The nice guy thing really extends a lot past simply "being a man". Girls love to backwards rationalize things. For the most part women are not naturally rational thinkers when it comes to attraction, I say this with the caveat that women are looking for that "impulse" buy compared to the methodical study of 10 different men. Case in point, I just got jaw implant and chin implant cosmetic surgery done approximately 3 weeks ago. I have always felt like girls disrespect me for no reason, even when I'm neither being as ass nor being a friendly tampon. The irony is that I grew up playing a lot of varsity sports so most of my friends dont even think about getting laid... I would say the average lay count in my friend circle is probably around 20 most of which are cute to hot girls. I started realizing correlations when I first found TheRedPill, but the one tabboo no one mentions here is that nice versus bad boy is hammered into girls brains as "survivor" versus "victim" in stone age evo biology thinking. Ever since getting the cosmetic work done, I have realized a few different girls eyeing me. I have had a couple girls who I saw around for a couple months who completely ignore before come right up to me to tell me I looked good and when I asked what they were doing over the weekend, they invited me over to a party.

I feel like i wasted so much time in college when 2 hours of surgery was all I needed to reduce my going out "gaming" threshold by 1000s of hours per lay.

tl/dr: had cosmetic surgery done to make face more masculine. Outcome was great and difference in way girls treat me so far is staggering. If you have a serious looks problem I given well done cosmetic surgery two ecstatic thumbs up.