Women are born with what Men want and desire. Men have to change and adapt into something that women desire. Mostly, that change is in the form of 'success'.

TrilogyofaCaveman444 · 2021-05-05T18:51:49+00:00

Calling BS. Look, there are gold diggers out there, don't get me wrong.

BUT today's batch of women KNOW that they do not have to settle down with a successful man to get his resources. ;)

This fits PUA well.

Grandpa_MGTOW · 2021-05-05T23:02:55+00:00

"Women are born with what men want and desire" is so broad as to be meaningless. How does thinking this help you? What does it even mean? Are you just doing the keyboard equivalent of rubbing one out while thinking about women?

No offense, but some neurons had to die for you to form these ideas. It's a waste of good neurons that you could have used for considering your own self-improvement.

Let me challenge you: tell me exactly what you are referring to. Expand your proposal and give me practical examples and solutions if you regard this as some kind of problem. (Pro-tip for those entering the workforce: never tell your boss about a problem without also giving them a possible solution. It makes you appear pro-active)

A bit of tough-love from your MGTOW Gramps!

MeisterMGTOW · 2021-05-05T19:28:58+00:00

What does this have to do with going your own way?!?

Impossible-asset · 2021-05-06T02:04:42+00:00

Post removed. If you want to make posts that focus on women, you need to post sources to back up your rationale. Otherwise there is no context for discussion hete. It's just an echochamber post. Rule 9.

King_Yautja · 2021-05-05T19:23:47+00:00

It's nothing to do with society. Women are born with what men want; youth, beauty and fertility. What we want from them is inherent to the state of being a young woman. What women want from men is good genes, protection and provision. You're only born with 1 out of 3.

What society has done is unleash the female mate seeking strategy while demonising and pathologizing any attempt by men to hold them to any sort of standard. They are born with what we want and they waste it. They only bitch and moan when it runs out.

__Vandetta__ · 2021-05-05T23:14:09+00:00

Bugger, gents if you're gonna dunk on the dude at least answer his questions after that.

Personally this is the way I see it, biologically speaking, both Men and Women are born with what each gender wants, it's obvious. The Mating process is often genetic based, I.e Its Unconscious and one's genetics are looking for suitable genetics on another to make more with. - Unconscious level. Ones Genetics also change with one's health and our bodies can detect that even if our consciousness doesn't. (Ever seen someone who actually looked healthy, they were probably attractive to you).

Male to a Female - Good health increases his likelihood of survival, likelihood of a positive strong mindset(includes percieved status) likelihood of producing healthy sperm, ability to protect her if need be and himself, and ability to socially dominate others to increase his status/power.

Female to a Male - Good health increases her likelihood of successfully producing children, likelihood of ability to regulate and control her hormones and by extension emotions, her ability to socialize properly(ability to learn do's/don'ts in the group) and their ability to protect herself if the need arises, logically this would extent to the children she produces but I'm unsure about that because if we look at our closest relatives in the AK-Chimps, we've found the Females of the group will allow an attacking group to kill their young if it means their survival.

As you can see, everything is based from looks/percieved health which gives indicators of what the person Is like. Ye ever see a really unhealthy person and you're repulsed by them plus you see them as ugly, that's your genetics saying fuck off don't bring me near those. - Completely Unconscious, whatever you choose to do after that feeling has registered is likely to be conscious but driven by the unconscious.

Then this is where we get into the psychology of biology, both Men and Women will employ their own social tests to see if the person they're interested in checks all the percieved health indicators I mentioned above with some willingness to exclude at least 1 indicator.

Where I think our society has gone really wrong is by not acknowledging these indicators and how they drive us on the unconscious level, instead we've embraced sloth and let that push us along, it doesn't even drive it just pushes. Sloth is socially acceptable and it's killing everyone.

The Truth is, the vast majority of people are incredibly biologically unhealthy, this affects both their body and mind and dampens their genetic potential and people can see that, but don't seem to see it on themselves. But we do have tech to aid our slothfulness so that's nice.

It's interesting because I keep seeing actual MGTOWs increasing their health and ooohh what do you know they become happier, stronger, faster, smarter and Women start chasing them. But, these Women often aren't happy to put the work into increasing their health and we pick up on those negative indicators, resulting in us rejecting them. You can see biological lacking health in one's personality.

Now, we don't live in Tribes anymore but every operation in our body's is Tribal, look at the power hierarchy in one of your own groups and you'll be able to relate it to Chimps.

As far as I'm concerned, our society is set up like a Neanderthal Tribe and they all went extinct as far as we know, and this also seems to be spilling into the friend/family tribe unit aswell, making this far worse.

ZlayerXZ · 2021-05-05T19:44:03+00:00

Yeah but only if you created an organization to steal men’s wealth and freedom and give it up to women, I wonder if such organization exists 💭?? Isn’t it the government, everything at gunpoint, so it’s men cowardice the source of his own undoing.

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