Where to marry and have kids?

cossackman · 2013-11-14T22:32:44+00:00

I've been to 30 countres and have met races and people of all nationalities. The reality is this: we live in a globalized world and women are women everywhere (unless you go wife hunting in the Amazonian Bush).

Tom Leykis is right - if you have a middle class income and want a kid then it's cheaper to do what gays do and hire a surrogate mother and then get a live in Nanny.

Live in Nannies cost around maybe $1500 a month or so but that's cheaper than losing half your assets and then paying vaginamony and child support when the bish gets custody of the kids.

trplurker · 2013-11-15T01:38:11+00:00

Ok slow down there. Women are the same around the entire world, your not going to find some magical land where biology is different. So first off learn that biology is biology and women will always follow their natural instincts. What makes westernized nations so bad is that the social rules and traditional barriers put in place to control hypergamy and other female bullshit don't exist. If you go to another country where those barriers still exist, then you have extra layers of assurance that she won't be dick hopping as much. Also various social stigma's can exist inside a culture that limit a women's options.

Since I know East Asia the most I'll give it how it is. I've lived here going on 10+ years now and have pretty much gone native. In Korea / Japan there is a strong social stigma against having children outside of a family environment. There is also a large amount of social credit placed on being a good wife and mother. If after marriage a women hoes it up she gets publicly shamed. If she's publicly ostracizing her husband then she's considered no better then him, as in the worse she makes him look the worse she herself looks. And while girls party like crazy before marriage, there is still a very strong social reward attached to the sweet innocent girl image.

So when you put that all together you get a situation where a girl can ride the cock carousal bu realizes she is lowering her value if it's public. They fuck around just as much but tend to keep it on the down low and don't go around publicly encouraging it. There is huge social pressure / expectation for her to marry before 30 as it's considered only loser men marry post-30 women. She's also expected to have kids, so are you btw. Once married she won't disrespect you in public as she doesn't want to make herself look bad, but in private you'll see the typical women bullshit, deal with it RP style.

In the west we tend to have a "fuck everyone" attitude and ignore things like social norms and family expectations. In East and South East Asian countries they place an inordinate amount of value into what other people think of them. You can use that to control them just like our grandfathers and great grandfathers did to their western wives.

Just be careful, if she feels she no longer needs to follow those social obligations she will revert to her natural mode of operation. Fuck the best alpha and force the weaker one to pay for it.

GeneralTry · 2013-11-14T22:22:12+00:00

I am a male living in Mexico, lived in the States for aobut 8 years but found a job afte college.

No way am I going to deal with American women's bullshit, they never grow up.

As far as hypergamy goes though, it's magnified here in Mexico. Tenfold.

Economic success plays a MUCH larger role here.

karneadou · 2013-11-15T07:09:18+00:00

I have lived all over the world from Mexico to Russia, Greece, US etc... Women are the same everywhere, its biology...this cannot be undone.

However what does matter is choice. As Chris Rock said "you are only as faithful as your choices".

In countries where men outnumber women, you are going to have trouble (Greece and Italy). In countries where women are in abundance, you are king (Russia, Romania, Ukraine). The wealthy and famous always have the best women around, the rest of us have to play with the numbers.

Don't ever, ever go to southern europe to hook up or marry local girls. Simple fact is too many sausages everywhere (tons of betas, matriarchal society) so even average to ugly women have boyfriends and tons of attitude. Men are left clinging on to relationships because of the lack of choice. Side note...this is the real, simple reason why Greece and Italy are broke as a nation and society. They placed uber value on the woman and beta men, and absolutely shat on the single alpha man. This lead to societal, and eventual economic disaster.

Eastern Europe and FSU countries give you best value for money. On average 60% women to 40% men ratios. You attract the hottest of the hot, and women are holding on to you because of your options and choices to move on, upgrade or whatever.

WARNING! Never ever marry an E.E. or FSU woman and proceed to bring here to the West. DON'T DO IT! She will cause you a world of pain and hurt. To enjoy these women (their looks, loyalty and femininity) whether in marriage or in a relationship, you have to stay in country. Remember the more women around the more your woman will do her utmost to hold on to you.

Shababubba · 2013-11-14T22:38:53+00:00

Mormons

I-skid-on-your-grave · 2013-11-15T14:22:23+00:00

I don't know why no-one ever mentions Africa here, so I'll put in my two cents.

Africa's a good place to start if you want a woman that is hard-working (takes being a housewife seriously), loyal (not all, but most of the women I know stick by their men through all the shit in the world. If you want a continent filled with women still married to cheating assholes, sometimes paying the bills and still being a good wife, here it is!), good in bed (some of the cultures on the continent make it very clear that women should know how to please their men. Before the wedding ceremony a woman is sat down by older women and told pleasing her men (sexually) should be her highest priority), appreciate masculinity, have great figures (compared to African americans) and our local cuisines are usually low-fat plant-based foods and take care of their bodies well into middle-age (my mum is 50 and goes to the gym everyday), beautiful (I'm not so impressed by what afro-americans consider pretty - here, natural looks (minus hair extensions / makeup) are appreciated more), very grateful for marriage and in my culture a woman isn't really considered an adult till she's married, and when she gets married she doesn't belong to her family anymore so divorce would leave her desserted.

This is obviously my own view, living in a generally middle-income African nation (70% of women have uni-level education). My bf is from US and seems extremely happy with me. Is taking time to get used to the masculinity I expect from him but seems grateful for it.

The only thing I'd say: try to limit your searches to middle-class women or those that grew up with two parents (which might be tricky) and you'll be forever grateful.

PS. If you are interested in white women primarily, you can go for Afrikaner women in SA. Very traditionalist and feminine however are more prone to flight and frivorce than most; which is kinda tragic, cause Afrikaner men are good husbands if you're into the farmer/mechanic type. (Very hard-working men) so if you do go for these women don't expect many that can keep a very high-level conversation but they'll be good wives and mothers if you can keep up with the competition. (You'd have to out-alpha Boer men, which is really tricky)

Generally African women (black/white/indian/chinese) are used to hyper-masculinity. So your choices are limited to the lower-class (have no choice but to marry foreigner for cash) and the middle-class girls with self-hate issues (worship whiteness) and those are a major flight-risk (talk about hypergamy).

zxcvbnm000 · 2013-11-15T02:38:18+00:00

You're impression might have something to do with which part of the U.S. you're in. There are definitely foreign possibilities with their own pros and cons, but don't go ruling out the U.S. entirely just yet.

It's never going to be paradise, but the landscape can be a lot different from state to state. If you haven't been out to the sticks somewhere you should give it a look sometime. As someone mentioned there's also the Mormons who are still pretty traditional. Hell, you could try to live with the Amish/Mennonites if you're willing to take on that lifestyle.

I definitely see your concern though, when they have schools and they internet, any kids would be likely to pick up some of the mainstream culture.

2013-11-15T03:26:19+00:00

I've visited countries in Latin America and I can say the family unit looks alive and well there. It might not be what it seems so assume the best and be cautious of the worst.

2013-11-15T16:51:31+00:00

I was never outside Europe, so no personal experience, but isn't Latin America a fairly obvious choice for you? Latin America is famous for Catholicism and a culture of machismo so I guess a traditional family model works there. I mean not in the inner city of Buenos Aires, and probably not the famous beauty pagenat winners of Venezuela either, but someplace bit old fashioned.

Tastysalad101 · 2013-11-14T22:13:12+00:00

I'm also wandering this.

gstvtrp · 2013-11-14T22:14:54+00:00

Fuck that dude. Maybe if you find the wife abroad and bring her to the states. Or just find foreign women here. There's plenty of Hispanics.

2013-11-14T23:34:09+00:00

Just get over the fact that you're going to have a "wife". Instead just find a woman you can have a child with, i'm guessing plenty of girls in their late 20's become pretty obsessed with this.

Title	Where to marry and have kids?
Author	I-skid-on-your-grave
Upvotes	14
Comments	34
Date	November 14, 2013 9:51 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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