My paradox

doctoroetker · 2014-12-28T12:35:26+00:00

This is what I thought when I went RP. Shit test tips, constant negs, dread game, plate management, LTR strategies etc. etc. This shit is much more than improving myself and it is just a waste of time to get some overused pussy. If it was for a long term stable relationship with a perfect woman it might worth. But AWALT and I can't risk that. So I am out of the loop. Now I do what I want and I am pretty happy because I am free !

Vendetta36 · 2014-12-28T15:37:53+00:00

You've evolved beyond the simple "I need to get pussy for validation" which is what TRP seems to be turning into. I came to the same realization. It's nice to get laid, especially after having gone a long time without, but at the end of the day, it's just sex. Finding a girl who actually cares about you on a higher level is more difficult but much more meaningful. My search continues but I suppose I have been following the MGTOW path all along. The recent TRP post about how it's ok for guys to convince girls to cheat rubbed me the wrong way too. If we do that, we're no better than all the "cheating bitches" they complain about. Keep evolving; don't be afraid to challenge your perception and worldview. I think you're on the right path my friend.

drkstrs · 2014-12-28T18:31:51+00:00

TRP is still mostly gynocentrism. In MGTOW you are paramount. Their "strategy" is still mostly about putting women above you in the hierarchy... no matter how much they try to tell you otherwise. It's helpful to know about female nature in general --you get some of that there. Take it a step further. Invert the whole pyramid. Put yourself on top, and view the bottom of it as full of mostly unworthy, or simply ineligible women. Why? Because this really is the case. In relationships, you have much more to lose than gain with them in most cases. Don't put them on a pedestal because becoming independent, free and powerful without relying on hollow female validation is the real prize. The amazing thing is, freedom really is there for the taking. The whole thing is so damn pervasive, the cultural brainwashing is everywhere that if you succeed in really seeing past it, the way is mostly clear for you. MGTOW is not the refuge of pitiful men who fail at attracting women and judge their self worth from that basis. No, many here are completely the opposite of that, it's we who are doing the choosing and selecting. There is no scarcity of women who would gladly siphon off your life energy.

ss_camaro · 2014-12-28T12:39:02+00:00

Another man who's dick isn't so important, he'd fuck another man over for it. You may of passed up a few pussies, but you haven't passed up your self-respect. Welcome to the club, Sgt.

entropyfiddler · 2014-12-28T21:09:47+00:00

Having dealt recently with a guy who convinced a girl i was dating to cheat on her, i can't wrap my brain around that mentality either. You didn't do anything except screw up an otherwise good relationship. Why try so hard to "win" at something that, in the end, doesn't fucking matter? All you've done is make my life a bit shitter. I'll move on and start all over, but i wouldn't have to if you weren't just a shit person. I guess it's just how much you respect your fellow man and the their personal lives.

I suppose if you don't respect yourself or others, it really doesn't matter to you. All i know is I'm concentrating on making myself better and eventually I'll be getting my gas pumped by people like that.

thrownaway_MGTOW · 2014-12-28T23:45:14+00:00

For one, beta or not, it's fucking dumb and dishonorable to get a mans girl to cheat. Why the fuck as a man, would you want to do that to another man?

I think that the "sleep with another guy's girl" (much like women trying to sleep with some other girl's GUY) thing is ultimately motivated by envy and moreover an internal pervasive insecurity, and a sense of failure in life (a lack of respect for self made outwardly manifest as a lack of respect for anyone or anything else: seeing it all as just superficial "posing") -- failure to have achieved the "status" things that they want (and which they think will make them feel complete and "badass") -- the entire structure is about seeking "validation" as a man through sexual conquest of women (and ironically, but submitting to and reshaping the self -- physically as well as behavior, etc -- to match what women "really" want {regardless of how superficial, irrational, or even psychotic those women's "wants" actually are}).

It's much like learning how to hotwire a car, and then using said "skill" to steal a Lamborghini* in order to go on a short term "joyride" in it. (And then keying the door... or spraying graffiti on the hood, in order to be able to claim "All Cars Are Like That", see they're all just "POS's").

IOW -- and this is also demonstrated by the repeated reference to the so called "alpha male" mystique -- it's an exercise in puerile "king of the hill" nonsense; it is entirely (by definition) NON-productive, but is instead "acquisitive" -- i.e. it's not about creating anything of value, merely acquiring things (even temporarily) and generally destroying or damaging them ... and to that end, it is (with inane levels of irony) then mentality of a parasitic "luuuuzer".

*Or in most cases, more likely a BMW, or even some pimped-out Cadillac.

MGTOW, help me out. Have I lost my marbles? Am i hamstring away having to try, and getting women is somehow supposed to make me feel good? Or have I arrived into an advanced level of awareness that I realize the magic show (gaming girls) in general isn’t worth the ticket price and I’m better off entertaining my own life?

It's the latter.

The whole "gaming girls" (and ratcheting up "notch count" -- or at least pretending that one is doing so) is IMO a very naive and even childish form of "playing with fire"-- which the RP/PUA types THINK they are being ever so strategically clever about (i.e. stealing the proverbial cheese without getting caught in the trap).

The problem of course is that there are multiple "traps", and they cannot ALL be entirely avoided, nor can they all be tested for much less "cured" (that condom doesn't prevent STD's, it just reduces the transmission rates {go ask Michael Douglas about that throat cancer}; it also isn't anything like a 100% certain method of birth control {ask countless men who've had, Ooops! -- 18+ years "child support" judgements levied against them})... and that is to say nothing about the possibility of criminal and civil accusations of (regret) "rape" (oh, did you NOT maintain "frame" perfectly? maybe some other "higher alpha" {or even Beta-Bux Blue Pill} came along months or even years & decades later and convinced her to fuck your life over AFTER having fucked with you... just ask Mr. Cosby about that).

2014-12-29T01:27:05+00:00

One thing they never tell you about TRP, much like with all other type of pills:

Side effects may vary.

I took the pill and rather than "i should lift rocks and fuck a lot", i thought "what a fucking waste of time."

MaunaLoona · 2014-12-28T23:32:27+00:00

Sounds like you'll enjoy one of the recent Stardusk videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3p9ZmqBK9c

Title	My paradox
Author	SergeantDickhead
Upvotes	12
Comments	14
Date	December 28, 2014 11:27 AM UTC (11 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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