What methods do you use to gather info on a girl?

robesta · 2014-06-04T15:13:50+00:00

Bro, this is a good strategy to not get laid. If you want to get laid:

Don't have deep conversations, at least not initially. Kino escalate, tease playfully, don't take her seriously. Kiss her when you think she's ready and you want to. Don't get hung up on her. Treat her like your kid sister. In order for her to want to fuck you, she needs to think you're better than her.

redgamee · 2014-06-05T07:00:01+00:00

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kingofpoplives · 2014-06-16T00:30:16+00:00

The way OP frames this it comes off as stalking. You should be able to learn everything you need to know from the subtext of ordinary conversation, so there is no need to creepily "gather information on your target".

That said, I think this post is revealing the blind spot of the lower levels of red pill thinking.

An often missed principle of seduction is the ability to connect with someone.

Most ex-betas are so reactive against their old blue pill ways that they try so hard to be dominant. When you push it too far it comes off try hard and insecure. They believe that any trace of softness is beta and therefore bad. It is actually to very powerful to make yourself emotionally available. This is somewhat different from vulnerable.

The perfect seduction needs the right combination of excitement and safety. You need to appear assertive and non-needy, but you also need to make a woman feel like she isn't being used for sex.

If you generate too much attraction without enough safety, you come off as a player and some girls will be scared off because you seem like a guy who wants to hit it and quit it.

For a girl, giving it up to a guy and then being rejected by him feels like shit for obvious reasons. Don't get me wrong, some girls will still go for the over the top bravado player. True skill is being able to perceive what level of alpha a women needs and dial it up or down accordingly.

If you are highly attractive, it actually helps you to dial back off the alpha occasionally to appear relatable and endearing.

It also helps to accept that some girls just aren't looking for sex on the first date and you will do a lot better with them by patiently waiting and not pushing for it to early. These girls will fuck you, they want to fuck you, but they need a little time to get comfortable, so they feel like they are giving it up in the context of a short term relationship and not to some guy off the street. They need to feel like they know you because that makes them feel less slutty.

The one date wait also serves as a filter for men that are too thirsty and too beta.

That said, you will also get in trouble by waiting too long and missing your opportunities to escalate. Play it slow on date one if the girl seems conservative, but ramp it up by date two or you risk being categorized as a relationship guy. You need to be bold but also patient and mastering that mix takes a lot of experience.

thepillwastaken · 2014-06-04T19:04:11+00:00

You are not a RP brother, you are a guy who doesn't get it.

I don't add chics on Facebook, look at pinterest or insta or whatever shit app they are using. I barely talk to them when we are not in person.

Here is the point - girls are the ones who stalk guys. You are being one of them. Have a life and don't think about a girl when you are not with her.

And why are you calling her a target like you are some kind of bad ass? That sounds lame as hell.

Its a girl. She wants to get fucked really, really well. Thats all you need to know.

NoLongerSisyphus · 2014-06-05T00:33:05+00:00

Lousy strategy. You are supposed to be a man, not a stalker. Grow a pair, and go talk to her. Your approach is a bad approach for several reasons.

First, YOU aren't that man. If you were, you wouldn't have to pick her brain and change yourself. Second, you are now lying to her with the express purpose to get her into bed, this is not how high value men operate. Third, you are operating in her frame, not in your own frame, which means you have completely given control to this woman.

And lastly, women generally don't know what they want, except that they want the most high value man they can get. Be a high value man, and high value men don't do this shit.

2014-06-04T14:15:25+00:00

Is this guy serious?

2014-06-04T17:10:20+00:00

You are describing the blue pill mentality man.

Catering to a bitch, listening to her "feelings" and trying to make her "comfortable". That's bullshit bro, that's the kind of things that make women despise you more than a rapist.

You need to be assertive and confident. Male biological imperative is to fuck loads of bitches. Forget about "connections" or "deep conversations", women ARE BIOLOGICALLY HARDWIRED to look for an alpha male. All that shit you're describing is the typical beta approach to getting on with women.

To create a strong desire in women, first you need to look after yourself and build yourself, and not just focus on gaming girls, that's what adds real value to a male. Look up pictures of models and see if you have the complexions that they have. Notice that they often have a look of "I will fuck you until you're screaming my name" THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE NEED OF A WOMAN, NOTHING MORE.

Ingrain it in your head.

New_Horiz0ns · 2014-06-05T10:14:08+00:00

What's your name Vanilla face?

ThunderKraken · 2014-06-06T21:06:05+00:00

It's unfortunate this was never actually answered. Perhaps it's better asked elsewhere.

Though I don't think it's really what you're looking for, you could look up what puas like Strauss called "eliciting values". Or there is Spokeo.com

Title	What methods do you use to gather info on a girl?
Author	redgamee
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Comments	15
Date	June 4, 2014 1:10 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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