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My father needs help!

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kunemhameha
July 3, 2020
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I recently spent the weekend at my father's place and noticed a few things about his LTR with my step mum. Well, he seems beaten and broken by a lot of hard work and barely any appreciation. My step mum actually goes out of her way to make fun of him in front of everyone. Everyone has a quick laugh and so does he but I watched his face quickly shift to uncomfortableness after he attempts to laugh the insults off. I explained to my father what was really going on underneath it all and he said "I know" I'm a such defeated way. SO... I want to introduce my father to Rollo's book...he just needs it in Spanish.. HELP! Please and thank you.

TLDR: know where I can get a Spanish copy of the rationale male for my father to read? He got lady problems.


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Title My father needs help!
Author kunemhameha
Upvotes 67
Comments 65
Date 03 July 2020 12:46 PM UTC (8 months ago)
Subreddit askTRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/701980
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/hkiftc/my_father_needs_help/
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[–]hate_sarcasm30 points31 points  (9 children) | Copy

I'm still laerning about red pill so take what I say with a grain of salt, but is it really a good idea to straight up give him Rollo's book? Even Rollo knows how hard it is to read the book for the first time.

Maybe give him no more mr nice guy first?

[–]kunemhameha[S] 14 points15 points  (8 children) | Copy

That's a good idea. My invitation into the red pill was Rollo's book and boy...it was like hell month for football all over again.

I could start there. Need it in Spanish.

[–]Sweatingtoomuch17 points18 points  (5 children) | Copy

No more mr nice guy is definitely a better starting place. Lots of it is about guys struggling with their wives and LTRs and I’m sure your dad would find it easy to relate and more applicable.

[–]kunemhameha[S] 6 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy

I'll start there. I don't want my 60 yr old father going through the deep level of cleaning out the clutter like I did. Much appreciated.

[–]TheRedPillRipper8 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy

NMMNG is my go-to TRP primer. Mainstream enough to be enlightening without being too involved.

Also simply spend time with your dad. Do things together. Spend time building his confidence. Building yours.

Those are some of my most treasured memories with all the men in my life. You can never have enough good memories.

Godspeed and good luck!

[–]kunemhameha[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

I've been seeing a trend in men spending time together to full fill that need of appreciation and acceptance that we cannot fully get from the fem side. I live 6 hours away from him but I'll make more of an effort to communicate with him via phone/messaging.

[–]WhatRemainsAfter3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Plan something every month. In some years time, that would be a treasured memory.

[–]kunemhameha[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I recently went shooting with him (sporting clays) and I brought up the topic. He's open..but hesitant like any blue pilled would be. Understandable. Gotta have another one of those. I told him about the book and he's starting to become open to it but I need it in Spanish as it would be significantly easier for him to understand.

[–]satanic_hamster1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Need it in Spanish.

I can recall Rollo soliciting people to get it translated in Spanish and French, but I don't know if he managed to get anybody. As far as I know, most RP related material (if not all of it) is written in English, unfortunately.

You could look for RP stuff on YouTube using 'Spanish' as a tag. I know there are Hispanic MGTOW vids out there.

[–]kunemhameha[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thank you! I actually had some awesome peeps message me a couple of links to go through. I'll check em out and update if I can.

[–]FatGirlsInPartyHats93 points94 points  (5 children) | Copy

It's a testament to how fucked our society is when sons are having to teach fathers how to be men.

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[–]kunemhameha[S] 24 points25 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm okay with that. My father didn't direct me towards this path. Another male did. And I will continue to pay it forward when needed.

[–]kunemhameha[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's up to us to bring balance to the force.

[–]walleyworld0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

His dad had his turn, now time to move forward.

Spanish things that fell off the back of a truck I Think (rough copy but cmon now its something|)

[–]celebritycoke46 points47 points  (5 children) | Copy

Maybe it’s a lesson for you. There are generational differences at play here. Perhaps it’s dad doing what dads sometime do best; show you what not to do.

[–]kunemhameha[S] 10 points11 points  (3 children) | Copy

I know the lesson. I never react to anything anymore (at least I try my very best; thank you STOCISM).

I can definitely tell my father has blowout fights with my step mum behind close doors. He shouldn't even be in a position where he gets disrespected like that constantly.

[–]a14deadpool3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

Dude reading a book isn’t going to make your step mom disappear tell him to man the fuck yo and divorce her or someshit. His incredibly weak I don’t think a book will really change him at all.

[–]kunemhameha[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I appreciate your opinion and suggestion. but there are so many different factors that are into play here. We have to be smart about how we regain respect from the fem. He's told her to go fuck herself, he pushed for a divorce, he's yelled and reacted over and over. So, I need him to read this book (in Spanish of course) - he loves reading and KNOWING my father.. I believe he will learn from this. And if not.. I'll come back here and hand you the YOU WERE RIGHT award 😉.

[–]Farseer1502214 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lol. Regain respect

[–]jackandjill222 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yep.

[–]TominatorXX9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

Why not just give him the name of a good divorce attorney?

[–]kunemhameha[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

He won't pull triggers like that. He's traditional yet he knows deep in his heart that something is at an imbalance. He constantly says that all women are manipulative but he tends to fall back into blue pill practice.

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[–]kunemhameha[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

NMMMG - got et. Just need it in Spanish haha.

My dad tells her all the time. He's just blindly to make things work so I believe the book will help him guide his relationship into a better place ..or give him enough power to leave but HE has to kind of figure that out on his own.

[–]theredsperg2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

dude's do anything to get laid.

put up with the most innane shit in the name of a wet stinking fuck hole.

helping him may harm you, be warned

[–]kunemhameha[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Am warned. I do appreciate the concern. I am also slightly worried that it can backfire. I'm not completely worried but I have had the experience of being ridiculed for going down this path..so we'll see.

[–]hawaiianboomerang2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

why not call her out? in front of everyone? tell her to stop being a toxic bitch and appreciate her man or you going to continue to bomb dinners and ruin her atmosphere Everytime she opens her mouth. if you alpha enough everyone at the table will understand and either stop coming to avoid your family's drama all together or they will just laugh it off and the night will go on but you better know that deep inside you'll embarrass this woman and she'll shut up but secretly begin to hate you but at least in your presence your father will gain the respect he deserves.

[–]kunemhameha[S] 7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

I understand where you're coming from...but me doing that in front of everyone can make my father look less in front of her eyes. Nothing is as strong as a women's imagination so I want my father to understand what to do, how to do it, and when to do it. I need him to learn and have it become subconscious or else this one time will only last as long as it can before my father falls back into blue pill practice and fucks up again and goes back to getting disrespected. My father has blown up on her in front of everyone and she still ends up disrespecting him. Again, it's really up to him.

Edit: a werd

[–]hawaiianboomerang2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

+1

[–]beginner_1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Without knowing the actual insults and context, calling her out makes you look weak and low-self esteem. I know it's hard but the real answer would be you shouldn't give a shit about her stabs at you and if you don't give a shit agree&amplify comes naturally.

But of course there are limits to what "stabs" are acceptable. This differs from person to person. Still be prepared everyone siding with her and if you call her out too brutally she might even pull the crying card.

[–]hawaiianboomerang0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

touche bro I'm very emotional

[–]DENNISCORNELIUS2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

I was thinking on making an Spanish Translate of Rational Male, but i get to the conclusion that there are many differences on peak and wall years of girls, at least on Mexico, and probably all latinamerica (I don't know why but i have seen girls here start to get really fat at 23-25) and probably on guys too, because economic level distants from being the same than in US. Even though the principles are kinda the same, it's necessary mention that a foreign guy will have a lot more status than an average guy here, even if he's good looking, and also mentioning that the cartel guys will be tricky to describe, because even if they get the top girls, how do you describe them; as "betas", because the girls are only getting them for the money, or as "alphas" because they will kill anyone who try to get their girl. The use of words, also is going to be a thing, because translating "bitch" the closest thing to it is "puta" but that's a more agressive word on Spanish. It's a lot of work, but we should try to translate it sometime, even tho the product will be drastically different.

[–]kunemhameha[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Holy shit! That's quite the thought. Puts is definitely more aggressive than bitch and describing alphas and betas would be very tricky. You're absolutely right... Hmm.. I wonder if Rollo's been asked about different language versions of his book. 🧐

[–]Bone_Coat1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

The guys in the cartels don't care about women, I mean because I have a friend who "walked in those steps", he told me that women didn't matter for any day of the week, you could get another one that would be better, I I would describe them as alphas but with too strong masculine traits that lead them to follow criminal tendencies, women do not care if he is a criminal or not, they only care about the money, power and status that a man can provide, and even more so if you are a man that other men fear and respect.

Regarding the "wall" I would say that it is almost the same, but it depends on what kind of life women have, I have seen women of 40 who are still good although they are really very few, and have seen women of 20-25 which had already reached its expiration date, saw a percentage between 20-30% that, even after 30, they still have good body and beauty

source> i am mexican

[–]CastleOfAnibal1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I tried looking for a free online version of it, but couldn't find anything. You should just buy the book for your father if it's that bad.

[–]kunemhameha[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

🙏 Appreciate it. I looked to and nada.

[–]bloody_condoms1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Risky situation, I’d give him the rational male and air down with him for a whisky and cigar asking him for a father-son night.

Don’t address it as a problem, just have guy talk and tell him how much it means to you seeing the motivation he has to do all that backbreaking hard work.

IMO earning the respect and love from my son is more important than earning it from my wife. “Respect is something earned from your son. Many fathers die alone without it.”

[–]kunemhameha[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The whiskey and cigar is a perfect touch. Thank you, sir. I've been recommended other books to slowly ease him into this.

[–]ASTRA-LUX1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

My step mum actually goes out of her way to make fun of him in front of everyone. Everyone has a quick laugh and so does he but I watched his face quickly shift to uncomfortableness after he attempts to laugh the insults off

That woman is a genuine piece of shit. Ugh

I truly wish there was something you could do to open his eyes so he can drop her scummy ass permanently.

[–]kunemhameha[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yep. It's very cringy to watch but she wasn't always like that. That leads me to believe that my father was constantly failing her shit tests and he's been failing to better himself in her eyes hence the disrespect ever so slowly building against him. Makes sense. I definitely agree that it's not right to go out of your way to disrespect someone but IT MAKES SENSE. Cause and effect were at work here. I love my father to death but he one reactive mofo.

[–]cfbovernfl1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Your father is going through a tough time and rather than talk to him and offer to help with counseling, etc., you want to send him a book. Yeah, that's what he needs lol. Jeez.

[–]kunemhameha[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, sir ;) You got it! Not just any book. ALL THE BOOKS! Every book you can think of! Not the ugly ducking though.. that might hurt his blue pill feelings 🧐

[–]Poofysmoof1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

You aren’t his father or his mother, you can’t really help him. You need to focus on yourself and make sure you do not end up like him. Yes he’s your father but just like any other friend, you can’t just hand out unwanted advice. I’m in the similar situation, but to help him only makes it worse for you. My father runs and tells my step mom anything I say and I’m not even trying to Redpill the man.

[–]kunemhameha[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I appreciate the concern. And you're absolutely right. But my father doesn't tell her everything and I know that. He tells me that he keeps a lot from her and I can actually vouch for that. He complains about her constantly. So... Here's the book. Here's the info. Don't like it? I understand, father. I have to try. I saw my father fight for my sister and I when my bio mum tried everything to shred him to pieces via court/child support/you fucking name it. My father fought tooth and nail for me. I will do the same for him.

[–]kunemhameha[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Edit: I just want to add that he was blue pill throughout that entire thing (he still is) but he's always expressed suspicion of the fem nature. I just want to try you know? Can't help but to say something when another male suffers at the extent of feminine nature.. These guys have no idea what's going on. Are we to sit by and watch? Or hand out a helping hand...knowing full well that it will mostly get bitten? I'll take my chances for some of you amazing mother fuckers on this planet.

[–]wyota2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

This is normal male behavior for boomers unfortunately

[–]kunemhameha[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Noticed that. Sucks that our fathers were conditioned in such a way that they couldn't teach us about masculinity. It is what it is and now we move forward.

[–]wyota1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

All their masculinity is directed towards supporting endless war in the Middle East, so this is what's left

[–]kunemhameha[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You're probably right for some but my father comes from a third world country and he just wants to experience life and left his masculinity behind when my biological mother tore him apart. My father lives in such a blue pill/purple reaching pill state. He's aware but not awoken. Again, you're not wrong, I see a lot of men coming back, desperately seeking comfort and attention from the fem. Makes sense.

[–]VigilantSmartbomb-2 points-1 points  (8 children) | Copy

Look at everyone mansplaning

There should ba a pdf somewhere of it- google translate is really good and there’s no cap to charactaers

[–]kunemhameha[S] 0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

That's not a bad idea. My father loves books and he'll definitely read the book if I got in a hard copy Spanish version. I'll try Google translate.

[–]Run_It_Down_Mid2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Instead of Google translate use DeepL. Its the best translator out there, i am using it for my university research

[–]kunemhameha[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Nice! What language are you translating?

[–]Run_It_Down_Mid1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

English to german, even though im quite fluent in english, there are some passages i cant understand fully since its academic language

[–]kunemhameha[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Ah, welcome to one of the most confusing languages ever invented. Which witch? They're there and it's theirs. Etc.

[–]VigilantSmartbomb1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

If it’s good enough for me to pass Spanish 3 ten years ago it should be good enough to translate the rational male- lol best of luck

[–]kunemhameha[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Ayee dabs menacingly

[–]VigilantSmartbomb1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

😂😂😂



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