Our Mothers are the problem.

GodEmperorShitLord · 2016-12-27T22:35:19+00:00

What? The mother-child dynamic is one of the only true forms of unconditional love. Women cannot raise men, they can only raise boys.

Only a strong man can teach a boy how to be a strong man. In the absence of a strong man at least we have TRP.

MattyAnon · 2016-12-28T00:00:00+00:00

I remember all the good advice my mother gave me about women.

...

Oh right, I remember now. All her advice was designed to be good for women, and at my expense.

empatheticapathetic · 2016-12-27T23:38:08+00:00

I semi agree with this. Maybe fleshed out a bit better it'd make more sense. But I know my mother is desperate to not let her sons go. Fortunately she's always been more into my older brother and made him the ultimate BB, and is now upset that he is unable to assert himself in his marriage.

She passive aggressively throws spanners in my life to stop me from progressing with my own life, to the point I'm late 20s and still very much a codependent child.

In b4 "take responsibility for your own shit". I have as best I can but unavoidable family issues have held and prevented me from being the independent guy id like to have been up to this point.

ConfusedPsychiatrist · 2016-12-28T08:26:08+00:00

Amen.

Fuck that bitch who used me for her own survival and gain. Some of us get so fucked with that in order to untangle it all, before we know it, we are experts in psychology and mental health so we make a living off of it, saving other poor kids from their own toxic mothers...my username checks out.

lqtys · 2016-12-28T02:09:27+00:00

I totally agree with you. I discovered The RedPill because I was aware of the psychology of manipulators and toxic people. And I was aware of the psychology of manipulators and toxic people because a therapist gave me a hint about the cause of my childhood and adult life problems and then I connected the dots. Yes, it was my mother, and I think she has/had Munchausen syndrome by proxy.

ADDDDT · 2016-12-27T23:02:20+00:00

What I'm essentially describing is codependent behavior. What makes codependence so insidious is that selfish behavior is often disguised as altruistic.

arnieschwarz · 2016-12-28T08:07:39+00:00

No. Your mother was able to mess with you because your father let her. Don't blame your mother; blame your father.

Vladz0r · 2016-12-28T03:24:08+00:00

Your mom just wants what she thinks is best for me. When I tell her that it's something else, she rolls with it and starts to understand. Despite raising me to be a "nice guy", my mom knows how manipulative women are, and I can talk openly about how other women are manipulative, and about how I don't want to have a cushy marriage like my siblings, even though it'd mean no grandkids for her. She's been respecting my decisions more after reading No More Mr. Nice Guy and applying some of the strategies there. My mom can spot a gold-digging new wife in the family that'll lead to an inevitable divorce. She has that sort of awareness, and as a manipulative woman herself who has ended up with much more $$ than what she makes, she tells me to avoid the traps of getting with a woman like her who'd rob me blind and take half my shit, and to get a pre-nup.

You have to realize that your parents are just doing what they think is right, most of the time on an unconscious level. They want you to have opportunities they didn't have, and a woman doesn't know how to raise a man. They think of where they suffered in their childhood, and will try to either have you avoid that suffering in some form, sometimes in a shitty way, like forcing you to go to college when you have no idea what you want to do, because they think money will magically make you happy. My mom wants me to make a lot of money, because she has trouble earning money. She tells me how this will attract women, but also tells me that it'll attract gold-diggers who only want my money. Hardly anyone in my family really gives a shit about fitness, though, so I had to figure that one out on my own. My dad wasn't around for me, but he didn't raise my brother with some magical redpill mentality. He still married early, had kids, and then remarried to someone who also has kids, and I recently heard that his wife "doesn't let him use Facebook," so I'm not really seeing the red there.

So, yes, our mothers is just women. A woman who probably doesn't know much about raising a red pill man. We can't call her "a problem," though. Just let go of the past and continue moving forward instead of ranting about all this stuff. Use it for analytical purposes, and to confirm TRP theory in your own life situation.

It's not just mom, anyway. I've seen plenty of beta men in America who just aren't raising their children well. I'm seeing these slobs in the supermarket happily buying Oreos for their obese children, causing them years of suffering down the line when they're trying to wake up and overcome the years of bad habits and loose skin haunting them once they figure out how to lose weight. Seeing a man in good shape in my city is so rare, honestly, and these kids are getting screwed over in more ways than beta belief systems caused by mom. The whole society is pretty fucked in a lot of ways when it comes simple thing like health, let alone beliefs about gender roles and attraction.

ShamwowTseDung · 2016-12-28T03:45:39+00:00

Your parents led you to the fork of the road. Now you must decide whether it will be up to you or them, as to who decides which path you will head down next.

This is for those who wish to claim responsibility for their lives, and in return, have control over how they will live it.

Trooper_1868 · 2017-01-15T07:05:03+00:00

You dont come from a business family do you? My mom, she would screen a girl miles away. Ain't no way 25 years of hard work on her part, raising and working at the family business, will she let it go to waste. But i do see your point A few of the traits I have seen. "You shouldnt been thinking of sex now, you should be going on dates now" - mom back when i was like 19. YEAH.RIGHT.

Rampage_Hawk · 2016-12-28T02:05:04+00:00

Are you a filthy jew or something?

Title	Our Mothers are the problem.
Author	ADDDDT
Upvotes	0
Comments	27
Date	December 27, 2016 10:23 PM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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