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Title Paygap
Author mhandanna
Upvotes 914
Comments 34
Date 15 July 2020 04:57 PM UTC (3 months ago)
Subreddit antifeminists
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/713413
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/antifeminists/comments/hrraiw/paygap/
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[–]AbsoluteSereniti150 points151 points  (6 children) | Copy

Listen the whole pay gap thing is; and feminists know this as well. Men simply work more. Harder and Longer hours; and are more assertive about getting a pay rise.

This has even been proven in parliaments. When asked about the amount of time women worked vs men. They found men worked longer hours so naturally they earnt more. You work more you get paid more. It’s as simple as that.

Now, feminists are like “why are men working more?!” - start enforcing paternal leaves so men have to stay at home and raise children as well.

Like that’s just one of the many factors that contribute to men getting higher pays. Men naturally have an insane work ethic compared to women and choose more difficult and higher position jobs that require longer/harder working hours.

[–]Forerunner015 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

Compared to how long and hard they work, men actually get paid less.

[–]NibblyPig3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I read the other day one piece of evidence for the patriarchy is that men earn the most of any group once they reach around 40ish which is unfair.

The reason is actually than its around the age a lot of men become parents and they do the most amount of overtime of any group to step up and bring in extra income to support their families. I was irritated by the way this was twisted to say the least.

[–]itsalexcl1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

In words of a wise man," The reason why men are struggling today is because society tells them that their wish to be more productive and respected is somehow an outcome tyranny of patriarchy."

[–]Un-De_ad1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Men have insane work ethic? I’m feeling guilt here

[–]2000ber0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

We should wish for everyone to work less. I have recently read about the need for better rights, not just equal rights.

Why aim for equality through limiting/decreasing the rights of one gender, when we should aim for increasing rights for all.

[–]sanrio-sugarplum0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Paternal leave should be an option though

[–]OneTrueLordOfReddit45 points46 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's not even taking into account that the study is based on results where the gap was created because women worked less hours and took more holidays. I mean that's literally asking for less pay.

[–]seajayde[🍰] 43 points44 points  (14 children) | Copy

My Bamps (grandad) used to be a postman and there were always women who would complain about not getting paid as much while refusing to carry the heavy sacks. Always amazes me. But they will sqwark on about doing the exact same job. (And yes I know not all women are like this, I am one.)

[–]tbl446 points7 points  (12 children) | Copy

I sincerely appreciate your sentiment but just curious, why are you on this sub?

[–]seajayde[🍰] 13 points14 points  (11 children) | Copy

I'm on this sub for probably the same reason as anyone else is I'm anti extreme feminist. Why do you ask?

[–]tbl441 point2 points  (10 children) | Copy

Just curious as I said, being anti extreme feminist seems to be an unpopular sentiment with many women I know.

[–]seajayde[🍰] 16 points17 points  (5 children) | Copy

A lot of women are for equality and don't think any sex should get special treatment cos of their sex. Also will recognise all the bad shit men have to deal with and will speak up for them and try to help them. They are out there, I promise! I know I'm not the only woman here who thinks extreme feminists are batshit crazy.

[–]MrsDSL5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

34 year old woman here. I couldn’t agree with you more!

[–]tbl44-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks for your side, happy cake day!

[–]jolivarez8-4 points-3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Just wondering, would you consider yourself a feminist or egalitarian? Some people equate only one with equality and some equate both with it so I was kind of interested in a woman’s take on which seems a better movement to associate with.

[–]seajayde[🍰] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Well, I said I wasn't a feminist in a previous comment so that answers that. I can't speak for all women but I deffo think that being an egalitarian is the way to go. Some feminists are for equality but as with anything, you seem to have to wade through the shite to find the good people. Imo anyway.

[–]jolivarez80 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Ah, sorry that I didn’t catch that. I had just seen the anti-extreme feminist comments and some people can be a moderate feminist and be against the extremists so I wasn’t sure. Thanks for your insight, I know ya can’t speak for all women, but I am still interested in hearing what any women might think about these kinds of topics so I appreciate it.

[–]VestigialHead2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

There are more and more women taking this position everyday. They see the crazy harm that the extremists are doing and want no part of it.

[–]MrsDSL4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

I am a 34 year old woman and a conservative. Most women I know are anti feminists.

[–]megaSalamenceXX3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sadly most of the younger women I know dont share that sentiment.

[–]rockynputz1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Most people are for equality, they just hate feminists actions and words.

[–]WaylMaster1230 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Habby borning date

[–]zipflop9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

I hate when people try to argue for something and don't even look beyond the surface level. The pay gap is a prime example of this.

[–]spaghettbaguett2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

or seniority either. they whine about getting 83% of the same pay as a dude who's been working there in the same job as her for 12 years, when she's had that job for 12 months.

[–]YourFavNemesis2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Let us not forget about the hoes who blow their bosses for promotions and bonuses.

[–]Dr_Bukkakee2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I work with a female. In the last 4 years she has taken off for 4 1/2 months after having her toe operated on, a combination of 6 months for the two babies she had, and has left early multiple times due to crying fits after talking on the phone to her abusive husband. In that same amount of time I have had a kid and spinal surgery and only missed 3 weeks.

[–]conankudo16102 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy

Not a fan of this meme because there is a visbile difference in the number of carrots but the pay gap has been proven to be wrong.

[–]Bananas_r_people_212 points13 points  (3 children) | Copy

The pay gap exists but it’s not because of sexism or patriarchy it’s because men work harder and longer and more often.

[–]rockynputz6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

And it's only like 1-3%, It's funny women don't like to bring up how single women in their 20s early 30s out earn men.

[–]conankudo16101 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

No it doesn't. The pay gap is looking at women and men overall as earners. It claims that women get paid less solely for the fat that they're women. When what's actually happening is that men and women are paid the same depending on the fields they go into and the hours that they work. I get what you're saying but that's not what the pay gap is.

[–]SuperLutin-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

It does not exist.

google example

[–]zeerust20001 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The 'pay gap' is a difference in average earnings between men and women taken across the entire workforce. It's a valid statistic, as far as it goes. But feminists simply stop there and don't bother asking why the average earnings differ. They simply assume it has to be due to some kind of oppressive discrimination against women, when it actually isn't. It's due to many factors, including the fact that men on average work longer hours.

[–]sanrio-sugarplum0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

All of those reasons can be summed up into "different career choices"

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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