why abrahamism and mgtow cannot mix

Noomene · 2016-12-06T17:46:02+00:00

Keep religion and race out of MGTOW.

Is it really too hard to grasp? MGTOW is trying to bring all men together no matter what their color, or religion. What unites us is being men, nothing else. If you have a certain religion or certain religious views, keep them to yourself. That is if you're really secular.

Or maybe you're that stuffed turkish asshole who keeps posting about religion the last couple of days. Or is it your tradcons new strategy to attack mgtow now, divide and conquer, divide along the lines of religion and take care of each religion seperately, the christian men call them racist white supremacists, the muslims men call them terrorists, and then the jewish men call them conspiracy world controlling jews. Is that the plan?

Einen777 · 2016-12-06T19:27:52+00:00

There are many early Christian religious leaders who advised against marriage and suggested swearing off women entirely. There is also the monastic life, which was not so far removed from some of the principles of MGTOW.

iwanttheblanketback · 2016-12-06T20:29:43+00:00

I don't think Christianity is incompatible. The morality and motivations are different. Most Churches are catering to women these days and avoid mentioning the {teachings of remaining single} in life anymore.

Matthew 19:8 Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.” 10 The disciples said to him, “If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry.” 11 Jesus replied, “Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. 12 For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others—and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.”

1 Corinthians 7:32 I would like you to be free from concern. An unmarried man is concerned about the Lord’s affairs—how he can please the Lord. 33 But a married man is concerned about the affairs of this world—how he can please his wife— 34 and his interests are divided.

1 Corinthians 7::37 But the man who has settled the matter in his own mind, who is under no compulsion but has control over his own will, and who has made up his mind not to marry the virgin—this man also does the right thing. 38 So then, he who marries the virgin does right, but he who does not marry her does better.

BoyWhoreWithASword · 2016-12-06T17:30:08+00:00

As a former Muslim with a Muslim father and Christian mother, I agree.

digdig66 · 2016-12-06T20:01:59+00:00

ITT: Pseudo-theological knowledge and pseudo-historical knowledge. Get it in your thick skull that MGTOW is nothing more than a knowledge dump. It's not an ideology. It's not a political wing. It's not even a safe space for men. It's a depository that can be accessed and withdrawn from at will. If someone wants to be an atheist, great. If someone wants to follow a religion, great. Declaring that another man can or can't do something if it has no effect on you personally is none of your business and you should work out your own life before trying to project your hatred of western religion on other people. Fundamentally you've failed to grasp the point of the bible and you've latched onto the hype idea that religion is by default something wicked. People are wicked, religious ideas are something else (obviously there are exceptions, but it's the people that choose to manifest any violent religious doctrines, if they exist in a particular religion).

abrahamism encourages men to follow the plan that "god" lays out for them instead of letting them choose their own path in life. basically get a wife or two or five, have some kids, give all your hard-earned money to the church/synagogue/mosque, mutilate your son's genitals, and be a slave, and if you don't do exactly as i say you are evil.

This is just not true of christianity. Rule #1: No Bullshit.

OptimalAngus · 2016-12-06T21:30:18+00:00

I disagree. As an ex-christian mystic, the men in the bible I most looked up to (and somewhat continue to) are MGTOW.

Enoch.
Elijah.
Elisha.
Other prophets.
Jesus himself.

The prophets are my favorite, they were lone wolves, served none but god and themselves.

Read a little about them and see how badass they were. To me, going MGTOW is one of the closest paths to "god" (or whatever you decide to call it) one can get.

Cheers, bro! :D

YourAverageBloke2 · 2016-12-06T17:43:08+00:00

Let me just say you are wrong on absolutely every point. Even among secular biblical scholars, there is unanimous agreement that Jesus existed. If you don't believe Jesus existed, then you can't believe Julius Caesar or Alexander the Great existed. Also, you don't need to be circumcised to be a Christian. You don't need to donate any money to a church to be a Christian. I'm a Christian and I definitely don't tithe at all. The church will just blow it on unnecessary luxuries like giant flat screens or trips to Africa so the girls going can virtue signal on Facebook (and sleep around with the Africans at night).

Oh, and you definitely don't need to raise a family or get married to be a Christian. Jesus said it's okay to eliminate women from your life if you want to. The Apostle Paul even said celibacy is a great gift if you can manage to do so.

Bottom line: MGTOW is compatible with Christianity. In fact, I think it makes my faith stronger. I've read the Bible cover to cover. I can definitely say that God is well aware of women's behavior. There are countless nuggets of wisdom in Proverbs and Paul's letters to Timothy on the horrible nature of women.

However, I can't speak for Islam or modern Judaism. I don't know much about them.

bdf39 · 2016-12-06T17:44:23+00:00

Eh this is a complicated discussion. MGTOW doesn't have a central code or dogma per say. There are things that we all agree on for the most part (the gynocentrism of society, the fail of a value that is marriage compared to its rewards, etc), but I believe religion (whatever it is, or lack there of) should be available to someone who is MGTOW. If someone is MGTOW they are most likely critical thinkers and smart enough to know which part of a religion is manufactured bull crap, and which part is beneficial to them.

Zombocom1911 · 2016-12-06T20:48:37+00:00

Hinduism and Buddhism have the ideal of being a solitary monk-like figure who lives away from the world, placed very highly in terms of overall respect.

mgtow_ · 2016-12-06T17:57:47+00:00

Thankfully most modern religious people don't actually follow their own religious texts. When they actually do, we call it terrorism.

metaqaulone · 2016-12-06T19:57:52+00:00

Are you familiar with St Paul?

CodeLimosis · 2016-12-07T16:17:34+00:00

How about this, fuck all religions, including Buddhism and Jainism. It's almost as big of a time expenditure and waste of brain cells as chasing pussy and female validation.

reganstar1874 · 2016-12-07T20:56:48+00:00

what about priests dude

Title	why abrahamism and mgtow cannot mix
Author	deathmetalfan6
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Date	December 6, 2016 5:26 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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