Why does trp hate on mgtow so much?

ParalyticPoison · 2019-10-25T00:00:28+00:00

When your life revolves around getting validation from women, it's no surprise they act like them so much.

MGTOWlifer · 2019-10-25T00:09:14+00:00

They make money off simps going to their bullshit classes. Mgtow teaches men they don't have to do any of that shit. Hitting their wallets. That's why they don't like us

nonchalantfool · 2019-10-25T00:19:39+00:00

Seeing a free man triggers some folk

DangZagnut · 2019-10-25T00:16:29+00:00

MGTOW directly contradicts a huge number of people's ideologies.

PUAs see customers lost, because their entire business model is based on slobbering thirsty men.

TRP has based their entire world view on manipulating women because they are thirsty for pussy, and there must be something wrong with someone who doesn't.

Incels have their entire world view on worshipping pussy, and they don't like someone who isn't.

Trad cons worship pussy and marriage and family values and the idea that someone rejects any of that rejects their entire lives and their families.

SJWs worship pussy and entire base their political world view on manipulating people to their particular ideology by using women to shame those who don't. For example, if you don't worship a 16 year old whining child about the environment, you're a bad person. SJWs are powerless, like PUAs, because their entire business model is based on worshipping pussy.

So you take every political stance, age range, sexual conquest concept, and ignore it and don't play that game, and don't allow you to be manipulated by it, and pretty much the world is against you and calls you names. Inecls say we "cope". PUA says we're running away because we're betas. Women say we never had a chance at pussy. SJWs say we're all alt-right. The right wing says we're all satanic.

All because MGTOW doesn't worship pussy.

So who's really in charge. A penis? Or a pussy?

You throw out the pussy and everyone's entire lives and livelihood is affected, from their religions to their bank account.

They can't handle that.

smileyclown · 2019-10-25T00:02:18+00:00

Thats their problem. Let them stay blue pilled, programmed by the tellievision and women screwing them over for money in every way.

realChebz · 2019-10-25T03:16:51+00:00

I find it funny that they label themselves "red pill" yet their goals in life are as blue pill as they get. Using different language and hipster terms like "hold frame" and "spin plates" doesn't make you red pill if your goal is the same as that of an average tradcuck.

MrMcpizzza · 2019-10-25T02:01:15+00:00

It’s a business. Everyone knows if you don’t play the game you don’t have to pay. They play on your ego because relationships with women are based on ego on both sides, they play the “man up” “be a real man” talking points and then they charge you for advice that will temporarily make you happy. It’s all garbage. We don’t play be their rules because we’re not playing a game, we’re living long term trying to live in peace and prosperity

crityouallday · 2019-10-25T03:07:47+00:00

I made the same mistake telling family members I get to sleep in everyday because awesome work. Had some jaws drop.

Well... Maybe it's a good thing way more silence from now on (knock on wood)

They hate us cause they anus

theJwordsdidit · 2019-10-25T04:36:31+00:00

Because their primary objective in life is getting girls. It's what they put most of their effort into, it's what gives them meaning, and they get alot of validation and admiration from being good at it.

Mgtows invalidate that pursuit because most of us think women are a waste of time. A Pua will get no admiration, respect, clout, or improved social standing from any mgtow. We basically spit on their life's work, metaphorically speaking.

Imagine spending your life believing that getting girls is the most important thing to do, that it's the only thing that will make you happy, and then you dedicate everything to it. And on top of that society, other men, and other women, for the most part encourage, agree and reward you for this pursuit. Then all of a sudden, almost out of nowhere, a significantly large percentage of men all start saying that chasing women is empty, a waste of time, and overall detrimental to happiness. These same men start convincing other men , even convincing other trps and puas, that mgtow is the true path. To make matters worse, many of these mgtows are getting lots of girls and lots of sex, and the mgtow "frame" actually proves to be arguably the best frame there is for attracting women. These damn mgtows, that don't even really want girls, and don't even really try for them, are now having more success and getting girls way more easily than the trps and redpillers who go out 7 nights a week and maybe get a drunk 4 to fuck them once a month if they're lucky.

Mgtow is the Pua hack. It breaks Pua, and gives men an even better way to get girls if they so choose. Mgtow is essentially becoming the best version of yourself, staying on your purpose, and not giving a fuck about women and maintaining an abundance mentality. Those are all Pua concepts that coaches charge thousands for a weekend to teach men. But if you go mgtow you just become that way organically.

michaelklr · 2019-10-25T00:07:26+00:00

I just got banned from r/askwomenover30 because I was questioning a woman why she was berating a guy asking a simple question about dating, very safe question. She researched him and stated he posts on MGTOW and he’s a troll. She even compared MGTOW to nazis....

So brainwashed they are. If you don’t say what they want to hear, you are a racist, evil nazi. I don’t get it except that they are mentally ill in the head.

hypergamous · 2019-10-25T08:39:39+00:00

Because what we "lift" is ourself up.

CaviarDreams89 · 2019-10-25T17:25:20+00:00

I saw a video on YouTube by a guy named Richard Cooper. He’s a Redpill coach. He actively does live videos on YouTube for the redpill community and the bluepillers looking to make the jump.

During the live session I listened in to, he actively asks you to donate by pressing the“Superchat” button (that you must pay a minimum of $5 for) so your question or comment gets highlighted and posted at the very top of the chat forum during live shows. Guys were constantly hitting that button and sometimes for $20+ even.

That’s not all though. He has an online community that he has that has 2 different tiers. One cost $600 a year, the other, $1,000 a year. Not including the $18/minute he charges to do a phone call with you to give you advice on becoming RedPilled.

He claims he’s a well of entrepreneur but yet is charging guys/simps egregious amounts of money for repetitive advice. I liken him to “onlyfans” women who call themselves “entrepreneurs” but are peddling bullshit products and their body.

These RedPill coaches are just the male form of the E-girls out there on insta. They need your dollar to sustain their lifestyle. They can’t hack it without you and they know it.

Borny6969 · 2019-10-25T11:26:36+00:00

This needs to be upvoted more. I had no idea what I was doing in this subreddit until I found this!

2019-10-25T00:29:33+00:00

I think many of them are either really young or have high sex drives or they are more extroverted and simply can't understand the perspective of the male not wanting to put up with the bullshit. They perhaps already enjoy bars and clubs so gaming women comes more naturally to them. I go to an actual club maybe once a year.

Sex is by far, besides doing heroin, the most pleasureful experience in life for a male, and with practice, you can actually get quite good at gaming women, especially in high population areas. I myself would rather own a cabin up in northern Wisconsin or the UP of Michigan. Clubs turn me off, and women who frequent them turn me off. To each their own.

FlintAustin · 2019-10-25T00:54:01+00:00

The idea is ... If a man is able to get a woman in bed or in relationship the value of man is more than when he was not able or interested in getting with a female.

It is predicated on principles of 1) women bringing an inherent value to a man's life and 2) the man being better off than when he was single.

In men who derive meaning to have a female they usually project their own value to an otherwise worthless female and underestimate their own quality of life as single men.

Men with such mentality start off with high expectations but eventually learn to adapt a lifestyle of appeasing a woman of subpar value than what they thought they were deserving of.

Hating on MGTOW is just a way to cope with their realities. I wouldn't be too harsh on them brothers .... They have already lost a great deal of freedom and meaning looking for a non-existing entity of female companionship beyond a honeymoon phase.

Ban_Record · 2019-10-25T01:00:59+00:00

Sorry, what is trp?

Removing-Desire · 2019-10-25T02:08:07+00:00

I followed that page for about a day until I saw it was all just kids asking for how to get laid advice. I always tell my friends when we go out just look into her eyes and shes gonna make it easy for you. Common sense will tell you if she wants to bang or not.

livingInSimulation · 2019-10-25T04:47:31+00:00

TRP and mgtow go hand in hand. I fuck girls still but they cant catch me in a relationship or marriage.

Morphs_ · 2019-10-25T06:22:26+00:00

I've read TRP a lot before coming here. Back then I assumed MGTOW was a bunch of guys being stuck in the angry phase. That's how TRP views MGTOW. After being here a lot I see what MGTOW is about. However now I see a similar misconception about TRP on the MGTOW forums, as they are portrayed as pussy worshipers, because all talk over there is about sex.

The reality is always somewhere in the middle. I consider TRP and MGTOW as both on the same side of a spectrum, but not the same place. There are MGTOW guys that still have sex. And there are TRP guys that p&d and don't want women in their lives otherwise. Both guys are quite similar Imo, because they have a similar understanding of the female psyche. So that's where MGTOW and TRP overlap a bit.

I don't really understand the mutual hate, MGTOW and TRP are like neighbours in this war that feminism is having against men.

Title	Why does trp hate on mgtow so much?
Author	Ash266
Upvotes	23
Comments	29
Date	October 24, 2019 11:58 PM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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