So baffled by how many women take anti-depressants and crazy pills. AWALT.

LetsGoAllTheWhey · 2016-09-07T16:07:04+00:00

Women are never happy and so they look for happiness in anti-depressants, mood stabilizers, etc. But of course, the pills don't make them happy either, just possibly more tolerable to be around.

Prometheus444 · 2016-09-07T16:21:37+00:00

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Saintmyname · 2016-09-07T17:05:27+00:00

I haven't dated a girl without a prescription for something mental in years. I miss the "sane" ones sooooooooo much.

blackierobinsun2 · 2016-09-07T17:20:38+00:00

Im surprised the suicide rate Amon women isn't 100%

Weak

No heart

No sign of intelligence

Can't do anything right

Whiny voice

I'm going to stop here before I make a dictionary

CyLoke · 2016-09-07T19:16:38+00:00

Our descent into the Age of Depression seems unstoppable. Three decades ago, the average age for the first onset of depression was 30. Today it is 14. Researchers such as Stephen Izard at Duke University point out that the rate of depression in Western industrialized societies is doubling with each successive generational cohort. At this pace, over 50 per cent of our younger generation, aged 18-29, will succumb to it by middle age. Extrapolating one generation further, we arrive at the dire conclusion that virtuallyeveryone will fall prey to depression.

By contrast to many traditional cultures that lack depression entirely, or even a word for it, Western consumer culture is certainly depression-prone. But depression is so much a part of our vocabulary that the word itself has come to describe mental states that should be understood differently. In fact, when people with a diagnosis of depression are examined more closely, the majority do not actually fit that diagnosis. In the largest study of its kind, Ramin Mojtabai of Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health sampled over 5,600 cases and found that only 38 per cent of them met the criteria for depression.

Contributing to the confusion is the equally insidious epidemic of demoralization that also afflicts modern culture. Since it shares some symptoms with depression, demoralization tends to be mislabelled and treated as if it were depression. A major reason for the poor 28-per-cent success rate of anti-depressant drugs is that a high percentage of ‘depression’ cases are actually demoralization, a condition unresponsive to drugs.

Existential disorder

In the past, our understanding of demoralization was limited to specific extreme situations, such as debilitating physical injury, terminal illness, prisoner-of-war camps, or anti-morale military tactics. But there is also a cultural variety that can express itself more subtly and develop behind the scenes of normal everyday life under pathological cultural conditions such as we have today. This culturally generated demoralization is nearly impossible to avoid for the modern ‘consumer’.

Rather than a depressive disorder, demoralization is a type of existential disorder associated with the breakdown of a person’s ‘cognitive map’. It is an overarching psycho-spiritual crisis in which victims feel generally disoriented and unable to locate meaning, purpose or sources of need fulfilment. The world loses its credibility, and former beliefs and convictions dissolve into doubt, uncertainty and loss of direction. Frustration, anger and bitterness are usual accompaniments, as well as an underlying sense of being part of a lost cause or losing battle. The label ‘existential depression’ is not appropriate since, unlike most forms of depression, demoralization is a realistic response to the circumstances impinging on the person’s life.

Resilience traits such as patience, restraint and fortitude have given way to short attention spans, over-indulgence and a masturbatory approach to life

As it is absorbed, consumer culture imposes numerous influences that weaken personality structures, undermine coping and lay the groundwork for eventual demoralization. Its driving features – individualism, materialism, hyper-competition, greed, over-complication, overwork, hurriedness and debt – all correlate negatively with psychological health and/or social wellbeing. The level of intimacy, trust and true friendship in people’s lives has plummeted. Sources of wisdom, social and community support, spiritual comfort, intellectual growth and life education have dried up. Passivity and choice have displaced creativity and mastery. Resilience traits such as patience, restraint and fortitude have given way to short attention spans, over-indulgence and a masturbatory approach to life.

Research shows that, in contrast to earlier times, most people today are unable to identify any sort of philosophy of life or set of guiding principles. Without an existential compass, the commercialized mind gravitates toward a ‘philosophy of futility’, as Noam Chomsky calls it, in which people feel naked of power and significance beyond their conditioned role as pliant consumers. Lacking substance and depth, and adrift from others and themselves, the thin and fragile consumer self is easily fragmented and dispirited.

By their design, the central organizing principles and practices of consumer culture perpetuate an ‘existential vacuum’ that is a precursor to demoralization. This inner void is often experienced as chronic and inescapable boredom, which is not surprising. Despite surface appearances to the contrary, the consumer age is deathly boring. Boredom is caused, not because an activity is inherently boring, but because it is not meaningful to the person. Since the life of the consumer revolves around the overkill of meaningless manufactured low-level material desires, it is quickly engulfed by boredom, as well as jadedness, ennui and discontent. This steadily graduates to ‘existential boredom’ wherein the person finds all of life uninteresting and unrewarding.

Moral net

Consumption itself is a flawed motivational platform for a society. Repeated consummation of desire, without moderating constraints, only serves to habituate people and diminish the future satisfaction potential of what is consumed. This develops gradually into ‘consumer anhedonia’, wherein consumption loses reward capacity and offers no more than distraction and ritualistic value. Consumerism and psychic deadness are inexorable bedfellows.

Individualistic models of mind have stymied our understanding of many disorders that are primarily of cultural origin. But recent years have seen a growing interest in the topic ofcultural health and ill-health as they impact upon general wellbeing. At the same time, we are moving away from naïve behavioural models and returning to the obvious fact that the human being has a fundamental nature, as well as a distinct set of human needs, that must be addressed by a cultural blueprint.

In his groundbreaking book The Moral Order, anthropologist Raoul Naroll used the term ‘moral net’ to indicate the cultural infrastructure that is required for the mental wellbeing of its members. He used numerous examples to show that entire societies can become predisposed to an array of mental ills if their ‘moral net’ deteriorates beyond a certain point. To avoid this, a society’s moral net must be able to meet the key psycho-social-spiritual needs of its members, including a sense of identity and belonging, co-operative activities that weave people into a community, and shared rituals and beliefs that offer a convincing existential orientation.

We are long overdue a cultural revolution that would force a radical revamp of the political process, economics, work, family and environmental policy

Similarly, inThe Sane Society, Erich Fromm cited ‘frame of orientation’ as one of our vital ‘existential needs’, but pointed out that today’s ‘marketing characters’ are shackled by a cultural programme that actively blocks fulfilment of this and other needs, including the needs for belonging, rootedness, identity, transcendence and intellectual stimulation. We are living under conditions of ‘cultural insanity’, a term referring to a pathological mismatch between the inculturation strategies of a culture and the intrapsychic needs of its followers. Being normal is no longer a healthy ambition.

Human culture has mutated into a sociopathic marketing machine dominated by economic priorities and psychological manipulation. Never before has a cultural system inculcated its followers to suppress so much of their humanity. Leading this hostile takeover of the collective psyche are increasingly sophisticated propaganda and misinformation industries that traffic the illusion of consumer happiness by wildly amplifying our expectations of the material world. Today’s consumers are by far the most propagandized people in history. The relentless and repetitive effect is highly hypnotic, diminishing critical faculties, reducing one’s sense of self, and transforming commercial unreality into a surrogate for meaning and purpose.

The more lost, disoriented and spiritually defeated people become, the more susceptible they become to persuasion, and the more they end up buying into the oversold expectations of consumption. But in unreality culture, hyper-inflated expectations continually collide with the reality of experience. Since nothing lives up to the hype, the world of the consumer is actually an ongoing exercise in disappointment. While most disappointments are minor and easy to dissociate, they accumulate into an emotional background of frustration as deeper human needs get neglected. Continued starvation of these needs fuels disillusion about one’s whole approach to life. Over time, people’s core assumptions can become unstable.

https://newint.org/columns/essays/2016/04/01/psycho-spiritual-crisis/

lostapwbm · 2016-09-07T16:33:10+00:00

Is there such a thing as a sane woman?

I'm sure there is. I'm also sure Timbuktu is a real place, despite having never seen either one first-hand.

What the fuck is up with that shit?

The Rolling Stones released "Mother's Little Helper" in 1966. The trend of women being miserable fucks who self-medicate to in order to try and regulate their own histrionics is nothing new. Lithium, Alcohol, Cocaine, Heroin, Valium, Xanax, Ritalin, you name it, they'll put it in them and sail away to a happier place (away from themselves).

Natsume25 · 2016-09-07T17:01:57+00:00

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2016-09-07T17:40:05+00:00

That's because they don't need no man.. They are all perfectly happy as single women!!

As long as they are stoned

andreas-mgtow · 2016-09-07T19:05:41+00:00

We always seem to miss that nearly 100% of women in reproductive age are on an elevated hormone regime through oral contraceptives. This causes them to become depressed, choose partners differently than they would naturally have and to be less likely to bond with them.

They live chemically altered lives and will never know who they truly are.

"current contraceptive use was associated with an increase rate in depression, divorce, tranquilizer use, sexual dysfunction, and suicide and other violent and accidental deaths." http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15236788

"initiation of pill use significantly decreased women's preferences for male facial masculinity.." http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23528282

aanarchist · 2016-09-07T16:45:15+00:00

yea dude that was the master plan, cut them off from happiness and then drug them and then make them think men are to blame.

2016-09-07T22:05:28+00:00

My aunt put her entire family on drugs.. I seriously worry for their lives.

I actually don't know if she takes something herself though.

FoxIslander · 2016-09-07T18:45:53+00:00

...my x-wife same thing. She recently visited my son...he told me her purse is a pharmacy....Xanax, Welbutrin, Ambien...even some St. John's Wort thrown in for good measure. Glad her new husband (a former close friend) is living with this...not me.

2016-09-07T21:11:18+00:00

My opinion is that the constantly changing estrogen levels mess with the woman's brain.

FreeNClear32 · 2016-09-08T03:05:24+00:00

You better be double bagging that shit of yours otherwise you'll end up a wallet slave to one of these cunts.

2016-09-08T03:52:39+00:00

From what I've learned, the "have it all" striving is making women the unhappiest they've ever been, statistically speaking. A woman isn't satisfied to be a mom or to be a career lady, society tells her she can and should be both. So, she's overworked and stretched on two fronts and feels like she never has any time for enjoyment. Some women do the work/mom balance and are able to stay in the positive, but a lot are not.

2016-09-08T00:30:28+00:00

It's because nothing is legal anymore. Go to the park with your kids? You're a bad parent! The government takes the kids away, throws the father in jail even though he wasn't there, and the mother is forced to get a job because her husband is in jail for bullshit reasons. Alternative: lots of medication. Everything a normal human would do has been replaced with antidepressants. Remember when a father would take his son to play sports on saturday? Yeah, that's gone. Both the father and the son take a pill to cope with the loss.

cynicalsimon · 2016-09-07T20:28:17+00:00

My last ex was on crazy pills as well.

Taking an antidepressant doesn't mean your crazy.(that being said, most women are batshit crazy) I have depression too and was on that exact antidepressant, not very long ago.

Your giving mgtow a bad name.

Yea women are fucking crazy, but shit like bi-polar, your seriously insulting them for taking medication to help bi-polar symptoms?

what the fuck. grow up.

Then saying awalt? what the hell are you thinking?

Medicating for a mental health issue is not something you insult.

2016-09-07T21:38:19+00:00

I guess you're an American.

Title	So baffled by how many women take anti-depressants and crazy pills. AWALT.
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Date	September 7, 2016 3:57 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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