what is the endgame of MGTOW? is there any or is it just riding the tide of nihilism? Im not saying modern women arent trash but what is your/our strategy?

cashmoney_x · 2017-02-08T23:42:24+00:00

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DigitalScetis · 2017-02-09T04:07:22+00:00

To enjoy the simple, good things that go forgotten.

Probably the most interesting part of Hoellebecq's Submission is how François relates eating as a sensual pleasure not unlike sex.

Part of the problem with our current order of things is how much we deny our multitude of physical pleasures (sleep, food, sight, hearing and so on) for the sake of pursuing one (sex).

We can't cook because we work. We work so we can buy things and shoot selfies in an attempt to make us interesting enough to have sex with. We sell our acquired interesting-ness by spending money going out to clubs until late at night. We do not sleep. We eat out of the microwave.

And far too many of us do those things and get far too little sex and intimacy for the sensual pleasures given up.

For example, I have found how cheap, and how good it is to cook good food, French bistro-level faire, food that makes you feel alive and well...

Carrots are cheap.

Meat is cheap.

Onions are cheap.

Flour and sugar are cheap.

Celery is cheap.

Herbs and spices are cheap.

Cheese and cream are cheap.

Wine is cheap...if you are just wanting the flavor and not wanting to impress your friends.

Take all that stuff together, a stock pot, skillet, an oven, a range, a sink, a knife, and a cutting board, and you can create some of the best food you ever tasted, cheaper than you could possibly imagine. No preservatives. No chemicals. None of that plastic and marketing department you have to pay for.

And you can do it all--every day of your life--if you just spend your evenings doing that then spending your evenings working unpaid overtime so you can impress women on Tinder which will never sleep with you.

2017-02-08T23:14:48+00:00

I guess it's different for all of us isn't it. Figure out what makes you happy and do it.

2017-02-09T01:21:14+00:00

The end game is what you wanted without a woman in the picture. Want to go sailing? Do it! Still want that house and picket fence all to yourself? Go for it! Minimalism and enjoy more time while working for less? Knock yourself out and do it!

Yeah, that end game over there back at the plantation? That's her end game. Which end game are you working for?

cashmoney_x · 2017-02-09T15:08:52+00:00

I "went mgtow" almost 5 years ago. In that time I have not had a single fucking argument with anybody. Not ONE. Absolutely no drama in my life. No one in my home criticizing, questioning or second guessing me. No moody storms to weather. No games, no bullshit. No considering another person when it comes time to make decisions.

If I want to take an extra shift at work one week I can do so and not hear a fucking thing about working too much.

If I wake up on a work day and decide I'm "sick" and need to take a "pot and video games" day for mental heakth reasons (lulz) I can do so and not hear a fucking thing about not working enough.

If I get a song in my head and have the overwhelming urge to play it on my drums I head downstairs and do it. There's no concern about noise for other people. There's no one saying "do you really have to do that right now? You just played the other day."

If I wake up and decide to blast some of my ridiculous music (technical death metal junkie) in glorious 7.1 surround sound and clean house I do it. No more cleaning in silence broken only by a head poking around the door to criticize or question.

Hmmm....this steak and salad dinner would be great followed by a nice cigar (or joint). Wish I could just light one up here and now instead of having to hide outside like a criminal.....OH WAIT I CAN.

My head is clear. I am happy. I work less hours (three day weekend every week baby!) because I don't need to pay for anyone else's bs and I can live a minimalist lifestyle with no one adding to my bills. My friends/brother come over to game, jam, smoke pot and talk about esoteric shit/watch space documentaries, work out, whatever. Anytime I want.

I'm finally living for me and it's fucking brilliant.

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2017-02-09T01:13:27+00:00

We do whatever the hell we want.

For some,end game is becoming a godly marksman irl.Or becoming a monk.For others it could be having so much $$$$$.There's also a number out there who's end goal is to relax while paying escorts.

Its honestly anything really,at least it isn't enslaved.

igetbucketsallday · 2017-02-09T01:56:58+00:00

If you're referring to a long-term result of every male on the planet going full MGTOW without any slip-up (for the sake of argument), it's extinction of course. Of course, before that point, I think laws would change to favor men a bit more and incentivize marriage and/or procreation. If women were to become far less promiscuous, and laws weren't tilted in women's favor, a lot of men would jump off MGTOW.

So taking an uncompromising approach, the end-game to MGTOW is extinction. Men stop fucking women, population dwindles rapidly.

Taking a practical approach, the end-game would be taking back power from women so that men and women could actually successfully procreate again.

I'm sure everyone has different ideas on the MGTOW approach, so I doubt there is a consensus answer.

2017-02-09T10:03:46+00:00

Healthy question.

A blue pill man conditioned to believe that an enviable relationship and it's consequence, a happy family is all in life to make it an accomplished life. Everything he does is directly/indirectly tied to achieve the accomplishment.

The awakening is a rude shock. It will(and should) make him a Nihilistic, reasons explained above. Sometimes i wonder at those who post here(and in TRP) that they momentarily relapsed into Blue pill world. IMHO, it's impossible to get back into that world, even if it is to play the game like in the TRP sub. I believe this gotta do with personally experiencing and discovering the truths rather than experiencing it vicariously; and for this reason i would advocate that young blokes should go and get enough experience before coming here, because this is too serious stuff to learn off-handed. Maybe they will 'find love' too, because not everyone is gonna go through the miserable situations and in that case 'love' works wonders for them, stay happy and proceed towards the accomplishment targets.

Hypothetically speaking, if there is a memory wipe that can wipe all the bitter truths learned, and all the relationship experiences i had, i would take it gladly. Betaboy in me will do all the monkey dancing while drooling at the thought of pussy gates opening- like every T, D and H out there.

There is no such memory wipe option available, so gotta plough through this unchartered territory of living on my own. Post awakening life is too ridiculously simple: getting time to watch 1 full episode of Breaking bad seems impossible earlier, now i can binge watch a whole season. Bored, then i started learning about electrical engineering to help in my work related stuff. For me it's now about becoming independent in all spheres of existence. Baby steps, it is.

For a brief moment, i splurged in the -isms: existentialism, antinatalism... and then i realized being bitter about life isn't going to help. So i consciously avoid getting into the philosophical traps.

Maybe the system will correct itself; for humanity has survived a lot and can tide over this too. Remember, for success in any wave, u gotta climb on it at the right time. Maybe it's too early to jump into this mgtow bandwagon. These uncertainties; lol. I am coming to terms with the fact that this path has no turning back in case that happens, for i will be too detached for that (version of) reality.

Here's how i see it: we already are aware of the rewards of that reality, don't we. Only this side is unexplored; let's embrace it and tread through the unknown path. It's gotta be interesting provided you have/acquire the motivation to make it that way.

2017-02-09T11:18:17+00:00

Strategy is to build an empire around my persona. I am a train heading to success and eventually girls (paid or not) can get on but that is not going my destination or altering my route, a straight line to success. Be fit, be creative, hobbyist, wealthy enough to enjoy a beutiful life. This is for me MGTOW.

RecQuery · 2017-02-09T11:55:49+00:00

Sometimes it is simply enough to be, to exist and indulge in those things that bring joy and to not be beholden to anyone.

john_the_other · 2017-02-09T13:24:09+00:00

Contentment, as it is the state in which happines is in abundance.

Solstus22 · 2017-02-13T07:01:51+00:00

There's a lot I want to do, but here are my major ones.

Continue to understand and explore the world and attempt to attain enlightenment (not in the Buddhist sense)
Learning to hone and develop my skills in Martial Arts and Body training.
Enjoying my career that houses my passions.
As the word of Tai Lopez says: "KNOWLEDGE!" in gaining through reading and understanding.
Take as much time to get what I want out of this world and milk it all. (no dirty pun intended)

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