Your ideal relationship?

Nozqu- · 2015-11-06T20:06:47+00:00

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TwoTonJoe · 2015-11-05T19:01:39+00:00

What you are seeking simply does not exist. If you want a relationship, be prepared to jettison several, if not most, of the above criteria. If you do happen to find the rare gem that possesses those attributes, be prepared for them to fall off after the wedding band goes on her finger.

My opinion, from life-experience only, though. Your mileage may vary.

motorku531 · 2015-11-05T19:23:11+00:00

I'm sorry to break it to you, but there's no such woman. AWALT.

Morranaii · 2015-11-05T19:29:03+00:00

my life with a special partner (I stress the word partner) - it might be a robot. 'Special partners' don't exist

short list - dude that list is endless ;)

She's supportive - like a mother? Why? Is supporting someone to deal with their own problems ought to be fun? She's loyal - like a dog? Why she ought to be? It's a limiting trait. She's not demanding and do not subscribe to the consumer way of life - well all do, in a way. are you not demanding with presenting your 'list'? You see where I am leading?

If she wants to go buy women stuff, let her do that with her own money - ok, thats reasonable

She lets me be and follow my passion - if you're so weak that you will drop your life passions because someone else says so, then you need an upgrade, but of yourself- not your woman

She's supportive - again? like double-espresso? :) She's not controlling or illogical - if she ought to be like mother (caring and supportive) then she probably will also be controlling. just like mothers. being illogical is a female characteristic. regrettably, you can't change their nature or how their brains operate.

Together we grow and support each other but how, if you require her to be somehow better than yourself? equal partners? that never happens. it's always 'master' and 'apprentice' relation. ALWAYS. you can only choose at which side you gonna be.

She's not a little baby girl in an adult's body uhmmm but who's being a baby boy here, by wanting an equal female partner that will support you and all?

She's kind and compassionate. Respects other human beings - that's reasonable She's down to earth - what does that mean?

She satisfies my sexual and emotional needs - so a mixture between a mother, best friend and a prostitute. Haha 3 in 1 ;)

Am I asking for too much? - hahahaha well, YEAH!!

I would provide her with the same things Here's my point. If someone fits the list you described, why on earth he or she would want to be with someone THAT MISERABLE to ask for ANOTHER HUMAN BEING to support him, grow together and all? You see, you being a man must first master these things. If you will do it, then you realize that you don't need woman to fill gaps in your life or development as a male. Now you just looking for what I've stated above. No healthy woman will ever want to get into such relationship. Because it's gonna be a relationship with a boy, and not a man.

Now, even if you grow up to become a Man, then FEMALE NATURE still remains UNCHANGEABLE. Then, there comes big realization that women USE MEN. And then you are able to decide whether you risk interacting with them, being in short relationships etc. or not.

Until that happens, put your magic list to the envelope, and check it out when you'll hit maturity. No offence - EVERYBODY WAS THERE BEFORE. You should focus on yourself. Don't mix yourself with women, because when they see your huge weaknesses they will use YOU and set up PREGNANCY TRAP and so on*

- and call it love later on, and you'll not even know what hit you few years later with a wife and a kid on its way.

I hope I didn't sounded too harsh. It's nothing against you. Just get a grip with reality.

Unicorns aren't real dude.

gundahir · 2015-11-05T19:45:20+00:00

That is a nice list and there is nothing wrong with those conditions. Now go out and apply this list to your selection and you will quickly see that you can consider yourself lucky to find a woman who does half of that. This is at least the result of my experience as I have quite a similar list. Unfortunately my list is even more demanding. She has to also satisfy me intellectually and not be lazy. I am convinced there is no woman on this planet that does everything on my list. The one closest to your description would be one of those traditional bimbo Asian girls. But they will want to marry and want your cash and consume.

2015-11-06T15:55:25+00:00

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HerbivoreUSA · 2015-11-06T18:40:18+00:00

Well, are you the scion of a billionaire, or at the very least a 1% family? And an "Alpha" Chad on top?

That's why we live by a belief that AWALT. Not because unicorns don't exist in our vast world of 7 billion people, but because the probability of YOU finding and keeping one for life is basically nil.

squidracer · 2015-11-06T07:15:08+00:00

I'm pretty sure I'm in my ideal relationship.. Lived with a girl for almost six years then kicked her out 2 months ago.

Now she comes over three times a week for sex then goes home

cseadwstdbnymoabtab · 2015-11-06T11:44:47+00:00

No women are like that. The best you can hope for in a woman (IMO) is someone who is physically attractive, has sex with you, doesn't have 5 or 6 aircraft carriers full of baggage from her past, and isn't a complete b-word 24 hours a day and 7 days a week (i.e. is tolerable to be around). That's about it.

Most women aren't loyal. They have a low tolerance for you not doing well (if you're not doing well she'll disappear). Most of them are consumeristic. The ones in rich consumerist-orientated cultures are the worst.

Poorer ones from developing countries are better because they're not used to having a lot of expensive stuff, or being around people who have all that stuff. But if you (or other men) buy them a bunch of smartphones and designer clothes, they'll very quickly become just as greedy and entitled as their rich western counterparts.

2015-11-06T13:14:06+00:00

One in which I would not be expected to fulfil the exploitative and abusive male gender role. Unfortunately that sort of relationships don't exist so it's MGTOW for me.

Greetings1 · 2015-11-06T14:55:23+00:00

You sound like the young people who are hoping to work for the perfect company with the perfect boss after they graduate from college. Imagine if I applied your list to career goals. A boss that never nags, a boss that supports all my projects, and boss thst is always nice a company that I can grow old with and be at for 50 years, coworkers that know when to ask me things and when not to, clients that are not demanding, and will give me a nice benefits package. See how ridiculous this sounds?

The above conditions are nice but lack any original thought or consideration of human nature. You're like an engineer who wants to design the perfect product but refuses to add tolerances and expects ideal manufacturing of the end product. Those are the company projects that fail. Now apply this concept to relationship expectations: you want a supportive person who will give you sex, let you do what you want, support your every venture, is always nice to you, never nags you, and pays for her own stuff. This sounds like idealisms copied and pasted from an Internet blog about the "perfect partner". Nothing is morally wrong with wanting all this but there us something mentally wrong with you if you are relying on idealism to support your nawalt beliefs. You'll find out later on life that the best way to live life is on your own terms. If you want to be married, be married to a cause or higher purpose. Use your intelligence and skills to help solve local or global problems that will actually benefit humanity or just people with your sphere of influence.

LetsGoAllTheWhey · 2015-11-06T16:34:36+00:00

Psychological testing is the one thing I'll probably insist on before investing time in a long term relationship. Will be required before marriage if I ever decide to marry again. It would have saved a ton of time, money and heart ache if I had required it before my first marriage.

Morranaii · 2015-11-06T18:14:17+00:00

'Woman are incapable of loving men. Just like whores, its all about what's in it for them. Women are NOT in relationships with men out of of love. Its always to use a man for whatever purpose a woman needs, be it money, status, attention, upward mobility, employment opportunities, etc. No woman would admit to this because its too shameful. A woman will avoid shame at any cost. Female Nature is very shameful when exposed and analyzed. In order to acquire a woman to spend time with you, just as with a prostitute, you better have something she wants and provide it.' For a woman, Love is unessential on either side, if you have the goods.

xkulp8 · 2015-11-06T22:26:10+00:00

Looks like you're lost. This is r/mgtow. City-data is down the hall and to the right.

Morranaii · 2015-11-07T19:59:36+00:00

"supportive" -> meaning if I have a new book to write, a new hobby to learn then she's not nagging me with like: "honey, you are not spending time with me" (what she implies: you are not pampering me enough). She leaves me to just BE

you rather meant that she is just not disturbing/bothering you during your free time. that's easy as long as u dont live with her. DONT FUCKING DO IT mate

RealEstateRockstar · 2015-11-05T21:41:26+00:00

Go take a look at /r/marriedredpill - What you're looking for doesn't exist. Feminism has bred hypergamy, solipsism, etc. You will never find what you're looking for, only disappointment and financial heartache.

Title	Your ideal relationship?
Author	brownbag18
Upvotes	1
Comments	20
Date	November 5, 2015 5:43 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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