in the looks department, or other criteria that define attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 03:34 AM
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yeah but for some people, being sexless and alone for a long, long time is scarier and worse than putting up with some bs. Why do you pretend as though you don't understand the issue here?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 03:15 AM
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for guys it's often an issue of scarcity imo. 99 percent of the time I see a guy putting up with an unstable woman, he's not the type of dude that is swimming in options. Plus points if the girl in question is far more attractive than what he can reliably get often. I have no doubt in my mind that said dudes would have not put up with teh bullshit if their circumstancese were different.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 09:30 AM
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I found myself relying more on game when I was in worse shape. Once you become more attraction, the level and amount of game required his hilariously small, at least as far as getting laid is concerned.
/r/askTRP07/01/19 07:59 AM
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it's not everything but it's most everything i'd say. Barring severe mental illness or severe social incompetence, looks go a LONG way. So yeah, the amount of work required to game will be significantly less the more attractive you are, generally.
/r/askTRP07/01/19 07:58 AM
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yeah lol, gyms arent comfortable if youre in a heavy work out
/r/MGTOW07/01/19 12:00 AM
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lol 'poisoned' by supplements. Yeah, because everyone in the gym is slamming down chinese made supplements. What a shit head.
/r/MGTOW06/01/19 11:59 PM
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you know exactly what im saying and just like to argue.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/19 11:57 PM
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honestly? it can be a sort of shit test, whether the men know it or not. Depending on how someone responds to 'teases', it can definitely have an effect on his social standin in the group and how people view him as a man. So yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/19 11:24 PM
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your mistake is thinking that it's as calculated as all that. I honestly don't think a lot of women know they are doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/19 10:31 PM
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sometimes it's having a laugh, not always
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/19 10:03 PM
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how would you interpret a shit test, then? and trp finds it to be a normal human thing, it's their way of defining it that you dont like
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/19 09:32 PM
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I have and often. to each their own, but I definitely personally know girls that have obscenely high standards and they bitch about being alone and not finding great guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 12:38 PM
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that doesn't seem very contradictory with a lot of the core ideals and tenants. alphas turning into betas and vice versa is definitely understood and discussed. I also think you're being overly generous when you say that humans are not easily generalised- that mindset conflicts with a lot of well established trends and patterns seen across a myriad of fields, from criminology to sociology to psychology. Most people are not so unique that they do not fall into some category. There will always be …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 12:32 PM
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seems like these women should take some initiative and involve themselves in some self-introspection if they want to find a good man lol. if they're unwilling to do this, they reap what they sow
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 12:29 PM
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not having the same amount of resources is definitely something that will make a man less attractive, probably more than a slight differential in looks or charisma. When it comes to long term dating with quality women, goddamn it matters even more
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 06:36 AM
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why are you framing this as if these women are better than the men that approach? A lot of women out here are low effort and trash as well, so they are selecting in a way that's unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 06:34 AM
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even if she looks worse than him, it doesnt prevent her from pulling some shit. Ive seen it all
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 06:32 AM
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because that doesnt' even fucking matter. Ive seen guys that were better than their gfs/wives in virtually every criteria you could think of and they STILL got cheated on. I haven't seen a strong correlation to looks-matching preventing this, and I certainly haven't seen women refrain from cheating when the power differential was wide and in the guys favor. Meanwhile, some of the most faithful girls ive known were hot and dated guys that were hardly 'chad'. I would be hesitant to tell any guy th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 06:32 AM
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the cdc data is a little outdated at this point
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 11:10 PM
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Oh they complain, but not in the same ways, no. They often complain about not being able to land a certain alpha, or having all these choices but none of the guys are their perfect match. I know of a lot of women that say things that reflect these sentiments, but ill be honest, most of the women I know are hot bitches lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 11:08 PM
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I thought we were just talking like, discussing marriage in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 02:15 AM
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why though? How long is long enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 02:07 AM
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yep. At the end of the day, women are driving this ship
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 02:04 AM
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infidelity is so common. Most of the girls ive slept with in the last year were in a relationship of some kind lol
/r/askTRP27/12/18 02:34 AM
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eh, as long as he isnt fucking them, it doesnt matter. If theyre gonna flirt and cheat, they gonna flirt and cheat. Only thing that matters is that he isn't compromising great friendships over it. Plenty of other girls to steal that aren't your friends gfs - harmless flirting is whatever
/r/askTRP27/12/18 02:34 AM
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dude fuck the people at your school, do what you want. In time, no one is gonna judge you over such petty things. Fencing is the dopest shit ever, I miss it.
/r/askTRP27/12/18 02:08 AM
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if she's a friend and you're not gonna be weird about it, just go to the lunch. I meet the significant others of friends, men and women, and it's not an issue unless you make it one. ​ I don't think there's any ulterior motive here man
/r/askTRP26/12/18 11:02 PM
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yeah I know, some girls will say one thing yet still lead the guys on.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 08:55 AM
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while this is true, we don't really need to reproduce like this anymore, and havent for a LONG time. If anything, the fact that we still do is a detriment at this point. Last thing we need is more criminals and idiots having kids and not taking care of them. AT this point, it'd be best if it worked in the opposite imho
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 01:41 AM
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this is it. There are definitely guys that fit that bill, but it's not as ubiquitous or common as women would have you believe. Furthermore, women aren't stupid. A lot of women know that guys are into them and they allow them into their lives and accept their time and favors. When men are conditioned to think that being a certain way results in romantic bonds/sex, and women blatantly and mercilessly play upon this misguided notion, you're bound to have some sour apples. im not defending the ange…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 11:57 PM
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it's really all about perspective. You have to realize that sex is never really 'free'; you pay for it in one way or another. If you could total the amount of money you spent in the pursuit of women, and also see the amount of hours wasted, you'd probably understand why people utilize escort services. Remember - most people utilizing these services on the regular are the wealthy and rich. High end escort services are not being sustained by guys that do it once or twice a year lol
/r/MGTOW16/11/18 11:47 AM
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people that havent been on this earth long enough to notice the change have no fucking idea. Things are so much differnet now
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 08:46 AM
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I know of so many girls that have dated and/or fucked guys twice their age. People need to stop pretending that this doesn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 08:45 AM
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you're entitled to believe what you want. I dont believe that youre a well adjusted, attractive person lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 03:06 AM
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when I see some of the most uncouth and fat girls get endless matches and dates from tinder, I have no reason to question that. There are men with standards, yes, but too many disgusting women are being validated by attractive men who are clearly their betters.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 02:38 AM
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this is the only reason its annoying for most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 02:34 AM
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bs. If youre attractive and charismatic, it doesnt matter at all. I have friends that meet people in grocery stores and coffee shops all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 02:34 AM
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before smartphones and dating apps were a thing, people used to talk on buses and trains all the time. I had a ton of dates from girls I met on the bus/train while in Uni. Christ things are depressing now
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 02:33 AM
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he aint wron
/r/MGTOW15/11/18 01:37 AM
2

you have to understand that she literally doesnt know what she wants and doesn't have the level of self awareness required to understand herself, so she truly finds that advice to be right. Ive met girls that understand who and what they are, and they would NEVER give advice like that. You know what my one girl friend told me the other day about attracting a girl I liked? 'You know what would make her want you? her knowing you fuck other women'. Another girl friend of mine told me that 'make you…
/r/MGTOW14/11/18 09:26 PM
1

bingo.
/r/MGTOW14/11/18 10:18 AM
2

EVERY attractive and/or high status asshole guy in my life, past and present, has had unlimited access to pussy. EVERY SINGLE ONE. Meanwhile, I know a crap ton of nice guys, many of whom are attractive and successful, who have struggled and still do struggle today. They sure do care about personality - they love bad ones
/r/MGTOW14/11/18 10:16 AM
8

posting this to ihavesex is retarded. John may be a douchebag, but he wouldn't have any trouble obtaining sex, whether he pays for it or nto
/r/MGTOW14/11/18 10:09 AM
23

I don't even get what planet they're on. Rich people are always targeted and whether or not you like John as a person is besides the point.
/r/MGTOW14/11/18 10:08 AM
3

you'd have to be a special brand of stupid or naive to deny that rich men have no shortage of female suitors. What a stupid bitch
/r/MGTOW14/11/18 10:05 AM
2

i know quite a few girls that keep guys around for this purpose so yes
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 02:14 AM
1

you have to realize that a lot of the info disseminated here and other manosphere places is being spread further than you realize. TRP used to have a lot of unique visitors on a daily basis, most of whom did not take the time to create a reddit account. Same goes for here and other places as well. You also have people that read this and talk about it to their friends - most guys I know are fairly receptive.
/r/MGTOW12/11/18 10:05 PM
4

sound cloud rap is truly cancer
/r/MGTOW01/11/18 02:10 AM
1

ignore
/r/askTRP01/11/18 02:06 AM
1

yeah it's pretty trash, but what can you do about it?
/r/askTRP01/11/18 01:50 AM
3

I'm going to be square with you : girls in the service industry are not usually good candidates for a serious partnership. I've fucked quite a few girls while working in the industry and more than a couple were already in relationships of some sort. It's constant temptation facilitated by booze and drugs; it's not the type of atmosphere conducive to monogamy. WITH that said, I have known of girls in the industry that truly rise above all of that, but they aren't the type to stay after close to d…
/r/askTRP29/10/18 08:06 AM
1

i've seen sluts destroy social groups and cheat on many good guys, so saying it doesn't affect anyone is kind of naive. I'm not against sluts because I am one my self, and love whoring with them, but lets stop pretending that slut arent deleterious to a lot of men's health. I've personally fucked 5 girls in the past 6 months that had bfs, some of them long term. Shit is pretty fucked up
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 05:55 PM
2

and that's so common too. It's unbelievable
/r/MGTOW29/08/18 04:18 PM
3

yeah, it took me way too long to learn that you should never do that for a women unless she has proven that she cares, beyond any shadow of a doubt (ie she fucks you on the reg lol)
/r/MGTOW29/08/18 04:17 PM
1

The problem is that it's hard to quantify 'cheating'. I know of a lot of people that have cheated (with me and/or others), but due to the fact that were close friends, no one, and I mean NO ONE will ever find out about the incident. I suspect this is very common and a lot of relationships continue forward with the other partner knowing nothing of the affair or hook up (s). So ya, I think rates of infidelity are higher than any survey will capture, but I can't give you a number
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 07:11 PM
1

well you have a subset of people that have it easy due to good genetics and other factors, people that can 'afford' to be delusional to an extent. The people that are routinely punished over and over again for holding such ideals are insane though-not sure how they can keep at it as long as they do
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 06:59 PM
15

Dunno about 95 percent but it's often more right than people realize. When you're around someone for an extended period of time, you tend to notice changes, some of them subtle
/r/askTRP08/08/18 05:15 AM
1

uh what? I know some of these women intimately, and some have even confided in me that they know this to be the case. Others are more subtle about it, but it's clear as to what's going on. I know a lot of guys that are blinded to the reality of what has happened as well. Im not sure what the fuck you want me to do for you here, but yes, i've seen it. A LOT of men settle and are settled for; this has always been the case
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 09:55 AM
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no way. I've known a lot of girls that ended up returning to a back up option. It happens a lot ime, and i pity the guys that fall for it. A lot of them end up getting owned
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 09:11 AM
3

how the fuck does something like this get 116 likes?
/r/MGTOW18/06/18 11:07 PM
1

social circle game usually takes a longer time and is better for unattractive guys, but it comes with a lot of downsides - namely that you cannot ghost or next them as easily, potential drama that can affect your relationship to others in the circle, etc. I honestly think that finding people that are detached from your social circle is the wisest course of action tbh. So easy to ghost someone with not muss or fuss.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 12:07 PM
2

and you really cannot ignore the logic in wanting a younger mate if you plan on getting married and having kids. If you meet someone that's 24-26 around 30-35, you have much more breathing room. Meeting a girl that is pushing or over 30 is a lot more of a gamble
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 11:09 AM
3

hamster gonna hamstah
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 10:28 AM
3

without a doubt. Women's preferences are often defended
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 10:27 AM
1

yeah it's always a double standard. You have to also realize that women, young and ESPECIALLY old, take this as a personal attack. They don't like the idea of guys their age dating down; it's an insult to them
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 10:27 AM
8

I really think tech is what made all the difference. The changing cultural/societal attitudes around certain things certainly played a part, but tech has catapaulted hypergamy to absurdly high levels.
/r/MGTOW09/06/18 10:13 AM
7

women don't even have to admit it, they say it all the time. If you're around any women that are comfortable around you, you will hear them talk about how attractive certain guys are constantly. Or say things like 'how is he single when hes that attractive' or 'i cant believe shes with him, hes not even that attractive' and so on and so forth. I have yet to meet a woman who didn't say these things at some point
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/18 10:33 PM
2

seriously. he gives women way too much credit. I think he'd be shocked at the types of guys that women he respects have fucked
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/18 10:28 PM
8

yeah, I don't get this liberal bullshit where they judge trump's attractiveness based on what he looks/acts like in his older years. that guy was a hot property for a long time and could fuck virtually any woman he wanted. The man's name was glorified in rap songs and a in a lot of other popular culture as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/18 10:24 PM
4

Chads dont even have to be bad people either, they can just be stupid, clueless, or weird and it doesnt' matter' I know this guy that is seriously kind of gooney in behavior but he can coast on his looks 24/7. It's ridiculous, if he wasn't attractive he'd be fucked
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/18 10:20 PM
1

I honestly disagree that most men do not want to find a decent woman and settle down. Most men are NOT able to play the field all that well and are literally banking on meeting someone that can be a potential life long partner and wife. I have a lot of friends that have trouble getting women to commit because they still want to have fun
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 09:08 AM
1

this is always the type of example i think about when people dismiss the effects of society/culture when it suits them. Would they apply this evenly? Doubtful.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 11:43 PM
0

seriously. Someone can cheat and still be a great friend in a platonic sense to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 11:22 PM
3

what a dunce
/r/MGTOW04/06/18 08:06 AM
3

oh bull fucking shit. The way you phrase something can have a real effect on the way the recipient takes it, even if said recipient is ok with the act/behavior. Furthermore, you can still value someone and not wish to commit to them; people engage in this all of the time and as long as both parties are honest, it's fine. Sorry but talking about the other party like they're a piece of meat rather than someone sharing in the endeavor with you is gonna alienate a lot of people. Language matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 07:53 AM
1

how old are you? I can honestly say a lot of younger women are perfectly fine with this kind of thing. I've heard a lot of women state that theyre not looking for relationshps or commitment, while i've had a lot of male friends get rejected for WANTING commitment. Maybe in the post-28 age range you see otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 12:02 AM
1

Women lie about commitment to get things ALL THE TIME. I don't think it's good for either party to lie about commitment, but I honestly think it goes both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 12:00 AM
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why does he have to say it like that, in the crudest way possible? You can still have a connection with someone for a time without the intention of it going anywhere serious. Saying 'I just want ot have fun right now' or 'i'm' not looking for a relationship' is abundantly clear, direct, and to the point. I wish women were more honest about their intentions like that tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 12:00 AM
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saying 'i dont want a relatsionship' and 'im just trying ot have fun right now' is pretty damn honest. That's more direct and to the point than most women are at least
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 11:58 PM
1

it's such a bad joke lol.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/06/18 10:41 AM
6

if a girl said this to me, she's immediately cut off for life
/r/MGTOW31/05/18 10:50 AM
2

you should focus on banging girls and making female acquantances, not so much friends. Female friends are stupid
/r/askTRP29/05/18 08:24 AM
2

it's so unbelievably dumb it hurts. Yeah, I started spying on you because you were acting suspicious and my spying was justified in the end. The fact that you were caught cheating justifies all of the spying
/r/MGTOW28/05/18 01:48 AM
3

yeah, they all cover for each other, that's just how these bitches are. You know a good percentage of them are cheating as well
/r/MGTOW24/05/18 11:12 PM
1

you don't owe her anything, just ignore her ass. When you see her act like everything is gucci. That's it, that's the end of it
/r/askTRP23/05/18 10:55 AM
1

Again we have a bloop building a strawman. TRP doesn't think that MOST men can do much of anything. SOME men can most definitely marry a younger woman though, and i've seen it countless times (15-20 year age gaps). I know of at least 3 couples right now that have a younger spouse/gf.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 10:33 PM
3

uh, so what? the point is that reforms passed by women in the play are communist in nature, not that communism existed anywhere
/r/askTRP21/05/18 07:05 AM
1

pretty much.
/r/MGTOW20/05/18 12:32 PM
20

anyone that thinks it isn't true is a fucking idiot. the only guys that have the opportunity and willingness to cheat a lot are chads or people with high amounts of social and/or financial capital-and even then, there are plenty of men that stay true to their significant other in spite of having those advantages, because a lot of men tend to be romantics at heart and truly want to love someone unconditionally. Even if women had a stronger moral compass and virtuous ideals, you'd still see more c…
/r/MGTOW19/05/18 11:52 PM
49

I honestly think that they shoudln't complain when these men fly off the handle if that's how they're going to address the situation. You tell these men that they can fuck off and die, you're going to create a scenario in which they have NOTHING to lose. Really fucking stupid
/r/MGTOW15/05/18 09:20 PM
15

seriously. prostitution was always a constant in virtually every society in the pre-modern era. I don't get how anyone can debate this-I often see people say that incels woudn't be helped by prostitutes, because they want something more. While there may be a semblance of truth to this for some of them, I REFUSE to believe that if prostitution was de-stigmatized and legal, that the problems facing incels woudln't be alleviated to a significant degree. It's not good, and it's resulting in a shit t…
/r/MGTOW15/05/18 09:18 PM
3

yeah and the only time it is an 'issue' is when they want to malign sexless men as some kind of security issue, like when some mentally ill and isolated incel snaps. OF course the discussion isn't even constructive then, jsut more 'men need to stop being violent and entitled and go quietly into the dark night' lol.
/r/MGTOW15/05/18 09:15 PM
2

edgy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/18 08:02 AM
3

well you're entitled to your opinion I guess, but it's hard to take you seriously when you think that weak men should just go out and die enmasse. TRP is about helping those men, albeit in a stern manner, not about telling them to just kill themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/18 01:24 AM
3

well, considering that sex and relationships are an important part of the human condition, what other choice did weak men have exactly? Is it reasonable for them to continue down the same tired path, not getting what they need for fulfillment in life? I really don't get this argument. Women are not going to change their tastes, so it only makes sense to acquiesce if you're concerned with having sex/successful relationships with women you deem attractive, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/18 11:11 PM
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at least she's honest
/r/MGTOW13/05/18 10:05 AM
1

i didnt mean you need all of those really, just that you often need to fulfill some of those categories. It also depends on the type of women you're chasing and where you are at in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/18 09:18 AM
1

yeah, I have a lot of failed relationships with women, but at least I have them. I cannot imagine my life without said experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/18 09:14 PM
3

the average fat dude without a good job isn't often laying attractive women... I never said ALL women, just that a lot of women coast on their pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/18 09:12 PM
0

I hate this shit and patrice o neal more than covers it in the black phillip show, where he outlines all the ways in which a man makes himself lovable, and how little the woman actually does to make herself lovable. So many women expect us to be interesting, to make her laugh, to have a good job/car/fashion/fitness, etc etc. A lot of women think that just showing up is enough, showing up and looking attractive (and a lot of them can't even do that). Men do a lot to be attractive, I don't see wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/18 08:38 PM
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I can't believe she's getting upvoted for stating such utter nonsense. Low value women are still gate keepers and could choose to employ different tactics lol. The fact that they slut around is hardly due to their status, but rather their lack of education, IQ, fatherfigure, etc. Furthermore, high value women are still promiscuous. Go to any college town and look at the privileged white women slut around.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 11:07 AM
1

LOL. Bull fucking shit. Ive been with women that hid a lot of terrible flaws at the outset of dating, only to unleash their full insanity once the claws were in. Women lie all the fucking time, don't kid yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 11:03 AM
1

low value women are forced into slutterry? Why can't low value women avoid that? I really don't see how you can remove all accountability like that. This dichotomy you've created is false anyways, there are plenty of women that are not 'low value' that slut around and could commit but choose not to. Look at the amount of privileged women in college that opt to be sluts at the expense of men that would date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 11:01 AM
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yeah, I wish a lot of guys would realize that if a woman is truly into you, there is no real 'chase'. If she's not enthusiastic and willing to hit you up and hang out, just next her and move on to the next. Way more effective as a strategy. Even if you finally wear a girl down and get somewhere, the amount of time, energy, and mental strain is hardly worth it.
/r/MGTOW11/05/18 10:00 AM
8

lol how is that ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 07:35 AM
2

I dunno, societal attitudes about things impact A LOT. Would you make this argument about slut shaming, or homophobia? It affects how you view yourself and the behaviors you engage in.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 09:31 PM
0

problem is that escorts are expensive and like i stated earlier, the stigma is still there as are the legal issues (although less pronounced with escorts)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 09:13 PM
1

prostitutes are still stigmatized and illegal in the US and a lot of other countries though. I'm all for legalizing and regulating that industry, and hell, i'm even for government programs to provide a prostitute visit from time to time if the individual is sexually frustrated. Just treat it as a medical bill.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 09:11 PM
15

I really hate how people minimize the experiences of incels too. Unless you've gone through it, it's really not cool to act as though their condition is trivial and to label them as entitled. That's real easy to do when you have had plenty of sex and are still getting it. I cannot imagine the mental damage these people have by the time they reach 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 09:10 PM
1

Yeah, that's the leftist mindset though. Their ideology is rife with contradictions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 09:08 PM
1

I didn't mean just money, but rather time and other things as well. Furthermore, not every guy has as much ability to get fuck buddies like that, so ymmv. For the average guy, sex costs quite a bit
/r/MGTOW09/05/18 04:48 AM
1

why the fuck do you guys care so much about his smoking? Let the guy smoke fuck, it's his body
/r/MGTOW08/05/18 05:32 AM
7

one of the first things I hear girls comment on is how a guy's cute or attractive, every single time they mention someone that is interested in them or their friends
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/05/18 10:48 PM
11

sex is only important when you can't get it. Once you get it semi-frequently ,and see the costs that you incur in order to get it, the whole thing is kind of ridiculous.
/r/MGTOW07/05/18 10:23 PM
18

and i'd reckon that they still get more attention than the equivalent guy gets. They just don't get it as easily as before, and most importantly, they don't get the level and frequency of attention they got from seriously high smv men
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/05/18 09:40 PM
11

I don't get how were supposed to feel bad for them lol. They had all this unearned power and squandered it, god forbid you actually have to develop a personality and cultivate something to obtain things you desire
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/05/18 09:39 PM
1

It's almost hard to believe this isn't parody at this point. How utterly delusional and lacking in self-awareness must you be to post such drivel? It's truly mind boggling. Also-lol at carrying 200 lbs like a 'damn queen'. Even if she's 6'3 (unlikely), she's gonna look chunky at that weight.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/05/18 07:42 PM
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yup. You could make this argument for virtually every group of killers sans serial killers and hitmen lol. Even then, a lot of serial killers and hitmen have had turbulent pasts rife with abuse - see ted bundy or read up on the backgrounds of cartel hitmen. I mean shit, most people in prison for murder are involved in the drug trade, and the vast majority of offenders are minorities that grew up in impoverished neighborhoods. These communities have faced a history of institutional racism that ha…
/r/MGTOW04/05/18 09:59 PM
3

lol yeah right. these people are fucking bat shit insane.
/r/MGTOW04/05/18 09:56 PM
1

sounds about right lol.
/r/MGTOW26/04/18 07:37 AM
2

a lot of women don't really know what morality is. Don't expect too much logic in that regard
/r/askTRP25/04/18 02:57 PM
2

that's the weakest argument I ever heard. She's little but she could use a weapon and surprise you.
/r/MGTOW24/04/18 09:05 AM
2

what was their reasoning for not allowing one? I thought restraining orders were relatively easy to get if you're willing to pay
/r/MGTOW23/04/18 09:04 PM
2

it's all so fucking disgusting and honestly, hard to believe sometimes. how things have devolved to this point is beyond me
/r/MGTOW23/04/18 09:03 PM
1

fucking love it
/r/MGTOW23/04/18 09:44 AM
5

this shit is so fucked up. No matter how many times I hear of situations like this, i'm still utterly shocked that it's allowed to happen
/r/MGTOW23/04/18 09:41 AM
3

what a self-serving cunt. you're going to torture and use a guy just because you're afraid of being alone.
/r/MGTOW22/04/18 08:32 PM
22

EVERY SINGLE ISSUE. Id never post on fb about a dead loved one, or a traumatic issue i'm dealing with. Fuck this shit
/r/MGTOW22/04/18 04:25 PM
1

lol don't try to pretend that's even close to the same thing. NO one denied that we have physical needs
/r/MGTOW22/04/18 04:04 PM
1

You don't have to give it up. I still do shit with girls when the opportunity arises, but i'm realistic about what it is. IF you need physical contact and/or sex, don't be afraid to get it IMHO. Just be careful and guard your emotions and always remember AWALT
/r/MGTOW22/04/18 04:00 PM
2

"Two elements must therefore be rooted out once for all, - the fear of future suffering, and the recollection of past suffering; since the latter no longer concerns me, and the former concerns me not yet." - Letter 78, Letters from a Stoic, Seneca
/r/MGTOW22/04/18 03:56 PM
5

lol gotta love this shit. Only need one picture to tell you everything you need to know
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/04/18 09:13 AM
12

love all the fuckign cunts and white knights defending this bitch in the comments.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/04/18 09:13 AM
3

sure, but that's when you question teh entire point of being with a woman in a serious manner. Anything past fuck buddies seems pointless if you cannot have a true partnership. that's why were all here
/r/MGTOW19/04/18 01:27 AM
6

dude seriously. I feel like i've given my all to multiple women in my life only to be fucking destroyed in the end. Even female friends ended up letting me down in the long run, let alone lovers or love interests. I'm not saying I was 100 percent guiltless in every situation, but fuck man, I still don't feel like I deserve what has happened to me. I always had a good heart
/r/MGTOW18/04/18 10:09 AM
1

nonsense response and you havent' addressed anything I said. Ill give you one example of a guy I know irl : I have a coworker that has a killer physique, on the weekdays he mostly works and goes to gym whilst engaging in other hobbies on his. He works 4 days a week. When he has free time,ive seen this guy log onto tinder and get dozens of matches within a halfhour, and often he gets at least one of these girls out that night. Usually he has multiple women he could feasibly take out. When he goes…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 06:08 AM
1

is this a serious post? I don't know the schedules of every guy, so this is a silly argument. Furthermore, some people spend less than 2 hours in the gym per day, some people don't go to the gym everyday even. Then you have some arbitrary times of how long it would take to eat and make an assumptoin that everyone is getting 8 hours of sleep? Even if the schedule you outlined is an 100 percent accurate representation of every chad's life, why wouldn't the weekend be enough time to fuck with women…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/18 09:24 AM
1

gotta love when people play with the term love all fast and loose like that. Shit has no meaning when you just define it as virtually anything lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 11:17 AM
1

this. Been saying this for a while. The average guy's experiencse are so far detached from this so you're gonna get a lot of bewilderement. Not that many people can truly pull it off
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 11:05 AM
1

I wish I could introduce you to some of the guys I know in their 40s. It'd blow your mind. I honestly didn't believe that shit happened until I saw it myself
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 11:00 AM
1

I know of a few guys that seriously have 3-4 fuck buddies at any given time. Again, just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it isn't happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 10:57 AM
1

bullshit. I know of a couple bartenders in their 40s who consistently fuck women half their age or thereabouts. Just because you havent' seen it doesn't mean shit. If you take care of yourself and have some form of status, you can definitely make that work.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 10:56 AM
2

I know guys IRL that can definitely pull quality pussy with ease as well. All of them have some form of status, have decent to killer physiques, and have charisma/game. Basically the three things trp harps on. So assuming a guy is following those prescriptions, he shouldn't have any trouble at all. The problem with this disucssion is that a lot of guys cannot FATHOM what that's like. Most guys will never be able to log onto tinder and find multiple girls to fuck that night, or walk into a bar an…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 10:54 AM
2

i'm not going to pretend I can tell who's bullshitting and who isnt on trp, but 1 new girl a month is pretty low for someone that truly follows trps prescriptions, as in, cultivates game, becomes fit and puts on serious muscle, and has some form of status. I dunno , I know of guys that fulfill those three things and they can fuck WAY more than one attractive girl a month-all they have to do is go on tinder and they can usually get multiple girls talking to them and they often close that night. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 10:50 AM
2

no doubt man, no doubt. I'm not a player, im way too unattractive and lazy to be all that, but even ive slept or done sexual things with 4 girls that were in long term engagements. Now imagine how many unfaithful girls a CHAD has banged. It is bewildering.
/r/MGTOW14/04/18 09:17 AM
1

YOU CANT LEAVE
/r/MGTOW13/04/18 11:32 PM
13

gotta love how in the age of the internet, a story like this is published on a fairly large news site.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/04/18 11:26 PM
6

in her delusional head, she thinks that he was afraid he'd rape her/is a rapist, but in reality he just knows that he's playing with fire if he dates her. I mean she's already on the offensive and showing her crazy before they have even done anything. If i was in that situation, i'd dip as well. Anyone that wrapped up in that sort of shit is bound to look for rape everywhere. 'if youre a hammer...every problem a nail', etc.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/04/18 11:24 PM
2

oh im not denying it, but if someones fat it's usually not an issue of steroids ime. The people that are on steroids are often unbelievably cut while still putting up major weight. I'm usually more suspicious if someone is packing a ton of muscle on a small frame and putting up shit that's absurd. It's uncommon for a steroid user to allow themsleves to be fat, because one of the biggest advantages of steroids is being cut and stronger than you should be
/r/MGTOW13/04/18 11:04 PM
1

precisely why traddudes are delusional. They're looking for something that doesn't exit, or rather, is extremely hard to find. While I have no doubt that there are women out there that will be faithful and decent, the fact still remains that A LOT of men will not find them. Most of them are not going to be that.
/r/MGTOW13/04/18 11:02 PM
2

ive seen heavy girls squat 250 in the gym. if youre willing to be fat and train hard, it's doable for sure. The girl in the picture is unlikely to squat 200 plus though.
/r/MGTOW13/04/18 10:47 AM
4

they completely eschew the complementary role they played in years prior.
/r/MGTOW13/04/18 10:24 AM
3

lol cuz the average woman cares about us when were sick or dealing with issues in life. Good one.
/r/MGTOW13/04/18 09:10 AM
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god as if being fat isn't enough, you get shitty tattoos, piercings, and strangely colored hair. Can you say mental illness? Ugh
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/04/18 11:26 AM
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In what world is she too beautiful lol
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/04/18 11:25 AM
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...and now's the time to start looking for that! After you've given your all to fuckbags and have an illegitimate child! It hurts my soul that beta ass dudes will still line up
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/04/18 10:35 AM
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seriously. You're telling me this guy RAPED a girl, ACTUAL rape, and then proceeded to fall for her and date her exclusively? Yeah ok.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/04/18 10:24 AM
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seriously, she provides no details that point to it being rape in the slightest. What made it rape?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/04/18 10:23 AM
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how much you wanna bet that she and this dude just got really drunk and had sex, with her regretting it the morning after? The story is so fucking vague and there's nothing to point to this situation being actual rape. The dude probably has no idea she considered it as such
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/04/18 10:21 AM
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is this a serious comment? If so, it betrays just how ignorant you are to the realities of FULL SCALE nuclear war. First off, only two bombs were used in japan, two bombs that are NOTHING compared to the missiles available today. Secondly, that wasn't a nuclear exchange between major powers, which is what ww3 would be. If you look at MAD retaliation plans, the world would be FUCKED if nuclear war were to break out. Were talking about countless numbers of advanced nuclear war heads hitting all ov…
/r/MGTOW12/04/18 09:47 AM
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if world war 3 breaks out, it wont matter where you live. I don't get why people act as though a nuclear war wouldn't fuck over the entire planet. you will not be safe from fall out and other effects of nuclear weapons being used by major nations; it's not as though you need a nuke to directly hit you to be affected.
/r/MGTOW11/04/18 11:23 AM
1

lol it's 100 percent true
/r/MGTOW11/04/18 08:46 AM
1

comparing the two is ridiculous. The impacts of smart phones/social media are way more pronounced and far reaching. Reading the paper on a train or at the breakfast table before work is not even close to the same thing.
/r/MGTOW10/04/18 11:17 AM
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yeah , you gotta read between the lines when trying to understand women (not like it's that subtle anyways). She opens with how much of a rock he is, how he is the perfect guy, has a great personality etc., but then proceeds to say 'He lost over 170lbs, he got his degree and the career/dream job he wanted, he went from shy and timid to a social butterfly, and he has 0 ego. '. Notice how she slips this in AFTER highlighting all the great personality traits he has in a half-hearted attempt to not …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/04/18 09:22 AM
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well you kind of answered your question. The only people that have the ability to fuck girls whilst being low status are extremely hot guys. The types youre describing also tend to be involved in something attractive to certain types of women, like drug dealing or playing in a band. I've never seen an ugly ass low status dude without interesting/dangerous hobbies get women with ease.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/04/18 09:17 AM
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and how you much you wanna bet that she's not telling the whole story, that he was always into her and she rejected him, or at the very least, failed to reciprocate what she knew he felt. Now that he finally has found a woman that truly values him enough for marriage, she's suddenly feeling distraught and questioning her life choices. Fuck selfish cunts like this
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/04/18 09:15 AM
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ive seen this play out so often that it's becoming a meme to me. Women are fucking children, trp was right about that
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/04/18 09:14 AM
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all I know is i'm intimately acquanted with multiple women who have dated guys 15-20 years old than them, some of whom are still dating said men. One has been seeing a guy 17 years her senior for FIVE years. Take that as you will. I'm not saying it's incredibly common, but i've seen at least 5-6 examples of it working, and i'm not THAT incredibly social so if i've seen it, i'm sure it is happening quite a bit. id say it's more common for a 5-10 year gap though
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 05:47 AM
1

lol wait, someone disputed that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 02:29 AM
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it's sad that you have to spell this out lol. So obvoius
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 02:21 AM
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i dunno most guys don't have the privilege of thinking any other way
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 05:13 AM
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lol an empty chat history...bitches man edit: and the ex thing is a red flag and yes, she is likely cheating on you, but the real issue is the fact that she mooches off of you whilst being moody and providing shit tier sex. That is what caught my attention the most. You should really reconsider this relationship imo, and weigh the pros and cons. From the limited information you provided, it doesn't sound worth it. Don't put up with a parasite who brings nothing to the table just because you fear…
/r/askTRP03/04/18 11:59 PM
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I disagree with this. The girls that i've been with that were talented and experienced in bed learned their skills in long term, monogamous relationships. meanwhile, ive been with girls with kill counts of 40 plus that were pretty shit in bed. Fucking tons of guys does not always translate to being good in bed, many girls hone their skills with men they trust and can practice with on a regular basis. I know the meme is 'crazy sluts good in the sack', but it is NOT always true. It can be true tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 07:48 AM
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yeah I don't get how that comment makes anyone a virgin lol
/r/MGTOW03/04/18 07:38 AM
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yeah I don't even get how his statement is wrong in any way. No woman goes out like that without knowing what reaction that kind of dress will garner
/r/MGTOW03/04/18 07:38 AM
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this is a pretty astute observation, and I cannot say I disagree at all. It's getting HARD for the average guy to not develop some neuroses and misogyny in this environment.
/r/MGTOW02/04/18 02:42 AM
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dating is just such a dangerous game, as far as your emotional health and finances are concerned. So many risks with little benefit. It's just fucking brutal for men out there
/r/MGTOW02/04/18 02:39 AM
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I dunno if i'd say common. It happens, but it's not entirely common. I know of a lot of people that got cheated on or cheated themselves, and theyre all still breathing.
/r/MGTOW30/03/18 10:25 AM
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it isn't even a fucking opinion anymore. Across every QOL metric, men as a group are getting ass raped. The statistics don't fucking lie, so i'm getting sick of this being considered an 'opinion. It's a FACT.
/r/MGTOW30/03/18 07:37 AM
2

gotta love how she specifies sydney is the land of beautiful women and shallow men, without realizing she's a shallow git herself
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/03/18 08:20 AM
2

yuuuuup. If anything, men have been neutered nowadays
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/03/18 06:40 AM
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Did they seriously just compare the plight of the average, spoiled modern woman to african Americans throughout time? WOWWWWWWW. Yeah guys, the truly oppressed are the white feminists. Fuck the nyt, what a shitty rag it has become
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/03/18 06:40 AM
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yeah, their usual go to is to trivialize the experiences of men in order to invalidate their observations. It's fucking bullshit. It's clear that thousands upon thousands of men have come to this conclusion, via direct EXPERIENCE, but they are to be discounted because it's not p/c to talk about. Yet no one questions the experiences of women.
/r/MGTOW29/03/18 05:45 AM
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I love how cucked out the responses are. So many men share this sentiment due to experience, but yeah, lets pretend that you should rely on meeting that unicorn one day.
/r/MGTOW29/03/18 05:20 AM
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i've seen more women drop their friends like hot garbage than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 12:58 PM
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not everyone, but A LOT of people, and unfortunately a lot of people that term themselves 'good friends'. But there are real aass people you cna have in your life, i've definitely avoided fucking with girl friends of guys I know
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 06:17 AM
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ive seen guys overlook blatant acts of misconduct, where cheating had a high likelihood of happening, and they'd often invoke this phrase. It's always sad when people see what they want to see, even with evidence of it right in front of them.
/r/MGTOW27/03/18 01:35 AM
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nah. I just think that treating women as if they're not is dangerous, due to past experience in my own life. It can definitely work and there are women out there that temper their hypergamy if not curb it altogether. It's just such a fucking minefield and the consequences are so high that it's hard not to just assume awalt and act accordingly and hope you're proven wrong. I honestly think it's getting worse though, and I have a lot of theories as to why. edit: it seems that whenever I ignored th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 09:53 AM
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ok fair enough, but I don't think any top members would advocate for awalt applying to every person ever? So you're nitpicking some idiots that are applying AWALT and refusing to believe there could ever be an exception. I don't get the point of that
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 09:25 AM
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you've been here long enough to know that trp accepts there are potential exceptions. Awalt is promoted because a lot of women tend to fall under it, with the idea being that you're better safe than sorry. Generalizations are never inclusive of EVERY type of individual, humans can be more complex than that, but that's really besides the point. If a good majority of women exhibit these behaviors, does it make sense to just bank on finding the exceptional ones? Most of the men that have come to pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 08:08 AM
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bingo. Trp is hard on men, it's even hard on its own users. Bullshit is regularly called out and people are told to own their shit there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 08:06 AM
1

not denying that, just saying that your stats are fine and it's likely your game that was lacking when you were still trying
/r/MGTOW21/03/18 03:13 AM
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Honestly, having all those things should help you, but if your game sucks you're still gonna have a bad time.
/r/MGTOW20/03/18 10:45 AM
4

I don't even understand tradcucks. Theyre selling a dream that no longer fucking exists, and even if it can, you're taking a HUGE risk chasing it. Fuck tradcucks
/r/MGTOW20/03/18 09:44 AM
1

lol
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/18 03:52 AM
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yeah I love that. He has proven himself to not be all that great of a person, yet she still insists he's a good person, which she conspicuously states in between 'attractive' and 'good at sex'. Women are dumb man lol
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/18 03:17 AM
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'decent men'....'seeking arrangement' LOL
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/18 03:13 AM
1

it's basically a tragedy in motion
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/18 02:57 AM
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it's fucking depressing. He's gonna get used and abused by this woman, and all the fuckers in the comments are for it. Makes me sad for him
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/18 02:56 AM
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'all the things youve done for other women'. Like what bitch? Sounds like he still stood by this bitches side and provided her with immense emotoinal support under the guise of friendship lol. And yeah, gotta love how they break it down like that. 'As long as she didnt run through all that cock in a short time frame, it doesn't count!'. In what fucking world is 30 plus partners by 28 not a lot of partners? Most guys don't even have half of that by 30
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/18 02:54 AM
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the worst part is he has intimiate knowledge of her sexual/romantic past. IT seems he has been a beta orbiter for a long time, so she has no doubt used him as an emotional tampon under the guise of 'friendship tee hee'. When I was in a similar position and got to hear about her sexual exploits and see her shitty lovers, it was hell on earth and I still have some emotional baggage from that kinda shit. thankfully I wised up
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/18 02:52 AM
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or girls that fuck to fill a void and develop seroius mental issues because of it. hmm
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/18 02:50 AM
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lol gotta love it
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/18 02:50 AM
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not to mention that the therapy comment completely misses the mark anyways, because it's not just about partner count but rather about the fact that he's pined over her for YEARS and likely has a ton of mental baggage about it. you dont usually have that much intimate knowledge of their sexual/romantic past if youre dating someone you barely know, and you certainly lack the mental baggage of having unrequited love.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/18 02:48 AM
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the idea that you 'win' in the end is the most disgusting bullshit. This guy is still young and could easily slay girls within the 20-26 age bracket, yet he's gonna settle for some bitch that denied him access his entire life, which has probably resulted in some serious mental baggage and heartbreak. My god guys, the red pill could save this guys life if he'd let it edit: oh and of course there's some bitch saying 'lol you need therapy, if you cant handle her past you wont handle anyone elses. Y…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/18 02:32 AM
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ah yes, instead of addressing your mental issues in a healthy way, seek to fill the void with cock. That's the ticket
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/18 02:27 AM
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nope, it's still about her. That guy is lovable, because he makes himself lovable, how is this cunt lovable?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/18 12:38 AM
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Another thing - why do they think men were benefiting from this dual strategy and therefore could even think about it in a similar fashion? Most of the men they settle for were not having a smooth time in the smv up to that point, so it's not even the same for both parties. If every guy was a chad fucking girls until he settles, fine, but you're basically trying to sell this to the average dude who was NOt that
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/18 12:36 AM
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women are so fucking stupid it hurts sometimes. That sounds great if you're a woman and can benefit from both strategies, but to the average guy? Sounds like you're relegating him to being a dating retirement home, after he has gone through the ringer and had his heart crushed time and time again. I mean how solipsistic do you honestly have to be to not realize the optics on this? or how it sounds to men? Their lack of self-awareness is pretty unbelievable. edit: and in the end, it's still all a…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/18 12:31 AM
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yup. Every girl that has a frustrating time in the SMV is perfect and their failures are the fault of all the men out there. Every. Single. Time.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/18 12:22 AM
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if youre an attractive woman who is pleasant and 'normal', there is absolutely no reason you wouldnt be able to find a guy. She's likely not aware of what she really is
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/18 12:22 AM
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right. If a person has a severe mental illness, they have to be taking it seriously and leading a lifestyle that is conducive to stability and mediating the worst effects of the disease. She clearly is not doing that
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/18 12:20 AM
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she also loves music festivals. I dunno man, that usually means she imbibes in other shit
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/18 12:19 AM
2

having bipolar isn't even the major red flag, it's the non chalant, cavalier attitude she has about it, and how it's a badge of honor to her and something she willingly advertises on her profile. That just tells you that she isn't taking her illness seriously, as in, going to therapy regularly, living a healthy lifestyle, and taking medications if necessary. That isn't really an illness you can take lightly, not if you want a stable life. It also doesn't help that she talks about smoking weed an…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/18 12:19 AM
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and even if you can't, I still don't feel bad for women if they opt to prioritize career over starting a family. Everything has trade offs in life and that's how it is. But yeah, plenty of women get degrees and further a career whilst finding a husband, so you can't even pretend that it's impossible. I guess if she was getting a phd I could see that, but again, that's a choice she made and she should realize there are trade offs with such a decision
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/18 12:14 AM
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it blows my mind that they are bewildered by the fact that given the option, a guy will opt for a younger woman. And no, the maturity gap isn't so wide if youre talking 25 vs 34
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/03/18 12:11 AM
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As much as I agree that this is the best way to go about things (with people in general even), I still think it's erroneous to pretend that women could not do better. It's the degenerate culture that encourages and promotes their lack of virtue, not that they are literally incapable of exercising more control. Men and women have that power and there are individuals that seek to uphold a life of higher virtue out there
/r/MGTOW19/03/18 10:26 AM
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pretty much what i've come to realize tbh. Patrice O neal goes into depth on this and explains it pretty well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 07:35 AM
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you can still have fun and do your own thing. I really don't think it's IMPOSSIBLE to have that sort of companionship, but rather it's a huge gamble. You might luck out or you might not, and that's something you have to accept if you decide to venture into that world
/r/MGTOW15/03/18 10:04 AM
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yup. continuing to buy into the lie results in a lot more hurt and bullshit down the line. Every time i lapse, I get burned.
/r/MGTOW15/03/18 10:03 AM
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nah, i find it carthartic. Some posts are garbage though.
/r/MGTOW15/03/18 10:02 AM
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we all get burned by women, welcome to the club
/r/MGTOW15/03/18 10:00 AM
1

you know people are low iq when they discuss shit like this publicly. Fb has messenger built int for christ's sake
/r/MGTOW15/03/18 10:00 AM
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suicide would be a legitimate option in this scenario. jesus christ
/r/MGTOW15/03/18 05:34 AM
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yeah it's a disgrace.
/r/MGTOW15/03/18 03:39 AM
1

that's kind of besides the point though. I don't think any trpers are in denial that men fuck around given the option
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 02:27 AM
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lol 'self reliance'. Even if that's the case in their youth, they're still hypergamous and fucking upwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 02:14 AM
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yeah, part of it is economic, but a lot of it is due to changing cultural norms. Women want their cake and to eat it too, and that is fucking everyone
/r/MGTOW15/03/18 01:55 AM
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oh come on, both sides are equally guilty of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 01:52 AM
1

yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 11:18 AM
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I would lol. I have never felt like the amount of effort required for and the amount of heartbreak in dating was wroth it. At least not for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 03:00 PM
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lol. A lot of the films on there are period pieces in which a lot of female dialogue woudln't make much sense.
/r/MGTOW12/03/18 02:55 PM
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that isn't even true though. I can remember a few scenes with women talking lol. not sure who compiled this list but their methodology if shit
/r/MGTOW12/03/18 02:54 PM
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i dunno I think tinder is being utilized by anyone from late teens to early 40s though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 11:26 AM
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right, but depending on where youre at in life, this isn't always an easy thing. I agree though, that should be where you go
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 11:04 AM
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you say you were never great looking, but then you state that girls regularly approached you. I dunno man, a lot of us cannot relate to that, so I think you're drastically under selling how you look. A lot of guys have to approach or nothing will ever happen
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 10:48 AM
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yup. the effects of online dating on a lot of women are pronounced and trickle out into the real world, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 09:25 AM
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yeah it's bad news bears for most men, even attractive ones IMHO. First off, if you cannot effectively utilize tinder and dating apps youre at a huge disadvantage these days. Secondly, smart phone culture has made it harder to cold approach because a lot of people don't think it's normal to be bothered in public, so it's not exactly the 90s anymore. And third, once you get into a relationship, you have NO way of knowing what apps your gf is using or who she's talking to across a myriad of apps b…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 09:18 AM
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yeah it takes a lot of practice. Cold approach is getting harder with smart phones anyways-people just aren't as open to random interaction like they used to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 09:15 AM
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It's a double-edged sword, really. For guys that are attractive and/or able to sell themselves effectively on such platforms, it's like shooting fish in a barrel. For the average joe? It's a fucking grind, and they'd be much better served meeting girls irl and working on their approach and aesthetic. Texting and messaging is pretty neutral regardless of the dude. If a girl is into you, texting/messaging in a normal fashion isn't going to kill attraction. It actaully helps a lot of people in a my…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 09:14 AM
1

kinda in a downturn right now so no lol. But the path is clear
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 09:12 AM
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Varied. But hey, I NEVER said it was rational, and for the most part I regret wasting time on all of those bitches, so were on the same page. I was just an idiot. Low self esteem coupled with other issues and you get a perfect storm of vulneraability and codependency.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 08:46 AM
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i know theyre not everything but they go a long way in terms of what types of behavior you can get away with, how many mulligans you get, etc. The amount of effort required and the behavior expected of you is much, much greater the worse you look. Obviously you can mitigate this with a killer personality, aesthetic, and status, but that goes without saying
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 06:29 AM
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women constantly do creepy, weird, and awkward shit and get away with it. I've been on the receiving end of their bullshit countless times. The difference is that they get away with it and guys dont
/r/MGTOW12/03/18 05:37 AM
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oh come on. Looks still play a part in it, the guys ive known that were crazy and violent but ugly werent swimming in hot girls at all times
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 05:13 AM
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yeah and I think a lot of men can relate to this too. How many of us have put up with a LOT of crazy from hot women? I know I have
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 04:18 AM
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I think the issue is that a lot of people overstate their ability to be objective when it comes to judging someone with good looks. This applies to men and women, god knows ive let a lot of shit slide with hot women because I saw what I wanted to see, suffering a LOT as a result. There's often a turning point and a limit to the abuse/bullshit any one person can take, but it's crazy how long people will overlook fatal personality flaws because the person in question is hot. Furthermore, we don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 04:17 AM
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yeah, a lot of chads can afford to be unpleasant and still get more pussy than the 'awesome' average or below-average dude. Furthermore, a lot of the self deprecation is concentrated in dudes that aren't all that because thye've been treated like garbage by women for so long. I knew this destructive bipolar dude that was fucking scary as all fuck who NEVER had an issue getitng hot women into him because he looked fucking gorgeous. He'll probably beat and/or kill a woman someday if he already has…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 04:14 AM
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Yep. It's hard to hold onto an extremely attractive woman if you're not attractive yourself. I've fucked above my 'league' a billion times but i've never been able to retain them, although i've had a lot of issues besides a lack of aesthetic so it's hard to pinpoint. But generally I find that power imbalance to fuck you in the end
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 04:12 AM
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I'm proof of this and I agree on some level, but when it comes to retention, looks matter. I've always found that I can swing fwb's or one night stands with extremely hot women but they eventually branchswing to something better due to the unlimited options they have. I know exceptions exist but you're constantly at a disadvantage and your game has to be tight. I think the effort involved is not worth it, tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 04:11 AM
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Depends on their level of self esteem. I find that a lot of prettier women can be easier to get with initially, but retention is another matter altogether. I also find that a lot of pretty women have neuroses that are VERY unattractive, and a good amount have legit mental illnesses. Usually the juice isnt' worth the squeeze past a certain point unfortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 04:09 AM
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yep. If you want to make a point about women and the realities men face when it comes to dating, you HAVE to temper the message or you'll be shut down before you can engage in any level of debate. With that said, softening the message and conceding ground is a futile strategy in the long run, but you can hope someone in the audience will be receptive. Not everyone is ready for unadulterated trp 'truths', they need to be eased in first.
/r/MGTOW12/03/18 01:18 AM
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Yeah it's fucking bullshit. Men have to be so many things in order to qualify to most women, ie fuck them, and then women turn around and act like doing the most menial of tasks is a 'burden'. It's a goddamn joke. Women do so little to be lovable these days, and act as though offtering up their vagina is enough- when it comes to a healthy relationship between two people, that just isn't the case https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfrj-va6PHg pretty much sums up the problem. Women don't know how to …
/r/MGTOW12/03/18 01:14 AM
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typical woman really
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/03/18 12:05 AM
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lol for real. There's a spectrum of attractiveness and i'd say if you fall under 'wont have his kids, disgusted by his genetics', you have a major problem as far as a healthy relationship is concerned.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/03/18 12:05 AM
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lol that advice is ass. While being a virgin at 20 or 21 isn't the end of the world, it's naive and ridiculous to pretty up the fact
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 10:45 AM
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honestly, that guy has fucked so much pussy that going monk mode doesnt even seem like a big deal loll. Even if he let himself go he'd still have endless options with beautiful women with absolutely no effort required.
/r/MGTOW10/03/18 09:40 AM
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no fucking shit. Assuming the man in question hasn't had a wonderful, loving woman in his life for the past 5-10 years, he has been through the ringer.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/03/18 08:00 AM
3

I can get behind this. Titos is about the same price as smirnoff and tastes better than absolut, grey goose, or any of the other big name brands. Really is great
/r/MGTOW08/03/18 07:55 AM
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even when I was a liberal cuck, I still couldn't justify 'equalizing my playlist', because the music women produce is just subpar in comparison to what men put out. That isnt' to say there are no good female artists in music-bands like portishead are great-but on average, women just aren't putting forth interesting, creative music on a technical or lyrical level. I guess if you're into poppier shit it doesn't matter though
/r/MGTOW08/03/18 07:54 AM
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yeah, and guys: don't allow her crying and appeals to your emotions sway you. Girls are EXPERTS at this shit, and they have honed their ability to manipulate over time. Don't buy into the charade because it's not usually genuine. I've seen girls go from calm to crying in an INSTANT, like they flipped a switch. I just saw this the other day tbh, she turned on her hysterical histrionics immediately when she receieved a call from a guy she wanted to manipulate. Dont fall for it.
/r/MGTOW08/03/18 07:43 AM
2

not like they had a choice. we all got mentally raped in time. Loving women is such a dangerous game for a lot of men.
/r/MGTOW06/03/18 02:13 AM
3

yeah ok. Women tolerate tons of abuse, verbal or otherwise, from guys they're attracted to all the fucking time. But nah man, it's because you're not nice enough, right?
/r/MGTOW06/03/18 02:12 AM
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wow what a cunt
/r/MGTOW05/03/18 07:17 AM
3

i'm not sure what the answer is, but dating in the modern era is a the fucking minefield as far as your girl being hit on/having contact with unlimited men is concerned. Most girls are talking to a shit ton of guys, and if their bfs/husbands could see their phones, I really think I they'd go ballistic. All I gotta say about this is that a lot guys I know, good guys for the most part, were fucked over whilst trusting their gfs and not shutting down advances or suspicous behavior when they saw it.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 10:05 PM
6

these days it's really hard, to be fair. I'm not saying a strong father figure coudln't help, but I knew girls that racked up counts like this and they had strong father figures. The degenerate culture, coupled with things like mental illness or underlying psychological issues of some sort, makes it so a lot of women end up engaging in destructive behaviors, at least as far as sex and relationships are concenred. like, even if you had instilled the proper value systems in a woman, she is still g…
/r/MGTOW04/03/18 10:01 PM
2

not only is it absurd that people cannot admit that 50 partners in ONE year is a bad thing, but it's a major disservice to girls like her who are quite literally ruining their lives, or at the very least, not addressing underlying issues that are causing them to conduct themselves in such a reckless manner. That's really the problem with the no 'slut shaming' rule-people that espouse this think they're being understanding or helping the people affected, but in reality they are contributing/enabl…
/r/MGTOW04/03/18 09:59 PM
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ya I think most people could accept 10, maybe 20 partners by the time youre 30, but 80 is beyond the pale. That indicates that she likely has issues. All the women i've met that are 25 + have severe mental issues. Healthy, well-adjusted people just don't run through that much cock in a lifetime. Sorry
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/03/18 10:09 AM
7

seriously. 80 is ridiculous
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/03/18 10:07 AM
13

lol 80 fucking people. I could sympathize with her if it was like 10-15 or so, but 80 fucking people??? that is a huge red flag, and I consider myself pretty liberal with my viewpoints on sex
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/03/18 10:06 AM
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honestly, having a lot of partners doesn't even translate to being amazing in bed. You learn the most from long term partners, because you can truly get to know the other person's body and experiment comfortably. Casual encounters are often sloppy with alcohol involved
/r/MGTOW01/03/18 08:19 AM
4

lol wtf. cucks of reddit
/r/MGTOW01/03/18 08:18 AM
4

yeah I was gonna say that UMC women is a group that is most likely to produce unicorns-esque women, or atleast a group in which the most egregious traits of awalt are tempered a bit. The lower you go in class, the worse AWALT prescriptions get ime
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 12:59 AM
6

sheer degeneracy. To deny it would require you to be willfully delusional.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/02/18 02:09 AM
3

yeah, not everyone is created equal in terms of how well they can weather the storm, so to speak. Lots of mental illness and other factors that can contribute to a guy failing to cultivate the proper confidence and skills needed to succeed in the SMP.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/18 06:23 AM
91

wtf is the point of the windows if not to show off the goods? This is jsut absurd
/r/MGTOW22/02/18 01:41 AM
17

lol wtf. feminism is a joke
/r/MGTOW22/02/18 01:31 AM
2

yeah, if you've known any alphas in your time, this is basically what it is. A lot of alphas do end up settling down eventually though.
/r/MGTOW21/02/18 09:43 PM
2

yeah, if you think about it, society really doesn't benefit at all in this current framework. You can only make an argument that it benefits a lot of women in the short-term, and that's pretty short sighted if you're trying to create and maintain a functioning society. The degeneracy knows now bounds and we will continue to pay for it
/r/MGTOW21/02/18 09:42 PM
1

they use MRAs as a blanket term for 'misogynists' and the manosphere at large. It's pretty hilarious because MRAs are a lot softer than places like mgtow and TRP, but get lumped in just teh same. and you're absolutely correct - she basically admitted that women misuse their freedoms whilst shafting men. They shoudln't be forced to be responsible and disciplined becasuse reasons. Meanwhile, we all get to pay for their mistakes! Society is REALLY benefiting, right?
/r/MGTOW21/02/18 09:38 PM
2

lol she just unknowingly sided with a lot of manosphere types by saying that. I think a lot of people would like to see a reduction in the degeneracy so that pursuing a family is once again a viable option. The only people that benefit in this current environment are 'alphas' as she puts it, and they are not the types that women would be selecting for if there were more controls on their behavior. Quite the opposite, really. I mean shit, TRP only advocates for the alpha lifestyle in response to …
/r/MGTOW21/02/18 09:35 PM
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this is why relationships is a retarded sub. they always take the women that post there at face value, when it's always clear they're painting a picture that isn't quite representative of the situation in order to sound better. Truth is she's young and looking to branchswing and her SO probably knows this. I bet there are a lot of legitimate reasons for him to think this way ,but she paints it as he's a couch potato that want's to limit her hobbies/passions.
/r/MGTOW20/02/18 09:45 PM
3

if they were at one point, they certainly aint now lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 02:09 AM
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right. No one is denying that there are delusional men out there that are envious and misrepresenting men their friends are dating, but there are a lot of cases where the men legitimately see their beloved friends getting abused and have no power whatsoever, all the while realizing that being decent isn't cutting it for them. Why this is so controversial around here is beyond me, bloops act like women are always rational actors and that men are ALWAYS at fault and that's just fuckign ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 12:27 AM
1

again, i denoted that in the literal first sentence of my post. Of fucking course there are delusional, envious men out there-no one is denying that. What i'm denying is that 'nice guys' are the only ones that get flustered at what they see, which is that women often date literal abusers and rationalize it. It's wrong to put a blanket statement on this either way, but you dont' seem to get that (hard to grasp, I know)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 12:25 AM
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lol seriously. While the prototypical 'niceguy' exists, a lot of dudes are fairly decent and get confused when they see their female friends date literal abusers. Fucking bullshit, women are wonderful effect in actions here - surely the woman is exercising good judgement and it's those darned nice guys that are fucking shit up!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/18 09:45 AM
2

somehow this escapes the loudest detractors each and every time.
/r/MGTOW13/02/18 01:32 AM
4

thank you. I can't believe this post is trying to blame men for it, when a lot of trp tactics could not be effective if society was more patriarchal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 11:48 PM
1

oh what the fuck ever. They're trying to shame men in this vid, or society or whatever the fuck, when women are the prime reason this shit has happened. They vote in the trudeaus and merkels of the world and have the k audacity to blame men as a group, when men with a shred of masculinity and testosterone already knew the score. Fuck their shaming bullshit, they wanted this and they got it
/r/MGTOW12/02/18 10:21 PM
1

right, while it's a hilariously bad location, it's the thought that should count and the fact that she puts so much weight on the location is a huge red flag.
/r/MGTOW12/02/18 08:42 PM
1

while im not a fan of marriage, it is kinda hilarious to propose at a gas station.
/r/MGTOW12/02/18 08:41 PM
1

it's very common unfortunately. I don't think it's fair to generalize all women, but it's always a risk, especially nowadays where finding another mate is as simple as loggin onto an app
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 08:15 PM
1

right. And yes, we have enough food and resources to supply the world multiple times over, but it is an issue of corruption and logistics most definitely. What's hilarious is that the woman in question probably has a huge carbon footprint relative to most everyone in the world and she fails to see this atop her high horse.
/r/MGTOW12/02/18 07:31 PM
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what's really hilarious about this dumb fuck is that she doesn't realize that space travel will fix all issues of scarcity. If we can reach and mine asteroid belts/planets/moons within our own solar system, we can retrieve water, rare minerals/metals, and other resources that would allow us to truly reach a post-scarcity way of being. That isn't even touching upon the potential for terraforming and such. To put it simply : if we cannot get off this rock and venture into space, we will surely go …
/r/MGTOW12/02/18 01:13 AM
2

ok im sorry, but if a woman was attacking me with scissors like that, i'd kick her in the fucking head. No way i'm gonna take that
/r/MGTOW12/02/18 12:12 AM
1

yeah that's the one. to paraphrase what she said : fuck around with bad boys and whoever the fuck, because there will be nice guys waiting in line to be your dating retirement home after you've had your fun.
/r/MGTOW07/02/18 08:18 PM
3

it's hilarious that they're trying to do damage control after the fact. Men don't owe women anything, and if the risks are too high, men are not gonna be inclined to help more than they have to. I'm sorry but they're framing this as if all women are rational and would never misconstrue a situation or use their status to their advantage, and that's ridiculous.
/r/MGTOW07/02/18 08:17 PM
18

yeah lol wtf. Pretty damning red flag. The only saving grace is that she's hot and young, so it could be worse
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/02/18 08:04 AM
9

because low value men can only get with attractive/high quality women if they have status and/or an amazing charisma/game? I dunno yo, I see a lot of low value women get with guys that are WAY better than them on the regular, I don't see the opposite situation play out that often without immense effort. A lot of low value guys will never be high status or have an amazing personality for a myriad of reasons, so it's not like the path to victory is always possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 07:43 AM
9

I feel like trp has covered this before. It's well known that extremely low value women have it bad, but that still doesn't change the fact that extremely low value men often have it even worse. At least as far as the smp is concerned
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 07:31 AM
1

well no shit, but i'm a well-adjusted human and dont like fucking over an entire gender just so I can have it better.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 07:30 AM
2

where are all da good men at
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/02/18 04:15 AM
9

i got a similar message from a girl recently, and my reply was 'hey I like you but it's fine' lol done. but then again, im a relatively well-adjusted human so
/r/MGTOW06/02/18 04:01 AM
3

same. acquantances sure, but I rarely found women to be quality friends in the long run. They're too used to a one-way street and they think that's the norm
/r/MGTOW06/02/18 03:37 AM
3

lol this bitch right here. First off, r/iamverysmart. Secondly, wow, so you're mad he let you down easy? Girls send a variation of this message to men on the daily, and often with far less tact. And a big LOL at you trying to play it off like you weren't that interested in his advances, when a response like that clearly shows that you were invested and that you're now very butthurt about the ordeal. What a crazy bitch, and what a fat bullet dodged by my nigga
/r/MGTOW06/02/18 03:34 AM
5

lol seriously. There's no way she couldnt have found a decent man,but her standards were probably much too high alongside a shitty attitude
/r/MGTOW05/02/18 01:16 PM
10

good riddance. Meanwhile, male suicide and mental health has reached epidemic levels, but lets craft a news article about one stupid bitch
/r/MGTOW05/02/18 01:15 PM
2

seriously. He's basically defending degeneracy that goes against his own religion
/r/MGTOW05/02/18 01:10 PM
2

say what you want about ann coulter, but shes 110 percent here. This kiddy diddling cuck is appealing to emotion rather than looking at the actual data and statistics. The data doesnt lie
/r/MGTOW05/02/18 01:09 PM
1

I don't know what blows my mind more, the fact that a woman can be this utterly heartless to her 'lovers' plight, or that the laws/court system allows for this to happen.
/r/MGTOW05/02/18 09:27 AM
5

in this case I think 4 might be true. Usually I find these arrangements suspect because the guy isn't attractive enough to reliably get laid with hotties, but this guy clearly is
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/02/18 07:12 AM
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honestly, this seems like one of the better 'open' arrangements i've ever seen. The guy is clearly attractive and I have no doubt he can fuck other women on the side with relative ease. Usually the guy is considerably less attractive than the woman in such arrangements and therefore the power imbalance is much too great
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/02/18 07:11 AM
2

rofl. 'a little overweight' indeed
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/02/18 06:48 AM
3

I love how much of a shallow twat she is. 'creepy and gross guys'. Wow. edit: rofl just saw her response where she says she's pretty but 'overweight'. Yeah, chances are you're as gross as the guys you're rejecting you fat sow
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/02/18 06:47 AM
2

gotta love how it's not sexist to celebrate that there were no male winners. This guy should just chop off his fucking dick
/r/MGTOW05/02/18 06:39 AM
18

the have your cake and eat it too mentality really fucking blows.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 04:36 AM
2

why though? That's an irrational viewpoint and will potentially prevent you from learning new things and understanding others. Everyone makes mistakes, it's how they address said mistakes that matters. I think he's genuine here and truly didn't fully understand mgtow prior; he certainly says a lot of things taht jive with a lot of mgtow sentiments
/r/MGTOW31/01/18 11:18 AM
2

the sad fact of the matter is that a lot of guys these days would overlook it or think it's ok
/r/MGTOW31/01/18 11:12 AM
1

Hiding debt of that magnitude before marriage is so fucked up. The fact that none of the cucks in there mentioned that is proof positive of how biased reddit is. AND WHY THE FUCK DID SHE PUSH FOR A BABY IF SHE KNEW HER DEBT WAS THAT HIGH!? she doesnt even have a good job for fuck's sake. So many things wrong here
/r/MGTOW31/01/18 11:09 AM
1

I love how no one states the obvious : it's ultra fucked up for someone to hide their massive debt until AFTER marriage and a baby. How manipulative and ridiculous, how can you trust someone that acted as slyly as that? I mean he's dumb for not investigating before putting a ring on her, but holy fucking shit that says a lot about her 'character'
/r/MGTOW31/01/18 11:07 AM
6

seriously. I've never really liked demonizing the 'nice guy' archetype, because I really think a lot of the guys that utilize failed strategies just don't know any better, and if some of them lash out a bit, I think it's understandable given the misdirection they've had pushed on them for their entire lives. Doesn't mean they should keep employing said strategies ad nauseum, but I get why they do and the subsequent frustration that develops.
/r/MGTOW31/01/18 10:52 AM
5

lol 'dating'. I love how dating is 'meet guys online and fuck them without any vetting whatsoever'. She could literally take it slow and get to know a guy over days, weeks, or months, but nope! Because she rushes into it and opens her legs almost immediately, she has to give up on dating and of course all men are at fault edit: and lol at using fet life as a way to meet 'quality' guys. I'm not against all fetishes, but i've found that most people use the fetish label ot excuse straight up degene…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/01/18 06:34 AM
5

what really pisses me off about this shit is that women will often treat you like scum, if not ghost you entirely, if you 'text too much', even if said texts are benign. They have no leg to stand on when it comes to this shit
/r/MGTOW31/01/18 06:33 AM
1

a lot of people don't care about having children anymore, so not sure how this is supposed to bother those types.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 04:54 AM
2

women and 'allies'. Saying it like that is so fucked up. So men are the enemy by default unless they prove themsleves an 'ally'. Don't these cunts realize that many women are against feminism and voted for Trump?
/r/MGTOW31/01/18 03:55 AM
1

I love how when you bring up this obvious fucking point, men are still blamed. Surely there are no problems inherent to women in the modern era and had these men been more intelligent or discerning, they would've been spared the emotional devestation and heartache, right!? You just can't win whilst arguing with bloop types, because they refuse to admit that a large proportion of women are part of the problem, and that it's not always the fault of men when things go awry. I've known too many good…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 03:28 AM
1

it really is startling just how much things have changed since online dating/tindr blew up, alongside all the cultural narratives being pushed. Dating is really a fucking shit show for men now, no ifs or buts about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 03:24 AM
1

I dunno man, it's not so much that men are upset that women act differently, it's more so that modern women often act in obscenely selfish ways without repercussions. Expecting tact, common decency, and honesty isn't really something that's beyond the abilities of your average woman
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 03:21 AM
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that last point is garbage anyways - i've known plenty of women that only date in monogamous arrangements that are experimental in the sack. Threesomes might not happen, but I really dont think many guys care about that outside of fantasy; they're overrated anyways imo
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 03:20 AM
1

see, that's where I disagree though. The assertion that all the options are 'shit' is off the mark, and I feel a lot of women i've known think they're much more valuable than they really are and that results in standards that are much too high, if not unrealistic. I'm not saying you should just date any slovenly douchebag, but I often see women rejecting guys for strange reasons, guys that are really quite decent in almost every category that counts. edit: and yes, some of them may have access t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 03:17 AM
1

not always, I have known of men that could have as many girls as they wanted but still tended to be romantics. I agree that a lot of men will act in such a way given the options though, because who can blame them? Even they usually grow out of it and want to settle down later with someone 'special', because that lifestyle isn't as fulfilling past a certain age, at least in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/18 03:15 AM
1

not always tbh. There are a lot of posters in there that will kick it to you straight. The beta apologists will attempt ot counteract that though
/r/MGTOW29/01/18 12:47 PM
7

the woman also has the fucking choice to keep the kid or not....
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 12:44 PM
1

it's sad that men will still be lining up to wine and dine this bitch
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/01/18 10:47 AM
8

lol just gets better and better. I think what's ultimately the best thing about this, and what i get some schadenfreude from, is that you know she'd never overlook red flags of this caliber when dating. They are so blind to this hypocrisy it hurts; she's expecting this well-adjusted guy to just fall into her lap and ignore everything else when she's not willing to do the same for the men in her life. Hell to the fucking no
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/01/18 10:42 AM
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I'm not really an advocate for slut shaming or anything, but we need to stop pretending that promiscuity and the current hook-up culture being promoted in society leads to optimal outcomes for all people. It's really an unhealthy mindset to have, and you have people like this woman who are so utterly confused and distressed at their situations. On one hand, she is being brainwashed by society to think it's ok to be a slut and that there are no consequences, nor should there be, and on the other,…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/01/18 10:28 AM
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basically in line with what youre saying, acting like theyre not in a a heavily advantaged position and taking that for granted whilst projecting said experiences onto men whose experiences in the SMP couldn't be more different. Theyre constantly drowning in attention and validation and think nothing of it. They focus on a small subset of high value men and extrapolate their negative traits onto all men, when that coudn't be further from the truth, ie 'all men are pigs' all menjust want sex 'men…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 09:54 AM
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pretty much. IRL, attractive women that I know are always lamenting the state of affairs without having any self awareness whatsoever. Meanwhile, I see my guy friends struggle. It's hard to take them seriously and it does cause some bitterness and resentment
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/18 09:41 AM
3

good luck finding girls like that, it's getting rare
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 08:51 AM
2

lol uh no? snap chat is used for messaging but people post tons of shit all the time on their stories. I think it has taken over in a lot of ways tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 08:40 AM
1

i guess, getting casual sex is still a lot harder for men, assuming you want to bag girls that are attractive to you, so that's kind of a false equivalence. The idea of cat ladies is that they can't reliably get the attention/sex of guys they once could and they retreat into their lives. And a lot of them DID have a proper relationship that gave them joy, but were burned badly over time. Girls that squander their best years just hopping on cocks and then getting upset when the inevitable aging h…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 08:02 AM
4

i don't get how obvious trolls like this aren't banned. how can you act as though doom is arguing good faith when they dismiss your statement in such a dishonest and intellectually bankrupt way?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 12:01 PM
3

seriously. People always think that love conquers all and the other person would never stray or betray them, the divorce courts are full of men that never thought it'd happen to them. Fuck men for being pragmatic and rational in the face of current realities!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 12:00 PM
2

I feel like fearing the state isn't really that outlandish if the state's aims are hostile to yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 11:56 AM
2

both the former and latter parts of your post are concerning, but i'll admit I never even thought about the latter portion. how terrifying. I mean you can already see how groups like ISIS were able to pull disenfranchised young men from all over Europe, the US, and even some asian countries, so it would make sense that more refined state actors would seek to manipulate men in order to destabilize other nations. We saw a lot of manipulation via russia during the elections afterall....
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 11:48 AM
1

the sex bot issue wont be a real issue until they can properly escape the 'uncanny valley', as in, they can easily full a man into not being able to tell the difference. If someday we have westworld style sex bots, I have no idea what the effects will be but it'll be something to behold. I woulnd't be surprised if a decent number of women would opt to have the perfect partner in that case
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 11:46 AM
3

go for it dude, she'd want it that way
/r/MGTOW25/01/18 11:36 AM
2

male suicide across teh board has been epidemic levels for a long time running now, but a few pornstars off themselves due to the toxic decisions they willingly made in their own lives, and suddenly we should all grieve?
/r/MGTOW25/01/18 11:32 AM
9

I love how were expected to feel bad for them. they had all these advantages without earning them, and instead of capitalizing on said advantages and getting somewhere in life, they squandered them. Meanwhile, the average guy is getting fucked over by the same women throughout his life whilst hes busts his ass trying to make something of himself, suffering heartbreak, rejection, and failure along the way. Fuck. That. Shit. It'll be a cold day in hell when I feel bad for women that have no foresi…
/r/MGTOW25/01/18 11:06 AM
5

some of the guys there, maybe, but a lot of them have gotten burned, and a decent number of them continue to fuck around with women but stay out of commitment. it's not so cut n dry
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 11:00 AM
1

because it's impossible for most to go without any sexual contact/romance/intimacy. That's one group that even I have with some members, the idea that you shouldn't even think about or touch a woman again-- I don't find that very realistic save for asexual individuals or those wiht a serious religious conviction
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 10:46 AM
1

yeah, you get the feeling he's being policed by her a lot too, espeically since he brings her ass on with him sometimes. I dunno, I don't even get how he coudln't find a girl that's down for it, there have to be plenty out there but he chose some thin skinned cunt
/r/MGTOW25/01/18 05:30 AM
1

yeah, that's why it's always a solid double standard to point to when discussing female/male sexuality : men are constantly shamed for using dolls or toys, but women get away with it to the point of talking about it openly without any risk of shaming. I've known more than a handful of girls that had a vibrator in their purse and would whip it out whilst drunk. Never once saw a man or a woman shame them for it , as ridiculous and outlandish as that behavior is
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/18 04:41 AM
2

right, but the assumption that he must be into her is fucking ridiculous entitlement on her part
/r/MGTOW25/01/18 04:35 AM
5

I have never heard of a woman getting shamed for a vibrator irl or online tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 01:28 PM
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I love how she literally concocted that whole imaginary scenario out of nothing and in response to a very innocuous and to the point remark about something entirely non-sexual lol. Women are seriously delusional as fuck
/r/MGTOW24/01/18 01:00 PM
2

the issue is that 'genuine' is a relative term here
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 12:32 PM
5

ime, a good mdma high is superior to any feeling you'll feel via love, it's just unsustainable and is often accompanied by a brutal comedown.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 12:31 PM
1

the latter point is always teh thing that bugs me. You don't see women treating fat men with any sort of dignity
/r/MGTOW24/01/18 12:27 PM
1

I hope that every one of these fat protesters are willing to date and fuck men as fat as themselves.
/r/MGTOW24/01/18 12:26 PM
6

being a fan is weird, but I think knowing the names of specific pornstas is pretty legit if youre into a certian 'type' of girl. Why not have a few regulars you can get off to
/r/MGTOW24/01/18 12:23 PM
4

yeah imagine that, engaging in a degenerative, soulless lifestyle has deleterious effects on your psyche and mental health! Stop the motherfucking presses guys. Until society starts to care about the epidemic of suicide in men, they can fuck right off with expecting me to care about degenerate pornstars.
/r/MGTOW24/01/18 12:23 PM
6

I don't even understand how men are clueless about the phone thing. All you need is one girl friend that's halfway attractive to see this in action
/r/MGTOW24/01/18 12:15 PM
3

hahahaha
/r/MGTOW24/01/18 12:13 PM
4

nah, almost every young girl I know is talking to multiple men at all times, relationship or not. I have personally seen their phones on more than one occasion, as in, they leave them out and even show me. It's absurd the level of attention they get and how much they maintain it
/r/MGTOW24/01/18 12:11 PM
1

i'd say it's often even more than that tbh
/r/MGTOW24/01/18 12:08 PM
10

If guys could see their gfs phones, a lot of them would be shocked and disgusted at what they found. At BEST, she is emotionally cheating on you with a dozen or more orbiters who are clearly into her on a romantic/sexual level. At WORST, she is already actively cheating on you and has sent nudes and/or made plans with dudes in her dms / tinder / whatever.
/r/MGTOW24/01/18 12:08 PM
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most people are fucking shit and will never be true friends, but yeah, i'd say that hanging with at least acquantacnes from time to time is healthy.
/r/MGTOW22/01/18 01:27 PM
1

I honestly couldn't give a flying fuck, and somehow I doubt that many men would either. Those mormon girls look pretty normal to me
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 03:32 AM
5

I dunno, there are women that hold these beliefs and act accordingly though. Just because they're rare doesnt mean they dont exist
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/01/18 03:07 AM
2

it's sad that skanks as nasty looking as this can pull these kinds of stunts and men will oblige them. The fuck
/r/MGTOW20/01/18 11:21 PM
1

you realize there were plenty of queens/empresses who sent men to die throughout history, right? and that royal women were often very powerful and influential, albeit behind the scenes?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 12:26 PM
0

counter any of the points he made, because he's 110 percent correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 12:24 PM
2

her ignorance of history is astounding. She has no idea how clueless she really is
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 12:22 PM
0

this really betrays your ignorance of history. Right to vote and own property? For the vast majority of human history, the lower classes could not vote or own land, regardless of their gender. Governance was firmly in the hands of royalty, and it was rare that the common man ever had a voice (you could make an argument for the roman 'Tribune of the Plebs', but it's a far cry from true representation). The idea of every citizen having a right to vote is a VERY recent phenomena, and women obtained…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 12:19 PM
1

holy shit, i feel like this is momentous
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/18 11:09 AM
4

yeah, guys will take shitty jobs in the mean time and/or move back home or with a friend, if not go homeless for a while (god forbid, but if your options suck that happens)
/r/MGTOW19/01/18 10:35 AM
3

wow, what a joke. So any slighted woman can now post your name on an app and completely defame your entire character without any evidence provided whatsoever. I hope shit like this doesn't catch on. and that isn't even going into how men could do this to other men if they're envious, jealous, what have you. What a stupid idea
/r/MensRights19/01/18 10:31 AM
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if the roles were reversed, most women would flounder worse than men. Risking embaraassment and rejection and cultivating the game, status, and aesthetic required to truly play the game is no easy task. Virtually no women would be equipped to do this
/r/MGTOW19/01/18 12:51 AM
4

reminds me of a girl I once knew that would consistently select for toxic traits and then act a victim. It's such fucking bullshit because everyone would tell her the score.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/01/18 04:52 AM
1

they say this on paper, but in practice they're fine with any of these behaviors provided it comes from someone they're attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 04:05 AM
2

seriously. I'm pretty sure myself and most of my male friends cook better than most of the females i've met, past and present. Honestly, a lot of the women ive met are also slobs and their apartments a mess, so that whole idea that women are cleaner than men doesnt' realy jive with my experiences lol
/r/MGTOW18/01/18 12:43 AM
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it's because they're not really 'good' or wise or virtuous, but rather, they want to legitimately bully others without social repercussion. That's the primary complaint levied at sjws and it's spot on. most of their thinking is insanely black and white, which is a big issue if you claim to live a life of true virtue. If you don't believe me, consult any philosophical school of thought worth its salt
/r/MGTOW16/01/18 08:56 AM
4

I love how they always, without fail, jump to calling us virgins. There's just no way we have had experiences with women that led us to these conclusions, right?
/r/MGTOW16/01/18 08:55 AM
1

I mean, perhaps that is true, but does it really matter in the context of trying to fuck women? That's really all trp is concernred with at the end of the day, not objective reality or what is truly alpha by whatever other sort of metric
/r/MGTOW16/01/18 08:52 AM
6

brave new world lol
/r/MGTOW16/01/18 08:49 AM
3

While the vid is funny, it does make me sick that this is reflective of reality. I really don't get why gamers are such cucks when it comes to women, it's pretty disgustingly pathetic
/r/MGTOW16/01/18 08:33 AM
0

well you see, it works for her and other women like her, so therefore everything's great! Fuck the bigger picture and the effects it ahs on society as a whole
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 08:00 AM
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right, but most people don't have to post about it on reddit and talk about how it keeps them up at night. I think a lot of us have had this type of shit go down
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 07:59 AM
1

seriously. I've foregone things that required A LOT more self-control than that. low standards indeed
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 07:58 AM
1

yeah, but the problem is the way in which men are raised, which basically distorts their perceptions of women being imperfect, shitty people as much men can be. I don't think you're really pointing out anything controversial here; if anything, trp is de pedestalizing women to 'peoplehood'. Now, when you compare the common perception/ideal of a woman in society with the reality, it does make women look rather treacherous and shitty, but that's not trp's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 07:53 AM
1

meh, I think a lot of that backlash and hyperbole is utilized in reaction to the societla programming that trp attempts to overcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 07:50 AM
1

do they, though? I feel like trp accepts that a certain percentage of men act in this way or worse, primarily those in the 'top 20' or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 07:50 AM
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dating around and fucking a bunch of retards is never as fun as it sounds tbh. Most women and men that ditched something good for that kind of lifestyle end up regretting it, at least in my experience. Honestly, the hook up culture that is pushed on us is borderline tragic, because the outcomes are optimal
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/18 07:48 AM
1

I don't really, but I have, and I know many very wealthy people that that regularly visit top quality ones and have a grand ol time. I know you're trying to be smart here, but if you are involved in certain circles, youll find that time is valued more than money, and it's preferable to utilize these services rather than constantly chase. Some of these guys are even married, mind you
/r/askTRP15/01/18 11:57 AM
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if you have the cash to get a decent escort, this couldn't be further from the truth. Maybe if you're a cheap fuck and going for the cheapest ones
/r/askTRP15/01/18 11:46 AM
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lol seriously. It's safer, more predictable, and less hassle when compared with random lays
/r/askTRP15/01/18 11:45 AM
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if you have the cash, why not? Just make sure to go through the proper channels. With that said, I've gone as long if not longer and the no. 1 thing you need to do is not give a fuck. having sex isnt' rocket science and once you're back into it you'll be fine. If a girl's into you, she'es not gonna judge you super harshly the first time, and chances are youll both be drunk anyways
/r/askTRP15/01/18 11:44 AM
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not to mention that dating in the 21st is like this a lot of the time. People hook up almost immediately and then wonder why shit wasn't optimal. The idea of dating over a period of time and getting to know someone before engaging in sex is over for many, so getting mad at him playing the game as its being played everywhere is absurd. She could have prevented this a billion times during thier encounter and tried to value herself more, but she didn't.
/r/MGTOW15/01/18 04:26 AM
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man, I don't know aziz personally, but let's be honest : he's probably a fairly decent guy that respects boundaries. I don't get the vibe he's an asshole chad type, add even her story betrays that he's fairly considerate. Had she acted like a normal human being and communicated her desires or lack there of, he would have respected her and they would have parted ways. What a joke this is becoming, a literal witchhunt.
/r/MGTOW15/01/18 04:24 AM
1

I have honestly never met a woman that didn't use social meda in some form. You're basically saying 'never date a woman', which is fine, but let's not pretend there are a lot of women out that that have foregone social media.
/r/MGTOW15/01/18 12:24 AM
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i'm inclined to agree. The evolution of smart phone apps and the their ubiquity also played a huge part in all of this
/r/MGTOW15/01/18 12:23 AM
3

yeah it's utterly insane
/r/MGTOW15/01/18 12:22 AM
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I swear to christ shit wasnt this bad 10 years ago. Things have really changed. I'm not saying it was perfect a decade or two prior, but it wasn't nearly this taxing and fake
/r/MGTOW14/01/18 12:46 PM
3

it really sucks now. I'm sure there are people that abstain from tinder and have decent values, but it's becoming rarer and rarer imo
/r/MGTOW14/01/18 12:45 PM
2

if this is true, talk about a horror story lol. Scarier than anything i've ever watched/read, ill tell ya that
/r/MGTOW14/01/18 12:14 PM
2

yeah I guess I don't hang around soyboys so i dunno
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 12:56 PM
3

I dunno man, I feel like dudes 'real talk' a lot more than women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 12:55 PM
3

you can utilize mgtow and pua without much contradiction. MGTOW is more about avoiding marriage and LTR's, but dating and having sex is pretty fair game. Christians are deluded as fuck, and their beliefs more than outdated, so I can't help you there
/r/MGTOW12/01/18 12:28 PM
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fucking makes me sick, but at least she's being honest about it lol. I hate that I fell into role 2 so often throughout my life
/r/MGTOW12/01/18 12:18 PM
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yeah but i'm around a lot of young women that seriously enable and validate each other CONSTANTLY. And the guys arent much better - most wouldn't risk pissing off a woman because they value their attention and/or want to fuck her. Usually both. I mean i get it, but i'm telling ya that a lot of women are never checked on their behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 12:09 PM
1

no shit. Like if something looks bad, by all means call the cops or notify security, but taht should go without saying. You should never personally intervene under any circumstances, especially if the man in question looks dangerous. You have a goddamn life to live and outdated notions of chivalry are silly in most cases. This kind of messaging is basically reinforcing the idea of male disposability - don't worry about the danger because a woman's life is more important than yours!
/r/MensRights12/01/18 10:24 AM
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nah, a lot of people will say 'you're better than that, don't worry about him!' and other such nonsense, without addressing the elephant in the room
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 08:28 AM
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yeah, they exist but so many women are content with getting blasted on drugs/booze throughout their younger years whilst fucking as many dudes as possible. Bloops hamster around this but it doesnt really fit the defintion of 'quality woman' for a LOT of men. In light of this environment, in which all traditional norms are eschewed in favor of blatant hedonism, it's kinda hard to pretend that trp tactics are not the best option for a LOT of men. This dynamic changes a little bit as women grow old…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 08:24 AM
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so basically they created this unfavorable, shit environment, and we are supposed to feel bad for them. Gotchya. Meanwhile, there are scores of men having trouble landing dates whilst falling behind in both education and the workforce. Lol, just lol
/r/MGTOW11/01/18 11:24 AM
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I love how everyone of these articles focuses on the plight of women in regards to their dating lives, but glosses over the real issue of men falling behind in education. Talk about backwards priorities- I have an idea, why don't the ladies ease up on their unrealistic standards and entertain men from all walks of life? It's not as if every blue collar guy is a fucking moron
/r/MGTOW11/01/18 11:23 AM
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man, all of yall encouraging him to act in a way that is not in line with his virtue are the misguided ones. He doesn't owe that guy anything, sure, but he owes it to himself to live virtuously and be true to his ideals and self. Only thirsty betas rationalize such shitty behavior.
/r/MGTOW11/01/18 09:35 AM
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lol you gotta love the weasely language women employ though. 'you werent the same with financial stress' lol. Translation : you weren't as successful and therefore I'm not attractd to you anymore.
/r/MGTOW11/01/18 04:55 AM
1

I have a friend that always runs back onto the plantation as soon as a girl treats him well/sucks his dick. Like clockwork, he always comes back
/r/MGTOW11/01/18 04:51 AM
6

isn't it possible that a child could be smart even if his father is autistic?
/r/MGTOW10/01/18 08:02 AM
8

this kind of thinking is more prevalent in mental health practice than most would like to admit.
/r/MensRights10/01/18 07:22 AM
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i dont know how you can claim to be mgtow if you date single moms lol
/r/MGTOW09/01/18 09:10 AM
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yeah i mean they neeed to work on that for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 07:14 AM
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well yeah I know they puruse the right guys, helll theyll send nudes and get naked without his prompting. Im just saying that it's either that or iois so blatant that it would take literal autism to not understand whats going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 06:42 AM
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this should be higher lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 05:20 AM
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this x1000. Guys I know that are high smv have girls literally throwing themsleves at them, or at the very least being VERY obvious in their iois. They also have friends trying to set them up with their friends on the regular. This world is alien to most normal dudes unfortunately, and a lot of them don't even know that
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 05:18 AM
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the only question that matters lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 05:17 AM
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and even if they dont' revert to direct pursuit, the iois they give said guys are abundantly clear, as in, you'd have to be borderline autistic to miss it. Meanwhile, meh guys don't get iois at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 05:16 AM
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what are you basing it on? I've had multiple friends go from having immense trouble to getting laid on the regular after internlizing shit from trp. Some of it was improving aesthetic, but most of it was literally learning game and applying it to their interactions with women. I can't prove this on here because anonymity but I assure you these are real cases of real men in my life
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 05:15 AM
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nah it exists because a lot of men could learn game and improve their aesthetic. If they don't even try that's on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 05:14 AM
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a lot of these guys try to get with said women only to be rejected and given wish washy excuses, 'oh youre attractive and great and youll find someone eventually, but it just can't be me' lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 05:13 AM
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ah i see. Sorry thought you were being sarcastic. Yeah this becomes all the more clear when you witness that one guy that infiltrates your friend group and literally beds every girl in it. At the very least, every girl tries to fuck him or makes it clear they would. Then the other guys get the scrapse lol. I've seen taht play out a scary amount of times across al ot of differnet friend groups
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 05:12 AM
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yeah lol, there are a lot of guys out there with a fuckton of female friends but no sex to be seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 05:10 AM
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It kind of jives with my experience, although it changes as women get older and they see the writing on the wall. Even then, they're mostly settling for guys in a pragmatic sense at that point rather than being sexually attracted to them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 05:10 AM
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you do realize a lot of these guys try to get with said women and fail, right? I agree that being unsuccesful with women doesnt make you worthless across all metrics, and that people can still think you're a cool person, but in terms of the smp lewis isn't wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 05:07 AM
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because youre kind of deliberately misisng his point. If a guy is attractive, truly attractive, he should have some female interest. If that isn't the case, it's likely a sign that he's doing something wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 05:05 AM
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yeah, and girls telling you taht you're attractive whilst avoiding any sexual/romantic contact whatsoever is a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 05:04 AM
1

im honestly worried that im adhd and that it has wrought a lot of negative impacts on my life. Could you elaborate more on your symptoms and what changed after getting the proper medication? I just wan't to have an idea if our experiences mesh at all
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 05:03 AM
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i feel like seperating intimacy from sex is kind of nitpicking. They usually follow one another. I mean what men are getting intimacy without sex? And what men would be ok with just getting intimacy? I agree that you shouldnt be overly reductionaist in attributing most things to sex, but seeing as how it's an under current to everything, it's hard to pretend it's not influencing A LOT of what we do, whether that's immediately obvious or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 05:02 AM
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well some are lol. I've been there. Sometimes it's impossible for men to put on a front, but i'm saying generally men try their best to hide that because it's deeply unattractive and results in social ostracization. So yeah, generally we try to hide it and act like everything's peachy and that results in problems down the line, but the burden of performance is always on us
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 04:59 AM
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wherever possible, men try their best to hide their issues and such, especially around women. Airing all your issues and exhibiting low self-esteem is a good way to never get fucked and to lost friends as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 04:47 AM
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you do realize that most men put on a front right? Guys don't air their dirty laundry irl because they get judged harshly for doing so. The social repercussions are real, especially for guys that are overweight and/or ugly; they cannot afford to complain much at all because any slip up will cost them the little female attention and friendship they have. lol I cant believe I have to spell this out tbh. If I aired grievances and complained even a quarter as mcuh as my girl friends, no one would fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 04:22 AM
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By every metric that impacts qol to a significant degree, men have it worse in the west. I could rattle off all the ways in which men have it worse, but you've likely seen the stats and heard it all already. Im not saying women don't have any issues ,but I really think they pale in comparison to what most men face
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 04:20 AM
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seriously, I received a compliment on my appearance the other day and I didn't even know how to take it lol. Needless to say, it wasn't a very graceful exchange on my part
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 04:17 AM
1

yeah when society demonizes mental illness in men and expects a certian type of behavior, it shoudln't be a surprise that this is the case. Furthermore, the field of psychology is dominated by women and has become very feminine in its approach to things, which alienates men further. Almost every female therapist I ever had was clueless and shit
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/18 04:17 AM
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she's retarded. Getting into the interview is 75 percent of the battle. You still might not get the job, but your chances are astronomically higher. Hundreds, if not thousands, of applicants are rejected before they can even have a face-face, or even a phone a call! You cannot understate the importance of getting an interview, and it just goes to show how irrational these people are when it comes to these things
/r/MGTOW09/01/18 01:44 AM
1

how much money does she think she deserves for shooting a few scenes nude? sounds like she was a glorified extra
/r/MGTOW09/01/18 01:28 AM
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eh, just because you haven't personally wielded great power doesn't mean you don't understand how it works. He also borrows a lot from actual examples of powerful people. Stupid argument you're making here, you could extend this line of thinking to virtually anything and invalidate someone's viewpoints, however rational and correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/18 05:42 AM
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yeah she basically just repeated what thousands of people have been saying online and irl lol. Thought the same thing whilst reading it
/r/MensRights06/01/18 12:41 PM
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yeah, a lot of the prescriptions handed out by people of earlier generations are outdated . There is a huge disconnect because they cannot truly grasp how different it is now, in a socio-cultural,political, and legal sense. furthermore, they don't understand how much has been changed due to new technologies that they never contended with. Social media and online dating have affected the smp in a lot of ways
/r/MGTOW06/01/18 12:00 PM
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women are the primary drivers in all of these trends. It's hilaroius they cannot see that
/r/MGTOW06/01/18 10:54 AM
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dude as someone that used to be a mega druggie , i'll let you know that ghb and other roofie drugs are highly sought after and worth a shit ton. Most of that stuff is being abused by people to obtain a high, not for raping. When it's so easy to find drunk girls and/or feed them drinks, using a drug is asinine and redundant. If you want to rape, alcohol will do you just fine, and most of them will willingly get to the level of intoxication that facilitates rape. Full stop. Blows my mind that peop…
/r/MGTOW06/01/18 09:36 AM
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this makes no sense, im sorry. I've never met an ugly guy with no redeeming personality traits and/or status that could swing hot chicks. Those guys always have something, you just dont realize what it is imo. Like, it's possible you get the rare super low self-esteem girl taht will take in anyone if theyre lonely, but it's not common enough to consider imo
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 09:24 AM
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anyone that denies this is just delusional imo. It's really lame that these frumpty dumpties think they deserve guys that have their shit together to the extent you do. I see that shit all the time. Meanwhile, all these perfectly decent, looks-matched dudes are lonely as fuck and unable to even obtain their relative equal. Shit is a sorry state of affairs
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/18 09:21 AM
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where the fuck do you live? I've lived around the US and what i'm saying has been pretty standard. Also-no girl dates an uglier guy if he doenst have something. I find it hard to believe you see all these lame ass, poor, and ugly dudes dating hot 8/10s and over. Like, that just isn't happening. There is something they're providing
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 01:12 PM
1

agreed. I used to ignore red flags at the outset, only to get 'blindsided' later. A lot of guys willingly overlook smaller red flags and pretend that everything is peachy because it's mostly alright for a long while. While you don't want ot write someone off over minor shit, you still have to look for those red flags that make your stomach a tad uneasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 01:04 PM
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yeah those women actually do often have a flaw. That flaw? They regularly sleep with players, who are often honest about their intentions from the get go, and expect to rope them in with sex. I cannot tell you how many women i've known that implemented that failure of a strategy. It really gets on my nerves when said women have the audacity to complain about the results, when myself and countless others, men and women, told them the score from the outset. It's really something Thankfully, there …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 01:01 PM
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I honestly don't see that. The guys that are able to pull hot women often have status and killer game. Even then, it's still notable to see a couple that is unevenly looks matched to the levels you're talking. With women? I know of straight up FAT chicks that have gotten with multiple thin/fit guys in the last few months. It blows my mind every fucking time. And i'm not just talking about fucking, im talking about dating too
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 12:58 PM
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almost always tbh. I have never met a truly well-adjusted, mature woman that allowed herself to get pumped and dumped more than a few times lol. There is this false narrative that is perpetuated, where all these machivallian players are constantly leading women on in the sneakiest and cleverest of ways; surely no woman could see through their manipulations! Bullshit. This line of reasoning is a disservice to the intelligent, mature, and self aware women in my life, the women that have self-respe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 12:56 PM
1

what on earth did she expect? It doesn't even sound like she tried to explain to the mgmt that she forgot and was willing to compensate them. How on earth did this get 110 likes. God I hate this planet
/r/MGTOW05/01/18 12:53 PM
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well that's the kicker - it often isn't. But like most things, hindsight is 20/20. Why do you think exes often crawl back to their past lovers? With that said, some of these women do succeed in finding a 'superior' partner, so it isn't always a wash for them. When they don't though? HO BOY
/r/MGTOW05/01/18 12:51 PM
1

It really depends on the nature of teh break up but yeah, that's ridiculous
/r/MGTOW05/01/18 12:50 PM
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it really is something, isn't it? Since women are capable of getting over it so quickly, they assume men are as well. She was honestly completely ignorant of the mental turmoil and heartbreak you were suffering, and figured that like her, you had gotten over it and maybe even found already found another romantic interest. I can't even get mad at them anymore, because most of them truly don't get it. they transpose their way of thinking onto men and act shocked when they're told something to the …
/r/MGTOW05/01/18 12:49 PM
1

sometimes relationships isnt so bad. This is one of those times. Makes my heart warm
/r/MGTOW05/01/18 12:47 PM
1

I really don't give a shit?
/r/MensRights05/01/18 12:38 PM
1

yeah for sure. Some guys are way too wish washy but the guys that get regular pussy? They good
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 12:38 PM
1

The entire time you've been misrepresenting my argument and pretending I thought it was about getting pussy, when I wasn't coming from that vantage point AT ALL lol. Just because i'm aware that 'nice guys' exist, doesnt' mean I was under that assumption. For the last time - read the op's original story. It was about a guy that not only was treated like shit for helping some stupid woman, but actually ACCUSED of something. This has happened to a lot of men I dunno what to tell you at this point. …
/r/MensRights05/01/18 12:22 PM
1

you make so many assumptions about my life and that's pretty cute tbh.
/r/MensRights05/01/18 12:19 PM
1

It really depends on the person. If you have a true bro-friend or even a pilled girl friend, they might be legit with you and kick it to your straight. But most of the time? People coddle because they want the other party to feel better. When I needed some real truth, I had a lot of women in my life tell me that i'm fine, that I don't need to lose weight, that i'm this and that, and it was really counter-productive. I wasn't really successful before I got some real TRP-like advice. That isn't to…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 12:19 PM
4

It really is something to experience both worlds. I feel ya
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 12:12 PM
1

nah youre just a troll and fooled me into thinking you wanted to have a real discussion for a minute there. More angry at myself for giving you any benefit of the doubt seeing as how you opened with insults from the getgo. I also might be coming down from a drug bender lol so I got time to waste
/r/MensRights05/01/18 12:10 PM
1

lol nothing I said was untrue there. A lot of guys will do ANYTHING for a woman in the hopes that it will have a sexual return. I never said no one thinks that, youre reaching
/r/MensRights05/01/18 12:09 PM
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and please point me in the direction where I said it was about getting pussy in that thread. Humour me
/r/MensRights05/01/18 11:59 AM
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Lol no you shifted the conversation that way, implying that im bitter and wont help random idiot women because I cant get laid. I got laid the most when I was going through a truly bitter and aloof period and I treated women like SHIT. The guys I know that get laid all the time aren't much better. I toned that down consdierably because it never felt natural, and even though I do ok now, it's a farcry from how well I did during that 'phase'. Anyhow, you've purposely derailed this conversation and…
/r/MensRights05/01/18 11:57 AM
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you're being disingeuous here. It isn't about fucking, it's about acknowledgement and appreciation. Instead of that, many guys just get used and all they get is indifference or worse. Read what was posted above me lol. And LOL at your assertion that being nice is what gets you laid. That's hilarious
/r/MensRights05/01/18 11:44 AM
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yeah like, i've known girls that were 4-5's out of ten that always have a partner of some sort, but the guys? Forget about it. I'll go one further and state that a lot of guys id consider 6-8s don't really do all that well for a myriad of reasons. It takes real effort for most guys
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 11:43 AM
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i'll give you the benefit of the doubt, but most of my female friends often say 'it just happened' and talk about it in a passive voice. I'd say most of them are fairly attractive, but I woudln't say that they're all more attractive than my male friends, who have had to put in serious leg work to get what they want (some of them being VERY attractive tbh). I'll agree with you that obese and homely women have a tougher time of it, but I still see them doing far better than their male counterparts…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 11:41 AM
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if time and time again, men have experienced poor outcomes from helping women they aren't close to, what do you really expect? Why on earth should men go out of their way to help women they barely know? I really don't see the incentive. This woudln't even be a discussion if we were talking about random or acquantances that were men. Very rarely do I see people arguing that another man or woman should help out a bloke they dont know very well, and even if they do know him very well, there is ofte…
/r/MensRights05/01/18 11:38 AM
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lol it doesnt belie shit. If you're a friend ill help, but im not gonna stick my head out for randoms and acquantances. I used to do that and at best you get a half-hearted thank you or blatant indifference, at worst they blame you for something, like what happened to the dude in op's story. I'm not obligated to help you if youre a fuck up and made a series of poor decisions.
/r/MensRights05/01/18 11:34 AM
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lol yeah keep hurling insults, that bolsters your argument. I never said I don't help friends you dolt, but i'm not gonna stick my neck out for acquantances and randoms. Sorry, but I don't get anything out of that
/r/MensRights05/01/18 11:13 AM
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lol yeah right. Dude i dont help men or women if they make a series of poor decisions. That's on them. If they're family, im in a relationship, or theyre SUPER close i'll make an exception. Youre a retard if you think it's reasonable to expect me to act any differently. And I never once wished death or rape on anyone. If that is an outcome of thier poor decisions, that's not on me
/r/MensRights05/01/18 11:11 AM
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it's not my fucking job to take care of women and cover for their bad decisions. Unless im in a relationship with you, you're on your own. NO one gives a flying shit when a man is in such a state.
/r/MensRights05/01/18 11:06 AM
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yeah, but the above poster is right - for a lot of women, being yourself is enough. You'll eventually find a suitor and you wont have to do that much work to get there. A lot of women are shocked when I spell out what the average man goes through in dating. They just cant' believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 07:53 AM
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this. People give women too much credit - ime, a lot them aren't very big in the self-awareness department. You wouldn't believe how much simple shit i've guided otherwise intelligent women through in my life. They are fucking confused as shit at all times, likely because of their emotoinal states
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/18 07:51 AM
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it's pretty insane. I was a hedonist but the rampant drug / alcohol use was mostly a way to run away from my problems and those of society
/r/MGTOW04/01/18 12:00 PM
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it sucks because I was a degenerate, just not as sexually prolific as most women. So I can't even properly discriminate against them for things like drug use provided it was on their past. However, if i'm a new man now, maybe i'm looking at it the wrong way.
/r/MGTOW04/01/18 11:59 AM
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lol
/r/MGTOW04/01/18 05:41 AM
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yeah people need to stop pretending chad is only a descriptor for momoa types. Cumberbatch is pretty fucking attractive and has a lot of status and a decent personality to boot. I wouldn't say he's some average schmuck in the slightest.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/18 03:16 AM
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dude you dont 'have' to go to anything. you're being a stupid cuck
/r/MGTOW03/01/18 11:23 PM
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it really fucking is. That's the common sentiment you see expressed to ugly people, and while it's not wrong, it's still pretty fucked up to hear that you have to be on 100 at all times just to have a shot at getting laid with someone halfway attractive, and even then the reward:effort ratio is shit when compared to someone that's truly attractive. I think the worst part about it is the implicit assumption that anyone can cultivate the level of game/charisma/status needed to overcome their physi…
/r/MGTOW03/01/18 11:20 PM
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Women that post shit like this are so fucking stupid. You know this slut is choking down the first chad cock she runs into this year. Fuck off
/r/MGTOW02/01/18 10:01 AM
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seriously. My mother and father have been together, happily, for 40 years, but my view of marriage in the modern landscape is still dim. Most modern women don't adhere to the traditional values/belief systems that they did. Furthermore, they didn't have the crazy social media/dating tech that has completely changed the smp. Cut from entirely different cloths
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 04:58 AM
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James holmes is another example - he shoots up a theater and has received more than 4000 letters from women professing their love and admiration. Man let's face it : psychopaths that kill people and commit heinous acts have magnitudes more female attention than the average beta. Let that sink in for a moment
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 03:47 AM
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charles manson is attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 03:44 AM
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true, but guys with an ak and a crowd full of people still get plenty of women lining up to marry and/or fuck them. See charles manson, that guy from norway, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 11:07 AM
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pablo escobar is a good example of a mass murderer with power that fucked hundreds of women . he even has a quote about it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 12:02 PM
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now watch the wymen and cucks in r/science trip over themselves to hamster away these findings. It's like fucking clockwork edit: well shit, after perusing the x-post there, I have to say i'm pleasantly surprised - most of the posts are logical and fairly red pilled. Bravo
/r/MGTOW30/12/17 10:34 AM
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they already condone this lol. Been that way for a while tbh
/r/MGTOW29/12/17 01:14 AM
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people like him just don't understand this because they're not the ones engaging in it. Im sure he has had a lot of girl friends that were regularly fucking guys but they kept it away from him and he's too dumb to realize it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 12:26 AM
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lol what a cowardly way to deflect the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/17 12:25 AM
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this is a real issue when it comes to ugly people. A lot of friends/family will try and tell you it's not impossible to find a partner, but the partners they have in mind are as low quality as you are. Society wants to keep you in your designated role, which dictates who you should be with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 11:05 AM
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yeah it's ironic that said poster is telling others to get outside and off the message boards, when his posts betray a very real lack of worldy experience. Like maybe he lives in mormon utah lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 10:59 AM
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where do you live? I've lived quite a few places in my time and casual sex was pretty big in all of them, at least with younger folks
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 10:58 AM
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nah he's not wrong. Most women I know have had a shit ton of partners. It seems even more pronounced in the generation under me, which is really saying something. Unless you live in a uber conservative area, it's pretty much a constant. Hell even in uber conservative areas, there is a lot of casual sex going on with the younger folks
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 10:58 AM
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I don't get why people say this. I know a lot of cool ass dudes that arent that great with women. But I will admit he could find someone, but that's wholly dependent on a host of factors, his personal standards included
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 10:54 AM
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lol coffee? That's singling out a lot of people, at least in the US. Not sure how you can lump thta in with booze and other drugs
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/17 10:45 AM
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Using your son as a prop/way to show off your tits without getting banned on a dating app. classy, very 1950s mindset...
/r/MGTOW28/12/17 01:31 AM
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holy shit I agree with you for once
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 06:57 AM
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lol wtf
/r/MGTOW26/12/17 06:37 AM
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it should come as no surprise that many rape complaints are fake. It gets even muddier when you realize the definition of rape varies depending on the person in question. There isn't a consistent definition so you have people claiming rape where the law would disagree.
/r/MGTOW26/12/17 06:33 AM
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the most infuriating thing about asking for a 'source' is when they insist on one for things that are not easily quantifiable, or at the very least, the research is not definitive in the slightest, and likely never will be due to confounding variables and other factors. This is particularly relevant when speaking about things related to relationship/sexual dynamics, but can be applied to most open systems. Sociological research on open systems is pretty shoddy a lot of the time, but they insist …
/r/MGTOW22/12/17 11:44 AM
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ye
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 09:37 AM
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lol ok
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 09:36 AM
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Looks arent everything, but if he was overweight with an incredibly shitty facial aesthetic, his interests and charisma woudln't go nearly as far. I've known a lot of insanely charismatic people with very interesting hobbies that can't get laid with young college hotties, and the constant with all of them is that they're unattractive and/or fat. Can't overemphasize looks over everything else, but it's equally misguided to try and downplay them. They mean a lot, especially as you age
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 11:47 AM
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I've met a lot of guys like him, as in, they lead interesting lives, have solid careers, and have maintained their smv via working out and eating well. You'd be surprised. The problem with people on ppd is that they base everything on the groups they frequent, which is a woefully small sample size to generalize from. With that said, if I were to generalize based on the people i know, where people dating 10 years apart isn't uncommon at all,i'd be off base as well. It all depends on the crowd you…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 11:44 AM
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most people on here don't know that many high value guys imo. If youre fit, interesting, and have a good career in your 30s, you can slay younger pussy for days. It blows my mind that bloops are hamstering against this-just goes to show that they're not high smv and/or don't don't know that many high smv guys
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 11:42 AM
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her posts all betray a lot of salt and bitterness imo. There are some really bitter women on here and it's obvious as to who they are
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 11:40 AM
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this. She's bitter and you can tell! I know of guys that look at lot better in their 30s than they ever looked prior, and tha'ts primarily due to them losing weight and taking more interest in quality grooming and fashion. So to all the neckbeards and scrawny nerds out there : dont listen to naysayers, you can turn things around
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 11:32 AM
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not really though. I know of guys that lost serious weight (60 plus lbs) and started to become WAY more attractive in their late20s/30s. Trust me when I say they're getting much hotter women now that they've controlled for a variable or two. Oh, and I know of guys that got divorce raped that turned their lives around with fitness and career. Men can do just fine as they age, so long as they work on themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 11:30 AM
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it's not as uncommon as the bloops posting in here would have you believe. the average is about 3-4 years apart, which means there are A LOT of people that skew higher. I don't get how the bloops dont undrestand this. Were talking millions of people that have a much bigger gap than 3 years and under. Not hard to grasp but here we are
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 11:27 AM
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imagine a world where you realized that getting pumped n dumped by chad doenst' mean you're worthy of his commitment, now or ever
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/12/17 07:26 AM
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it's not strange at all. I can list off at least two dozen relationships with gaps anywhere from 5-20 years. The 15-20 year gaps are less common, granted, but they even exist. With that said, I know of a few 40 year olds that slay younger because they are fit and therefore look way younger than their actual age, have interesting hobbies/interests, and good careers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 03:07 AM
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the problem is that they're focusing on the average dude. No shit the average 30 + year old can't reliably get younger women - his smv isn't high enough. Guys that have high smv have no trouble
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 01:41 AM
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it's not that 'uncommon'. If the average is within 3 years, that means there is a fuck ton of people still dating outside that range.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 01:28 AM
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yeah don't let the naysayers fuck with your head-if you're high smv, you can do whatever the fuck you want. Just becuase it's not 'common' for your average blue pilled schmuck doesnt mean jack shit
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 12:52 AM
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how is it weird when its not even a 10 year difference? My rents were 11 years apart and are still together 35 years later. You have a dim view of the world imo
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 12:51 AM
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u guys keep bringing up 18 year olds as some gold standard and it's fucking retarded. yea an extreme like 30 v 18 is uncommon, but 30 v 22-25 is NOT.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 12:48 AM
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seriously. I dont' know what the fuck they're talking about tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 12:47 AM
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wtf are you even arguing? Of course there are a lot of people with small gaps, but there are a fuckton of people with bigger ones. Why act like this is some ridiculous, out there pheneomena when millions are engaging in relationsihps that have sizable gaps?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 12:45 AM
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Not only do I know a lot of women dating guys 10 plus years their senior, I know of more than a few dating guys 15-20 years their senior. Most of them are pretty decent women imo. Bloops have a very narrow view of reality
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 12:42 AM
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why is there some aribtrary 18-24 year old standard? At a time when women are not settling down til much later in life, why wodulnt the range be more like 18-28 or something? I know a lot of guys in their early - mid 30s dating girls that in the 22-28 range. Furthermore, I know quite a few guys in their 40s dating half their age, so it definitely happens and more women will engage in that than you realize imo. Just depends on who you are and how you live imo
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 12:33 AM
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true. I meant they dont care unless they can get attention and praise from something, or if they're exposed. They don't truly care about the act itself, the ones committing it at least
/r/MGTOW20/12/17 01:11 AM
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yeah, and most women won't even complain about it because they don't really give a fuck. The women that preserve their dignity are the ones that pay in the end
/r/MGTOW19/12/17 11:01 AM
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this. You have to remember that women created this mess - it could have been prevented if there weren't unscrupulous women to begin with. Do you really think that if women as a group rejected said advances, and didn't fuck for the fast lane, that hollywood wouldn't have relented? Would hollywood have just removed all female roles in films? The answer is NO. Women created and fostered this environment.
/r/MGTOW19/12/17 11:00 AM
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the women willing to do this created the environment were now condemning people like weinstein for. How many women that were unwilling to compromise their dignity were undercut by the whores who were willing to suck a dick to get ahead? Countless, i'd imagine. I've even seen this kind of shit cause animosity across various industries, whether it's in a lab/office setting or in the service industry. It's always a well known 'secret' that a woman is fucking a manager/boss/executive in order to get…
/r/MGTOW19/12/17 10:47 AM
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Honestly, a lot of people in hollywood know this but they're too chickenshit to say anything. The environment in which harvy weinstein operated was created by unscrupulous women ; he got away with it so long because women were willing to go the extra mile for lucrative positions, full stop. You could also say they were taking the fast lane, or taking a short cut in order to get famous. And it's not just harvey- it was likely a very good number of directors and producers in the biz. Does this mea…
/r/MGTOW19/12/17 10:40 AM
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yeah lol, I saw this and had to do a double take. Maybe he's jsut too old to give a fuck at this point
/r/MensRights19/12/17 10:31 AM
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yeah, it's mind boggling though, because he knows people that have lost everything to spiteful ex-wives and seen the devastation up close. It's not as if this is alien to him. It's frustrating, but yea, maybe he has to experience it firsthand, himself, to really 'get it'. That sucks though
/r/MGTOW19/12/17 07:52 AM
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man some of the male artists producing top 40 hits are absolute cucks. Ed sheereen , Mars Bruno (or whatever the name is),and the dude from maroon 5 stand out as being repeat offenders
/r/MGTOW18/12/17 11:15 AM
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every time someone says that, or it's implied, or it appears to be amazing from the oustdie, you eventually find out there are a lot of glaring issues and it's far from rozy. People are really big in the self delusion
/r/MGTOW18/12/17 11:08 AM
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i have a friend like this. No matter how much trp or mgtow shit he reads, he still ends up running right back onto the plantation as soon as he gets a whiff of pussy. You can tell that although he'll read this shit and agree with it, that he secretly is hoping it's all wrong and that there are unicorns out there. Time and time again he gets fucked over and i redirect him to trp and here lol. It's like clockwork and I really don't get how many times you need to get burned before you internalize t…
/r/MGTOW18/12/17 11:04 AM
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not to mention that women almost never pick up masculine skills like fixing cars or being handy with tools
/r/MGTOW18/12/17 11:00 AM
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not all women!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 08:47 AM
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to be fair, if she was fatter than him, it's unreasonable for her to place such lofty expectations on his diet. He made the mistake of marrying a fatty though
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 08:47 AM
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this. This is the problem. This is what trp seeks to correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 08:42 AM
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hes a grossly obese man child. not sure waht people expect from such a creature
/r/MGTOW16/12/17 12:31 AM
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everyone with a brain knew what was going on from the getgo. I remember seeing the news and thinking that it woudn't last and she'd buck him fo his loot. Lo and behold, I was right
/r/MGTOW16/12/17 12:29 AM
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lol yeah not sure how that makes him a bitter clown tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 01:04 PM
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I dunno what you were expecting on a normal sub lol. But yeah, youre not wrong
/r/MGTOW14/12/17 08:21 AM
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this 'experiment' just seems redundant tbh. If the population of homeless is disproportionately male, that should tell you everything you need to know in regards to male disposability.
/r/MGTOW13/12/17 11:25 AM
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elaborate with some examples if you dont mind. Im genuiniely curious as to what these flaws are
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 08:34 AM
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the fact that she responds with 'how dare someone say these things about me' and not 'hmmm what am i doing wrong here, could it be that i'm giving off weird vibes and need to work on my behavior?' is all you need to know. She, like many women out there, is unable to recognize that the problem is likely her. This critical lack of self-awareness is a huge issue as these snowflakes graduate college; they've been around so many yes-men/women their entire lives which has prevented them having an accu…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 08:28 AM
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lol gotta love this kinda shit. I'll admit this goes both ways though-i've literally seen guys ditch out on girls when they got in shape
/r/MGTOW13/12/17 05:46 AM
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is anyone denying that though? The point is that these apps have contributed to the degeneracy that has led to men needing to go mgtow. You can use it in a cynical sense, but the fact remains
/r/MGTOW13/12/17 04:47 AM
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literally worked a week and a half of full shifts this year whilst under the weather. Took ephedrine and other things and trucked along
/r/MGTOW12/12/17 11:44 AM
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right and that's fine and understandable, seeing as how those are personal lifestyle choices. Height not being a changeable thing makes it much, much worse
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 11:43 AM
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I love how sexism like this can be published in major media outlets and no one says anything
/r/MGTOW12/12/17 11:42 AM
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are we seriously going to argue about weight vs height? No one is trying to say losing weight is fun or easy, but it's DOABLE, and may people DO IT EVERYDAY. Many more keep it off before its a problem. With height, there is nothing you can do
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 11:29 AM
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yep. It'll never happen though. I know of guys that have fallen for some disgusting pussy over the years, so my faith is lacking
/r/MGTOW12/12/17 11:12 AM
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yeah it's a ridiculous double standard. Women get ot break free of their traditional gender roles whilst men are still beholden to them.
/r/MGTOW12/12/17 11:11 AM
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lol i love 50, he never gives a flying fuck on his social media.
/r/MGTOW12/12/17 11:03 AM
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I hate comparing weight, which is something that you can control, with an unchangeable trait like height.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 10:49 AM
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youre making too much sense
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 06:16 AM
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lol this is a question that should be posed to most bluepillers tbh. It seems that they've never met women that engage in bad behavior, or rather, if a woman does engage in bad behavior, it's the fault of men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 02:49 AM
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i feel bad for the dude but he's ultimately misguided. He'll never find what he's looking for with his condition, and thatsucks, but at least were honest about that here
/r/MGTOW11/12/17 01:04 PM
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it's fucking bullshit. Just because the actions of bad men tend to manifest themselves in louder and more violent ways, doesn't mean there are more bad men than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 10:50 PM
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this is shameless as fuck
/r/MGTOW10/12/17 12:00 AM
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how many guys in jail are bright, I wonder if this consideration ever crossed a judge's mind for them
/r/MGTOW07/12/17 11:26 PM
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what a joke of a society. Women are positively shameless
/r/MGTOW07/12/17 11:22 PM
1

lol seriously. the guys you see that are successful are clearly not representative of the lonely group
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/12/17 12:56 PM
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what a fucking idiot
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/12/17 12:54 PM
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lol, basically waht every man has had to deal with their entire lives. It's amazing to me how entitled women are
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/12/17 12:38 PM
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i have known multiple women in that age bracket that have slept with guys twice their age. You'd be VERY surprised
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/12/17 12:37 PM
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yeah that really tells us all we have to know and highlights the problems inherent to her selection process. She's entitled and thinks she deserves a top value guy, but fails to realize she's not good enough to get those guys to commit. Let's be honest - if you're an attractive girl that's at least somewhat pleasant, you can find a guy that will love the ever loving shit out of you. Not only can you find that guy, but there are MANY options available to you if youre not a total cunt. The problem…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/12/17 12:26 PM
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notice how she specifies 'my EQUAL'. Hmmmmmm I wonder if the problem is her selection process and over-inflated self image. You know what they say : when everyone around you is an asshole, the common denominator is u
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/12/17 12:22 PM
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all the shit she's mad about men doing are things women do ten fold
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/12/17 12:21 PM
1

lol nice
/r/MGTOW07/12/17 11:11 AM
1

what a stupid fucker. He even got into decently good shape for the second vid while shes still fat and aging. Find another woman if you must goddamn
/r/MGTOW07/12/17 11:07 AM
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I guess man. I really don't think you can blame the effects tindr has on hypergamy ALL on feminism. Nor can you say feminism is solely responsible for the increased levels of narcissism shit like insta and other social media apps promote. Some of it is just humans using technology irresponsibly and not having the self awareness ot realize it's unhealthy in the long run
/r/MGTOW07/12/17 10:26 AM
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THIS. Guys, you HAVE to realize that there are truly unprecedented times in a lot of ways. There is no precedent for things like tindr and snapcaht. The changes that are being wrought via this technology are brand new and there are a lot of unknowns still
/r/MGTOW07/12/17 09:43 AM
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ill admit taht the internet as a whole wasn't the main issue. Hell, I remember when fb first came out it hadn't wrought that many negative changes. You're right, it's the smartphones coupeld with internet that ended up being the REAL issue I'd say things really changed for the worst around 2011 or so
/r/MGTOW07/12/17 09:29 AM
2

I think online dating has dwarfed all other places where people would traditionally meet tbh.
/r/MGTOW07/12/17 08:13 AM
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yeah smart phones and the apps associated with them have destroyed social dynamics and were only starting to figure that out as a society. It sucks man, i'm not even that old but I remember when things were much, much different
/r/MGTOW07/12/17 07:57 AM
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dude if you think hypergamy and narcissism weren't exacerbated 100 fold by the internet and smart phones, I just don't know what to tell you. If common observation isn't enough, we have research being published that points to this being true. Feminism was the initial push, but technology was responsible for catapulting all of this to unsustainable levels. Have you ever looked at the phone of an average girl? Literally dozens of guys hitting her up on snap, insta, fb, tindr, bumble...fuck you nam…
/r/MGTOW07/12/17 07:52 AM
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I think it's more than just p/cism and feminism, although that most definitely plays a part. What I think is most responsible is the internet and smartphones, and how that has fundamentally changed the social landscape, imo for the worse. Think about the effects that facebook, instagram, tindr, and snap chat have had on the minds and behaviors of people, ESPECIALLY women. There are so many things wrong with these things and it's getting hard ot deny it. That isn't to say the don't have their use…
/r/MGTOW07/12/17 07:24 AM
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this. How many of hte top contributers are always on? It always seems like they disappear for many weeks at a time in between majore posts, sometimes longer. I think this is more projection
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 03:30 AM
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I couldn't disagree more. For one, I work a job where I have A LOT of downtime, so reddit really helps me kill time without being bored to death. Also, I don't really see what you're talking about. A lot of major contributors post and then they're gone for weeks at a time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 03:29 AM
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if only more men were this realsitic and brutal to these fat, entitled cunts. It might force them to have a shred of humility and know their place. Men need to bring these hos down a peg
/r/MGTOW06/12/17 11:24 AM
1

seriously.
/r/MGTOW06/12/17 08:31 AM
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Commenting on a woman's dating choices is always a bad idea ime. Even if youre 110 percent correct and she's a total thot homewrecker, commenting on it is a good way to never get access to her pussy lol. I really don't see what outcome can be expected here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 01:07 PM
1

there used to be social controls and repercussions associated with infidelity, but that is a long time in the past. Now a woman can get away with murder and suffers little to no consequences. The culture we currently have is extremely degenerate, make no mistake my friend
/r/MGTOW05/12/17 12:56 PM
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ok maybe that was a poor choice of words, but i would say it exacerbated it to unsustainable levels. Demonizing masculinity and the male sex drive has led to a society where men are not trusted around children/younger girls/teens/women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 05:23 AM
1

fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 04:47 AM
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lol I feel like that hardly refutes what i'm saying. So yeah, i guess there is a niche for men in the educational system, and that's in the jobs most educators don't want to do for their entire career. I have mad respect for him opting to do that though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 04:37 AM
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i duno try to refute it in good faith, that's what this place is about, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 04:36 AM
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yeah, sure, but the issue being raised here is the myth of women lacking in shallow attributes, when that coudln't be further from the truth. We don't even have to focus on the supreme idiots with good looks to make this point, but rather focus how a woman will overlook glaring flaws on an attractive guy vs. a less attractive one. It doesn't have to neccesarily be low iq, it could be mental illness, behavioral tics/flaws, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 01:45 AM
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yes. The demonization of men has led to that situation
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 12:41 AM
1

lol good response
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 12:39 AM
1

well the ideology has created a hostile environment for men in education, so yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 12:39 AM
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for, typo
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 12:39 AM
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oh yes 'theyre the WRONG type of girls' argument. lol you'd be surprised
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 12:37 AM
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i'm referring to your condescending and dismissive comment in regards to his statement. While he phrased it poorly, he's not entirely wrong in suspecting there are 'sinister' motives at work. Just because you don't find anything sininster about it doesn't detract from the reality. When I look at the state of boys in education and the lack of men entering colleges, I can't help but feel feminism, and women, have failed them. A lack of male role models in the educational system is terrible for boy…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 03:19 PM
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well since they want to make absolutely no concessions to men in this area of life, it's resulting in a lot of women having to go at it alone or settle for a low quality mate theyre not attracted to. It's not ideal
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 03:17 PM
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um ok? never said anything to the contrary. I was merely stating that certain types of status don't carry much weight when it comes to attraction. edit: and the primary reason for highlighting that was to explain that status alone won't always make up for other factors (ie game and looks). However, certain types of status will make up for areas you may be lacking. I've known some real nasty fuck head musicians that have been able to get laid on that and that alone. Just how it is
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 03:15 PM
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with how rapidly feminist women have infiltrated and dominated teh educatoinal system, you have to be delusional as fuck to think there aren't agendas being pushed on our youth. Come on now. It might not seem sinister to you because you agree with it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 12:28 PM
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their mentality is hurting women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 12:26 PM
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that's awfully convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 12:26 PM
1

you have ot realize that you're an EXTREME outlier here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 12:21 PM
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lol i wish you could meet my friend that's on gear. Total fucking idiot that works in a factory with no further aspirations in life, yet because he's muscular as all fuck and handsome he can literally message girls 'wanna fuck' on tindr and get more responses than he can handle. I've seen it. At any given time he has like 8 girls on rotation. Meanwhile, I have firends grossing six figures that havent been laid in a long, long time
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 12:06 PM
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yeah like I stated above, status matters, but certain types aren't going to give you that much of an edge if youre not controlling ofr other factors. Making a low six figures as a tech nerd won't do much if your game and looks suck. Meanwhile, a handsome bartender in a popular bar or a musician in a local rock band will be slaying, even though they make far less than the tech nerd.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 12:05 PM
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status matters but it really depends on the type of status. A guy in a popular local rock band or a celebrity is the kind of status that gets girls wet. A gangly ass techie dude grossing six figures isn't going to outcompete the sexy bartender or fireman down teh street.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 12:02 PM
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i don't even get how people deny this lol. They see one or two cases that buck the trend and go 'well see, see?! looks arent everything!'. No shit they're not ,but it's the difference between playing life on hard mode vs extremely easy. Every guy I knew that dropped serious weight, started engaging in fitness, and grooming well was able to find success with women theyre attrated to. I mean there are other factors but assuming you're not socially incompetent or autistic, those are probably the bi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 12:00 PM
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I don't know you. You might have been a borderline autistic person before, or you might have genetics that still hold you back, or a combination of both. For most guys, i've found that as soon as they dropped weight and focused on their aesthetic, they were having no trouble roping in women. Looks arent everything, but most guys are socially competent enough where they can succeed if they have their shit together physically
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 11:57 AM
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most of it comes down to better grooming and physical fitness tbh. A LOT of guys would be shocked at how their problems with women would disappear over night if they controlled for these things. I mean dont get me wrong-some guys lack game and personality and have to improve on that, but ime it doesnt' take much if you look and feel good. Modern dating advice tends to focus too much on the other aspects when it's the superficial that is fucking over guys. And no I dont care that there is that on…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 11:53 AM
2

pretty much true of most women lol
/r/MGTOW04/12/17 09:54 AM
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you'd have to be in utter denal to pretend red pill tactics dont work. Every guy I know that is a 'natural alpha' utilizes the tactics outlined there, likely unconsciously but still.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 03:11 AM
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i dunno man, some people don't change but I know of a lot of people that have underwent intense transformations, both physical and mental.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 02:50 AM
2

good post
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 02:49 AM
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LOL
/r/MGTOW01/12/17 12:24 AM
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i never said it was objective truth, thinking in terms of 'objectively' eventually leads to nihilism and a justification of any and all behaviors though. Everyone i've known that utilizes this argument does it in a self-serving manner, usually to justify behavior that is deleterious to themselves and the people around them. Just my two cents
/r/MGTOW01/12/17 12:14 AM
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lol remember when everyone called this out for what it was? pepperidge farm remembers
/r/MGTOW01/12/17 12:01 AM
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yeah fuck greater society and the health of the communities you live in and benefit from lol. Your mentality is precisely the problem and the reason for al ot of poor outcomes out there
/r/MGTOW30/11/17 11:15 PM
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elaborate
/r/MGTOW30/11/17 01:04 PM
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lol yeah good luck communicating that to these selfish, narcissistic twats. They value hedonistic pleasure over any concerns for the greater whole, that much is certain.
/r/MGTOW30/11/17 12:06 PM
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lol yeah, withhold sex during his time of need, a time where he could use it the most. Fucking women man.
/r/MGTOW30/11/17 11:55 AM
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I don't even understand how these people can reconcile a decidedly conservative institution like marriage with liberal mindsets regarding sex and relationships. It just boggles the mind. Why would it be surprising that marriage is incompatible with being a mega slut? Seems fucking obvious to me if you examine the principles governing marriage
/r/MGTOW30/11/17 11:50 AM
1

lol so true
/r/MGTOW30/11/17 11:48 AM
1

if that makes you feel better then ok lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 07:02 AM
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hilariously, a lot of guys that do this end up being rejected, while high value guys that stand back and let hte slags compete over them, end up reaping signfiicant benefits.
/r/MensRights28/11/17 11:57 PM
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yeah except they only gave a shit when their participation in it was being discussed
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 11:28 PM
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she's well versed in the art of double-think. Brainwashed beyond believe, i'd abort. I love her assertion that because no one has been drafted in 40 years, that it coudln't happen again. 40 years is a drop in the bucket as far as human history is concerned. You can bet yoru ass she'd still pitch a fit if she had to sign it, hypocrtie to the end
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 11:21 PM
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god just admit feminists dont give a shti about the draft and that most of the loudest ones actively oppose it. Stop operating in your fantasy world
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 11:20 PM
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Just because some feminists have championed the cause of drafting women, doesn't mean that most of them are not wholly against it. The backlash to it has overshadowed the few instances where it was supported. Furthermore, the fact that women are still exempt from the draft this many decades after the 'liberationz' of women is pretty damn telling
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 11:13 PM
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were deviating from the topic considerably now. He specified feminine and unattractive. Of course attractive people have no problems in life when ti comes to women, feminine or not
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 11:11 PM
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the only time i've seen feminine men be successful with women is when they have status for some reason or another. Usually it's because they're a musician, sometimes it's that they have access to drugs and/or deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 11:09 PM
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I think looks and status are your best bet if it's obtainable, assuming you're at least somewhat competent socially. I know way too many good looking guys that get laid with little game.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 11:05 PM
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address what I said and explain how that isn't thinking of people in terms of quality. Or i'm going to assume youre a troll. I never said that people label them as having no redeemable qualitiies, but when ti comes to dating, they certainly categorize them as too low quality for them to date, even if evertyhing else is perfect. Seen it a billion times
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 11:03 PM
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it's clear you've made no effort to read much on trp, at least the stuff that is written by the top level contributors and endorsed posters.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 11:03 PM
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probably not, but that's why I answered it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 11:02 PM
3

straight hypocrisy. This ugly slag cunt has been spouting hate for ages, as have many other users, and twitter is conspicuously silent. Yet they ban milo and others lol,
/r/MGTOW28/11/17 02:14 PM
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what would be the point of lying lol? A lot of us (myself included), loved women and wanted to have a real life with one. We all got fucking raped, some worse than others. I have no doubt we have some incels here, but fuck whatever with that said, shes not entirely wrong that men need sexual satisfaction and that raising a kid is a biological imperative, but they're not giving a lot of us a real choice here ,are they?
/r/MGTOW28/11/17 02:10 PM
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i thnk the issue is that bloops often take the moral highground. Mean people are bad no matter what form they take, but self-righteous mean people are most definitely teh worst lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 02:06 PM
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does it though? TRP encourages self responsbility A LOT more than most ideologies i've seen; feminism certainly doesn't advocate for that level of self-responsibility, self-reliance, and acceptance of reality. TRP always has encouraged men to accept reality instead of bitching about it, or pretending that it will change to suit them. It's prescriptive 'manifestations' encourage heavy lifting, quality grooming, furthering your career, and improving your mental process and behaviors to a degree th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 02:02 PM
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yeah, I really loathe the trend of blue pillers going 'lol youre just autistic, you shoduln't have listened to everyone in your life, the media, and whatever the fuck else! It should be obvious!'. Well clearly it wasn't for a lot of men, and we can guess as to what the variables/circumstances/contexts were that resulted in these sub-optimal outcomes, but it doesn't really fucking matter at the end of the day. A lot of men didn't get it, and they got burned, sometimes really bad, and places like …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 01:53 PM
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although the particulars and circumstances may be different, it's remarkable how many men can share a similar story. Some hop back on and make the same mistakes again, while others go mgtow lol. After you've been burned and burned bad 1-2 times, it's really fucking hard to ever believe in any of that shite again. The modern woman isn't virtuous nor does she see us as anything but disposable utilities, to be discarded when it's convenient. With that said, i'm sure there are good women out there, …
/r/MGTOW28/11/17 01:41 PM
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are you daft? Everything i've outlined has been said by people ive known throughout time, women and men. I'm sorry but if you reject someone because of their attractiveness or status and confide that in me, you're basically saying they're too low quality for you. You're delusional if you think it means anything else
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 01:17 PM
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Just because people don't explicitly state it in those terms, doesn't mean that they arent' basically saying it lol. I mean wtf how else would you construe what I outlined? Clearly they feel these people are low quality, and actively exclude them in the worst cases
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 10:45 AM
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that people judge each other and determine their relative value (based on subjective criteria) all the fucking time? You're making it sound lke there is no categorization going on, when it happens even within friend groups
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 09:39 AM
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it's crazy when you think about the girls you were ready to settle with who just fucked us over. My standards were never even that fucking high, I was willing to tolerate quite a bit (looking back, I tolerated FAR too much bullshit tbh) from women that were only decently attractive (ie not fat, ok face etc). It's unbelievable how shitty women are now. were literally just disposable utilities for them to use and discard whenever it's convenient. It's hard not to hate women i swear to christ
/r/MGTOW28/11/17 09:12 AM
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you're not wrong, but I can't blame the pump n dumpers any. Men want to fuck and if women are gonna give it up so easily (to some men), then that's on the woman not the man. Market demand etc. As for betas, well I have sympathy for some of them, but the turbo white knights that will never relent are worthless and imo, far worse than any woman could be. Spineless, useful idiots that are not even usually getting much in terms of pussy anyways.
/r/MGTOW28/11/17 09:08 AM
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most def.
/r/MGTOW28/11/17 08:56 AM
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yep, no good reason for it. after 2-3 years, engagement is a very reasonable thing to expect
/r/MGTOW28/11/17 08:56 AM
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even if that is the reason, it's a poor reason. 1. he clearly doesn't care seeing as how he proposed 12 plus times in a 7 year period. and 2. Even if that's the case, getting engaged is symbolic rather than legally binding. If you don't want to get married right away, you don't have to, but it displays that you intend to and that you're truly committed to this person (in theory). I honestly dont see how her rejecting it was anything but a red flag.
/r/MGTOW28/11/17 08:54 AM
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most definitely. Someone above said something about debt, but the major problem with that logic is that he proposed a dozen fucking times. This means he clearly doesn't care about that. Furthermore, if were gonna run with something like that (quite the stretch), we have to consider that getting engaged doesn't mean you have to get married yet. It's just a symbolic display of your committment. A woman not going through with it after 3 or more years is a HUGE RED FLAG. I know of people that got en…
/r/MGTOW28/11/17 08:52 AM
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Ok for the record all examples i'm going to state are from living in a liberal city (one of the more liberal places in the US) : 1. i've heard women reject a guy on the basis of class more than a dozen times eg 'hes great and all but he works in a FACTORY, or I don't see him having ambition etc 2. Men and women commenting on the sluttiness of a woman, refusing to date or take them seriously in most matters 3. He has a great job/personality but I cant get over how UGLY he is All things ive heard …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 08:47 AM
1

yes they do
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 08:45 AM
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I coudln't disagree more. I knew people that expressed such notions LONG before I even knew what trp/mgtow/purplepill was. From women and men. Everything from shaming based on class to slutshaming (both men adn women do this).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 08:45 AM
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ime, it usually means the girl puts out a lot lol. Women slut shame HARD. And yes, liberal women do this as well. Not all but quite a few
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 08:44 AM
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it's not sexist to be straightforward but you have to handle it with some degree of social tact and competence. Now, if you're extremely attractive for whatever reason and ooze status, you can get away with QUITE A BIT. Make no mistake, the rules are different depending on who you are, but that doesn't mean you can't work your way into it. You just have to be more subtle and smooth.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 08:42 AM
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no I have friends taht have gone to jail over fights and/or been permanently damaged from them. You're just low class trash, admit it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 06:28 AM
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this is a truth that society doesnt want to come to terms with. Feminists certainly have no answer to it, and they're going to learn a harsh lesson over the next few decades i think
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 05:43 AM
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if it were up to her, they'd just shut up and accept their lot in life. Probably serve ppl like her as orbiters. Women really have no incentive to support men in these endeavors lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 05:38 AM
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they're not really wrong though lol. We can argue that they should have learned the truth or been more perceptive, but I can't say they're wrong in that they received a lot of mixed signals and outright bullshit throughout their lives, especially if they were overly nice and/or unattractive. fuck, at least trp has a point unlike feminists who like to blame all tehir faults and lack of self-responsbility on nebulous, external forces that either dont exit, or exist in a manner that is far detached…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 05:37 AM
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lol right
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 05:35 AM
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yeah it's so unreasonable that men like to avoid fights, an activity that often results in serious injury and death, not to mention legal repercussions that can stay with you for life. Lol youre a twat
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 05:21 AM
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lol it's scary these psychopaths are raising children. In the comments, one of the posters is bragging about how her teenage daughter (14!) is having sex and how she lets her make her own decisions. Holy shit like, I get not being overly stifling and controlling and allowing some things to happen organically, but there has to be some instilling of morality if you want your kids to turn out alright. Every girl I knew that was allowed to do whatever the fuck she wanted in her early years ended up …
/r/MensRights28/11/17 04:33 AM
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very few people can pretend the blue pill is reality. As they often say on red pill, "you don't usually find the red pill, it finds you'. For the vast majority of men, this will always be the case. Only the most brainwashed ideologues can deny it when it's evident in every aspectd of life
/r/MGTOW28/11/17 04:27 AM
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because they lack a real understanding and empathy of what men face. A lot of them are women which makes it even worse
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 03:48 AM
1

that last sentence is gold and it makes me happy to see that sentiment because it's simple but true
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 03:35 AM
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seriously. How many men do you know that truly have choices at all times with attractive women? And how many of those men can do it somewhat effortlessly? I know of maybe 2-3 men that I can say live that lifestyle, and it's obvious from a trp perspective why that's the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 03:32 AM
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imagine guys talking like that around women at work. Unbelievable
/r/MGTOW28/11/17 03:09 AM
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what a stupid cunt lol. I love how she talks about it like men should be ok with that idea, like fuck off you slaggy cunt
/r/MGTOW27/11/17 08:41 AM
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yeah becasue were your literal servants
/r/MGTOW27/11/17 08:21 AM
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it's a fucking troll. I mean her name is' disney princess 93'...come on guys
/r/MGTOW27/11/17 03:55 AM
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fucking slags the lot of em
/r/MGTOW27/11/17 01:35 AM
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Ill never understand why people feel bad for pornstars. They make bank and no one, and I mean NO ONE, is forcing them to do this shit. IME, girls that enter sex work ie stripping, porn, cam whores, etc are just fucking lazy and want to make a lot of money whilst putting in the least amount of work. Honestly, showing sympathy to sex workers is an actual fcuking disservice to the women that forego such work in order ot preserve their dignity, often taking shittier jobs that pay much, much less. Li…
/r/MGTOW26/11/17 08:34 PM
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seriously...who the fuck would stay with a woman that denies him marriage OVER SEVEN FUCKING YEARS!? I could see 2-3, maybe, but 7 years is a long fucking time for someone not to commit to you fully. I can't think of one good fucking reason as to why she wouldn't
/r/MGTOW26/11/17 08:29 PM
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a dozen times lol? Over 7 fucking years? Christ man
/r/MGTOW26/11/17 08:28 PM
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yeah he is a real piece of work. Always hostile
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 08:25 PM
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I see it a lot in the younger generation but yeah maybe it's the crowds I keep
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 08:36 AM
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I dont really care if it's like 10-12, i mean we all have our moments when were young. Every girl I knew that was like 25-30 plus before 25 were basket cases though
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 01:10 AM
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I really want to visit the world where mega sluts don't have issues and/or where they make good, reliable, and trusting partners. I'm serious. It's so contrary to what i've seen in my time. Even most well -adjusted women i've known have agreed on this
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 12:45 AM
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having a handful of partners isn't a big deal, but if it's like 30 plus before theyre 25 (ive known girls with even higher than that tbh) is a little disconcerting. I've never met a girl with an n count that high that was well adjusted and relationship material. At some point it's deleterious to who they are, or at least indicative of major issues. Jsut my two cents based on experience
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 12:38 AM
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yeah to realize the error of your ways would require introspection and an actual sense of self awareness. I'm probably asking for too much here
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/17 11:19 PM
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nah it was answered correctly. I'm agreeing with you so not sure why the hostility
/r/MensRights24/11/17 11:17 PM
1

I wouldn't say I 'liked it' from a lot of the chicks in question, but what are you gonna do? Make a scene? People will think you're nuts. The double standard is real and men are penalized for calling it out, make no mistake
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/17 12:53 PM
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probably within 4-6 months. Dont overdo deadlifts though, because you can get injured pretty badly. After a certain point, I think the benefits of going higher vs. the potential risks of injury aren't worth it.
/r/MGTOW24/11/17 12:52 PM
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it's very common and a lot of guys dont' revel in it nor enjoy it. I know of a few 'chad-like' dudes that have committed relationships or wives and they don't like being touched every where they go. And yeah, if you make a stink abouti t or bring it up people brush you off, so it's not like there is much recourse to be had
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/17 09:27 AM
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so fucking common. As in, happens every minute of every day common. I'm not even close to being a hot guy and i've been groped and harrassed more than a handful of times in the past 3-4 months lol. Attractive friends of mine? Jesus all the fucking time
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/17 09:02 AM
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ok like, being contrarian for the sake of being so is annoying. You know damn well what he's talking about. Of course it's context dependent to an extent
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/17 08:55 AM
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lol dude, i started lifting in my late 20s and i can put up 405 on deadlift like 5x5. And ive only lifted a year. 20s are fine unless youre trying to be an olympic athlete
/r/MGTOW24/11/17 06:55 AM
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I once knew a woman that 'tried' to kill herself, and her method was taking a couple adderall, a handful of vitamins, and a few tablets of cold medicine. LOL
/r/MensRights24/11/17 01:19 AM
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ding ding ding. The hamstering you see from people about differences in 'socialization' leading to different methods of sucicide and other such drivel is ridiculous. Call a spade a spade
/r/MensRights24/11/17 01:18 AM
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this is always trotted out as a way to undermine or diminish how bad the actual discrepancy is and it makes me sick. A lot of women do it for attention because they stand gain support from it, whilst a man doing it for attention stands to lose a lot, at least as far as social capital is concerned. I've seen it time and time again, these 'suicide attempts' by women and the subsequent attention and outpouring of support they receive. I mean really, do you think women are so stupid that they cannot…
/r/MensRights24/11/17 01:15 AM
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dude what are you talking about right now? all of those women could find a guy if they adjusted their standards in a realistic fashion. You're basically sad that they cant net a chad.
/r/MGTOW23/11/17 10:06 AM
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seriously, most good women found a good man early on. There are extenuating circumstances that could be understandable, but for the most part these girls passed up a lot of guys nad likely fucked over quite a few men in their time. Period.
/r/MGTOW23/11/17 08:51 AM
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lol for real. feel pity, but crying and losing sleep? Dude sounds liek a pussy
/r/MGTOW23/11/17 08:50 AM
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I mean it IS sad, but it's hard to give a fuck when a lot of these women manipulated and used men their entire lives. They did this to themselves. But lol youre crying over it? Man get a grip
/r/MGTOW23/11/17 08:47 AM
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honestly, why the fuck is your beta friend putting up with this loser, ahem chad, living in his place?
/r/MGTOW22/11/17 07:58 AM
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the definitions are fucking stupid and self-serving is the problem. Within the confines of the definitions you use, the only 'toxic femininity' that can ever be discussed are behaviors that are dictated by the patriarchy. Good job on using insults though, that really bolsters your argument
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 07:07 AM
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basically lol. I mean some of the beats sound pretty chill, but that's about it. I listen to a lot of hip hop/rap, new and old, and this is one subgenre I cannot get into. Maybe when I was 16 it'd resonate
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 03:26 AM
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I dunno im not a chad and ive been there more than once and it is kind of sobering. The way he phrased it was kinda cringey but I can't help but relate to it a bit
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 01:42 AM
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yeah it's infuriating and akin to banging your head against a wall tbh. You can't win
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 01:12 AM
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seriously, I hear this all the time and it blows my mind. Most of the recipients of this sort of thing are hardly deserving of a quality mate ime. Why do you deserve anything really? What have you done? These are both questions women and really anyone should ask themselves from time to time
/r/MGTOW22/11/17 12:53 AM
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ignoring the very real possibility that this slut cheated on him, lying to your fucking FIANCE/FUTURE HUSBAND is a pretty grievous offense. If you don't have trust then what's the point?
/r/MGTOW22/11/17 12:52 AM
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this is precisely the issue I have with bloops whenever this sort of thing comes up. They are literally incapable of admitting or realizing that there are trends/negative behaviors that are unique to women. Whenever they do acknowledge something negative, it is blamed on men and the patriarchy. In the end, they only believe in masculinity and the negative behaviors associated with it. Women are kind of absolved of any blame
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 12:16 AM
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so basically you can only criticize female behavior if said behavior can be blamed on men and the patriarchy? Are there no trends in female behavior that women should take responsibility for? This is an issue I always have with bloops on here. Meanwhile, it's totally ok to generalize men and blame the nebulous patriarchy for everything wrong with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 12:14 AM
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lol ill never understand this kind of rap. I try but I think i'm getting too old or something
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 11:55 PM
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dude that's very defeatist. if you're good enough looking to reliably get matches, that's a GOOD SIGN. Just don't act like a total mcfly and you'll get something. Drink a few if you have to
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 03:33 PM
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right, but it's kind of a no win situation from the guy's perspective thoguh. I'll tell you what, I can think of several instances of cheating where the girl met the guy online, or at the very least, facilitated cheating with someone they met irl via that avenue. It's hard not to feel a bit paranod
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 11:29 AM
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damn get me some of that dex. hard to find that stateside
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 11:10 AM
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this idea almost deserves its own post tbh. I mean how many men truly have an abundance of options which allow them to be overly discerning? I've seen fairly decent men put up with a TON of shit from women, up to and including severe mental disorders. I've never seen a chad put up with that much shit
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 11:03 AM
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stoics have been saying this for thousands of years as well. IIRC, CBT was based on stoic principles and practices, at least in part
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 10:55 AM
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yup. which is why I don't understand how people are saying that they just control the usage of social media without being seen as insecure or controlling. It sounds like an ideal state but I really don't see how you can implement that in practice, but maybe if youre 'high value' enouhg you can? i dunno
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 10:53 AM
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the problem with women today is that if you offer ultimatums like that or try to police their usage of social media/apps, you end up being framed as the bad guy and it can be a real attraction killer. Not sure how viable a strategy this is
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 04:51 AM
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lol it really is like this though. It always seems like something you want til you have it
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 11:53 PM
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In a Pew Research Center survey from August, 56% of Americans said their family’s income was falling behind the cost of living, up from 44% in September 2007 — just before the recession hit. More than a third (37%) of Americans in the latest poll said their family’s income was staying about even with inflation; only 5% said they were staying ahead of inflation. that sounds pretty bad, no? And what note?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 09:45 PM
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how do we account for research that points to THIS then? http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/10/09/for-most-workers-real-wages-have-barely-budged-for-decades/
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 01:57 PM
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I haven't seen any data that inspires faith about wages keeping up with COL and inflation. Prove me wrong? Furthermore, I never said that the service/gig economy thing is wholly new, but you cannot pretend it isn't a worrying trend. We have lost and continue to lose jobs that are stable and well paying in favor of unstable, part time jobs that often lack benefits and consistent hours. I really don't get how you can brush this off when it's a real issue nationwide
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 10:55 AM
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lol it's called working for a living
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 06:33 AM
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but looks dont matter lol
/r/MGTOW20/11/17 06:24 AM
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maybe i should haha. I have thought about TX tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 12:38 AM
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paranoid mofo
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 12:38 AM
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more specific?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 11:24 PM
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what industry are you in? im not sure how valuable your insights are if they're wholly within the niche of your particular industry
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 10:36 PM
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i know that, but im telling you the median household income is kinda shit for a country as rich as ours. You have to understand that without robust social safety nets it's pretty fucked for a lot of people ,especially if they rack up high hospital bills, have loans, have a mortgage on a house, and a family. Furthermore, our public transit SUCKS, so you basically need a car in most regions, which is a lot of added cost in maintenance, gas, insurance, and whatever other costs arise from it. The US…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 10:12 PM
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meh. there is a lot of poverty in the US and a lack of decent social safety nets. I think you might be looking at this with a european lens. It's not easy to save if you're not making enough money, period
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 10:02 PM
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true that. But yea watch how defensive people get when you question social media or dating apps, irl or online. It's kind of hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 10:00 PM
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and by 'hustling', do you mean dealing drugs? If so, I cannot comment on someone that engages in the blackmarket because i'm sure that is lucrative as all get out for obvious reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 09:59 PM
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my point about the savings bullshit is a lot of people cannot save more than that. They aren't making enough money and they're saddled with debt. they also have to contend with rising costs of living, especially as it pertains to rent. I dunno man you're just wrong. I see you're uk though, so it might be a tad different. You guys have more social safety nets and the college debt issue isn't as glaring there
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 09:57 PM
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what kinds of jobs? I never said there are no jobs, but there aren't that many good jobs. This varies in severity depending on the region though
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 09:55 PM
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yeah quoting a fucking rapper is going to discredit what i'm saying. And I never said automation is a serious threat to shitty ass service jobs lol. It IS a threat to well paying, stabler jobs. I'm genuinely curious as to what you do for a living. You say you will be able to buy a car/house in the near future, so I can't help but think you're fairly privileged
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 09:42 PM
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It always blows my mind when people defend apps like tindr and pretend there are no deleterious effects associated with their use. Utter denial imo
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 09:26 PM
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i'm sorry but you're just further proving you have a shitty grasp on the reality of things. People are not just frivolously whining about nonexistent shit man; automatoin, off shoring/off sourcing, and H1B are real issues that are resulting in the loss of A LOT of jobs. this is only going to worse over time. Furthermore, wages are still insanely depressed and not keeping up with inflation and rising costs of living. While there are still jobs being created, most of them are unstable and primaril…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 09:23 PM
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wtf is the point of this comment? We have data on the jobs available and it's clear that a lot of people are getting fucked. Just because you're doing ok doesn't change the reality. There are not enough good jobs to go around, and it's getting worse by the day. To say that people are not making any 'attempts' to get better work than retail is pretty ignorant
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 09:05 PM
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well then stop avoiding it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 04:40 PM
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wtf are you talking about? You use a shot gun method to get as many matches as possible, then you select what matches look like they could go anywhere and discard the rest. It's not hard ot understand
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 12:29 PM
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yeah but what's stopping you from cutting through the bullshit and being more direct from the get go? million dollar question
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 10:34 AM
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right but we all explained it lol. Furthermore, you have been here for so long so you must have an idea as to the trials and tribulations an average guy goes through in the smp. Im not attacking you but it's kidn of jaring that you're acting shocked lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 01:58 AM
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wait what? You're only casting a wide net during the initial steps, ie swiping. After you get your matches in, you can be more discerning and discard whoever looks terrible/would never work. That's the strategy. It's a lot more time efficient and likely to garner positive results than being overly discerning from the get go (assuming youre not a high ass value male)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 01:47 AM
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Blues are also delusional in their definition of 'acceptable women' anyways. How many women do you know, regardless of background and group affiliation, that truly do not partake in alcohol and/or drugs? I mean seriously? How many women out there are not engaging in casual sex with strangers or people they meet on tindr? Blues always argue about these exceptions to the rule, or unicorns, which leads me to believe that some of them are just weirdos and shouldn't be listened to. Saying the women i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 01:35 AM
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I mean, you're on ppd all the time and have discussed the smp with men of all sorts for how long now? You truly don't have any idea how dating is for the average guy? I dunno, it doesn't take that much empathy and insight to understand why a normal ass dude is forced to take a shot-gun approach when it comes to dating. I think if you look at a lot of men in your own life you'd see this as well
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 01:30 AM
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