neoindigenous living.

[–]2018Henry 1 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]GrisBosque 1 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]GrisBosque 1 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I always hafta put the explanation and any build instructions in comments.

Also use replies to expand on things.

Started out on r/mgtow. So there's guys onto my habits as an instigator, and plenty of back reading/educational material there in my back posts if you get bored in your edition of miserable existance.... 😂

What you are looking at is a modern version of a steamer trunk. Tomorrow likely to post a smaller Sailor's trunk version.

The idea is 1800's or earlier when guys would build boxes for their treasures. So they could be adaptive to life.

The steamer trunk size allowed moving via ship or Rail Road, big enough to load with things for daily livingry at the far end.

I'm currently finishing a dozen of these in the two sizes, before I start doing other sizes... estimate is two dozen total for everything I own.

What they do is allow you to organize, store, or transport your stuff easily and efficiently...

Boxes are a guy thing mostly. Now almost forgetten.

"The Sage teaches the people what they have forgotten." (Tao)

Even one box will improve your life... Treasures went into what?

My buddy calls this project; "box mania"...

But think about it! what could you stick in a box? what could you enjoy about building one?

its a simple timeless concept.

My personal goal is to get everything I own "Expeditionary"...

Imagine that! a guy who can move in a couple hours, ship his stuff secure, store it compact, know where everything is, & sit his fat ass on one playing guitar or violin.

(Actually started this concept, thinking about building one like an 1800's Sailor's trunk for a wet bar.... you know: a bottle or two of Rum, some wine, mugs and wine glasses, maybe an ice bucket? and party portable... sure the smaller Bong 'N Stash version possible?) 😆

Just want you guys to think about boxes and Sailor's trunks today... or Army footlockers?

boxes are practical and useful. you can build them in appartments or at some job sites...

Ain't nobody stoppin' ya....

[–]GrisBosque 1 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I always hafta put the explanation and any build instructions in comments.

Also use replies to expand on things.

Started out on r/mgtow. So there's guys onto my habits as an instigator, and plenty of back reading/educational material there in my back posts if you get bored in your edition of miserable existance.... 😂

What you are looking at is a modern version of a steamer trunk. Tomorrow likely to post a smaller Sailor's trunk version.

The idea is 1800's or earlier when guys would build boxes for their treasures. So they could be adaptive to life.

The steamer trunk size allowed moving via ship or Rail Road, big enough to load with things for daily livingry at the far end.

I'm currently finishing a dozen of these in the two sizes, before I start doing other sizes... estimate is two dozen total for everything I own.

What they do is allow you to organize, store, or transport your stuff easily and efficiently...

Boxes are a guy thing mostly. Now almost forgetten.

"The Sage teaches the people what they have forgotten." (Tao)

Even one box will improve your life... Treasures went into what?

My buddy calls this project; "box mania"...

But think about it! what could you stick in a box? what could you enjoy about building one?

its a simple timeless concept.

My personal goal is to get everything I own "Expeditionary"...

Imagine that! a guy who can move in a couple hours, ship his stuff secure, store it compact, know where everything is, & sit his fat ass on one playing guitar or violin.

(Actually started this concept, thinking about building one like an 1800's Sailor's trunk for a wet bar.... you know: a bottle or two of Rum, some wine, mugs and wine glasses, maybe an ice bucket? and party portable... sure the smaller Bong 'N Stash version possible?) 😆

Just want you guys to think about boxes and Sailor's trunks today... or Army footlockers?

boxes are practical and useful. you can build them in appartments or at some job sites...

Ain't nobody stoppin' ya....

[–]delsystem32exe 1 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]GrisBosque 1 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah, I've done that to wood projects before and loved the effect.

Did a kitchen table that way years ago.

Cant do it with these as the plywood I can get locally in Panama is weird. has a literally paper thin veneer over some pretty iffy core. if you torched it that veneer would just burn thru.

I'm looking forward to getting back to the US and better materials... The third world has serious availablity and selection issues. You have to take what you can get, and its often very low quality, as people with little money buy the cheapest.

Like you cant get decent plastic kitchen containers in my area, all flimsy... All the rope and cloth is factory seconds with weird colors that didnt sell elsewhere..

You'd have to experience it to understand.

But I'm looking forward to continuing to build nicer boxes in the US.

I'm literally using a skillsaw because there are no table saws for sale locally.

I just got a miter saw because one showed up in a local store.

I want to do some classic Sailor's trunks in hardwood eventually.

I enjoy making things always have, but the third world is like hell school for having to use any available resources.

Aint no home Depot level store within hundreds of miles...

[–]delsystem32exe 1 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

i got you. i think third worlds also have enourmous resources if you leverage them correctly.... See lowes and HD kind of suck sometimes... Once you already have a decent workshop of tools, you are good and dont need anymore. You just go there for lumber really... I can get romex cable from junkyards for free. There was also some steel railroad track too which can be used for anvils and all sorts of stuff. I personally like junkyards and harborfreight better than lowes and HD. You can probably get slab lumber, which you can't get in the US you can get tropical hardwoods which can make great furniture... You can get steel tubing much cheaper and they have better steel supplies than the US. The voltage is 240/480 and many houses get 240 + 3 phase, allowing you to run industrial equipment unlike the US 120 standard... You can outsource some building projects to locals....

[–]GrisBosque 1 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The problem with resources, is that they are getting used up. They literally burnt most of it to create cow pastures, and logged off the best stuff and sold it to build shithole cities, and never replanted anything good.

Also depends on where you are, and what kind of people you are with.

Where I am right now theres a type of locust that I'd love to work with that they plant for live fence posts and then cut to make standard fence posts, its a wood I have worked with before. But they are so wrapped up in their own trips, even offering to buy slab lumber gets no response.

Basically they have to need something for you to have any leverage to get anything from them.

And then they want to screw you or they arent interested.

Theyre not real thinkers. Theyre in the moment and self focused.

As for tools and electricity; If I could drive eight hours and spend three nights in hotels and hunt all over Panama City, I could likely find what ever I needed.

My nearest major city is David, theres one mall with one store that sells home improvement type stuff, and they sell a few hand tools like saws, drills, and grinders. No table saws, bandsaws, lathes, or other bench tools.

And their electric system depends on where you are. I'm literally just over a hill from a major hydro station that feeds power to distant cities, and the only electricity is one line from small town to small town along a highway. Everything else is dark.

Theres been electricity into my little valley for years, but they stopped short. 60 people living in the dark for wanting a thousand yard extension.

They started working on it about three years ago. Finally got poles in, and street lights on into the middle of nowhere, but have never connected the houses. The fire inspector couldn't get off his ass to inspect the house wiring to ok the drops. I think it will take them four years to finally complete, what would have been a two week project in the US...

And I was told that its been in process 25 years. that minor extension.

People have literally died of old age never having power, because the local bureaucracy has their thumb up their butt.

I got an opportunity on a 5.5Kw diesel genny and snagged it.

So I can use whatever tools and materials I can get.

Which ain't much.

Its why I'm moving back to the US. Access to resources, and ability to actually do things.

Like I said: you cant fix these people. the third world is as it is because they built it.

Its a conglomeration of what they do to each other.

I'm going to show up, be basically starting at zero with a few tools, and showing how to get from homeless to self sufficiency one project at a time.

After decades in the third world, to me homeless in the US will be the opportunity of a lifetime.

My VA Rep knows about what I have been doing, seen images of things I've made, and screenshots of people's reactions, and knows I'm starting to get followers.

And knows I can design and teach things on videos that would allow guys to get a leg up.

So, I will be having a meeting with their business councilor, and getting connected to people. And will hit the ground running. I will be designing and making whatever I need, and it will be stuff alot of others need.

I'm very adept at creative problem solving.

And I work in all mediums.

Also have a history in construction, in fact have a degree in it.

But have always loved doing simple solutions.

And I have stuff that I have designed and prototyped that I havent shown. Things that might have serious market potential.

I can literally start businesses.

So... it will be interesting. Will show up with my stuff in boxes. Buy a vehicle, and go from there.

But my goal is always self sufficiency, and subsistence. To me the technocult is a goldmine.

And I'm quite adept at scrap yards etc.

Basically I'm an artist in designing and making things, and can do anything I need or want.

[–]delsystem32exe 1 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]GrisBosque1 point 6 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Yeah... I'll name it Neoindigenous something... and likely try to boot more than on you tube in case the PC Nazis decide they dont like my content.

Learned long ago in business that people in the same business often become friends and allies...

ie us both doing making things videos is likely to have us communicating and sharing ideas etc.

Cross pollenization...

I'm not an adversarial type. Like it when I can help or people use ideas and do their own expressions.

One learns more that way...

So, not sure when borders will open, and my buddy is going to drive down to extract me, my boxes full of personal stuff, and my two Muttley buddies, but guessing in the fall. He's in Oregon right now, as things were getting iffy with the virus in the area he has a place in Baja. Mexican habits and medical system.

So chances are I will be chanel booting after that. Will be going to Arizona, getting wheels, and likely starting in a tent...

But I've been living open air for decades, and will start building upgraded shelter videos. Have a design for a Yurt/Tipi cross, and a Gypsy camper. Which should make nice video fodder.

And I have my genny and basic tools, and can start building things ahead of myself. Heading for eventual self sufficiency and subsistence. Both of which I know really well.

Which are subjects alot of people want to learn about now.

So starting out as a homeless Vet, and building and doing up from the bottom, should be almost shocking to many.

I suspect the videos will create kind of a story line. How to start with very little, and use mind and skills, to seriously better one's life. Its all stuff I know. To me this is just gonna be fun and tongue in cheek.

No depressed homeless guy resorting to substance abuse...

More of a "hold my beer" attitude.

Having little is actually a freedom.

It means theres only one direction possible; making things better.

And I've over wintered in Tipis and Yurts in snow before.... And made things with minimal tools and whatever I could get my hands on.

I've pretty much already done everything... in the way of what the chanel will be about.

I hope to astound and to get people beyond their fear, when it comes to creating their own designer lifestyle.

[–]maxtorrz 1 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]GrisBosque 1 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah! but normalcy looks so boring!

And I 'll soon have most of my stuff organized into bunches of these... I observed young that people are always moving... And think everywhere is a forever home.

Stats say average person moves every three years in the US...

Liquor box run? packing and unpacking, endless loose crap...

Everything of mine is going into boxes. Tools, excess kitchen stuff, clothing, fishing gear, ropes and horse tack.... you name it...

Next move in the fall...

When I get to next location: I can just place the boxes, and I'm unpacked....

Three or four of size shown and a single mattress pad on top, its time for a snooze...

Tomorrow will post the smaller size I'm doing... First one got my Jeep kitchen... one grab, lets go camping!

Second got "cabin in the woods tools", lets throw it in the canoe and make shit in the woods!

you? totes? buckets? crap in a closet you dont own?

Not just a box.... a way of living more free...

If you dont like it, dont make any... I'll see you forking out money at the liquor store for boxes you'll throw away next week.

"The more you make, the more you learn. The more you buy, the more you need to earn."

Grimace at the next crap your boss comes up with.... I've been camping everyday for decades...

Indians fought thousands of battles, for generations, to avoid free housing... (maybe they knew something?)

Pay them bills man! curtsey for your betters...

😂

[–]GrisBosque 1 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah! but normalcy looks so boring!

And I 'll soon have most of my stuff organized into bunches of these... I observed young that people are always moving... And think everywhere is a forever home.

Stats say average person moves every three years in the US...

Liquor box run? packing and unpacking, endless loose crap...

Everything of mine is going into boxes. Tools, excess kitchen stuff, clothing, fishing gear, ropes and horse tack.... you name it...

Next move in the fall...

When I get to next location: I can just place the boxes, and I'm unpacked....

Three or four of size shown and a single mattress pad on top, its time for a snooze...

Tomorrow will post the smaller size I'm doing... First one got my Jeep kitchen... one grab, lets go camping!

Second got "cabin in the woods tools", lets throw it in the canoe and make shit in the woods!

you? totes? buckets? crap in a closet you dont own?

Not just a box.... a way of living more free...

If you dont like it, dont make any... I'll see you forking out money at the liquor store for boxes you'll throw away next week.

"The more you make, the more you learn. The more you buy, the more you need to earn."

Grimace at the next crap your boss comes up with.... I've been camping everyday for decades...

Indians fought thousands of battles, for generations, to avoid free housing... (maybe they knew something?)

Pay them bills man! curtsey for your betters...

😂

[–]DangZagnut 1 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]GrisBosque 1 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]GrisBosque 1 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'll get there Dang! nobody and nuthin' ever stops me! I go around, over, or thru obsticals!

Looks like extraction timing about September. Borders still closed here, but at least can travel around Panama now...

Planning on doing the video chanel when I hit Arizona, and probably build several "Yurpis' for prototypes of portable shelters. Do videos of each one, so others can use my designs, and if necessary stack up pieces in an appartment.

Will also do constant subsistence and self sufficiency projects and videos ahead of myself.

Show you guys how to exit the system by making things you'll need.

Have a Mgtow brother teaching me about online social media etc. who wants to also come to AZ to be an apprentice and help with projects and doing the videos... way more computer literate than I am...

it goes from there! my objective is to teach you guys how to weaponize your hobbies to exit the system. You'll do your own interpretations and styles. But I'm going to create a hybrid culture one artifact at a time, and keep them open sourced.

Nothing stopping you guys from building Sailor's trunks now.

Up to you... cherry pick my creations for what suits your vision quest.

This is my revenge on the system for divorce rape and losing my kids! create a thousand splended "Sons"...

All happily moving towards the exits as they see fit.

[–]delsystem32exe 1 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]GrisBosque1 point 6 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

No, I just make things for personal use generally. Have never been a money head type, more DIY and a bit artistic, fairly eccentric.... I like making things and crazy adventures...

I think boxes would make a good business, Theyre a utility item and people will buy them at any quality level from exquisite hardwoods to used hand grenade crates.

What I'm gonna do is start a chanel on making things. Mostly for self sufficency, but will be teaching things that can be used to start businesses.

I think people will be amazed. I tend to be unique. and have a strange ability to design and make things that look pretty good. you might check my back posts six months or so back....

They were popular. or Search Neoindigenous living on google, some of it pops up.

I'm moving back to the US so I can get better resources and tools and start the chanel. Have lived over twenty five years in the tropics...

[–]delsystem32exe2 points 6 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

[–]GrisBosque2 points 6 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Thanks!

I have another mgtow brother thats helping with online related stuff. recomending and researching options.

Also teaching me different facets of social media..

Lived in Costa Rica & Panama.

Every country is a little different. Biggest problem is lack of integrity. The third world is problematic due to how the people are. They're not "Poor Dears" they create it.

Climate depends on altitude, ocean currents and rainfall patterns. Also lattitude. And how much the ambient has been degraded. Basically Latins are traditionally rancher types and exterminated forests to create pasture, even on steep mountians in areas with incredible amounts of rain.

So they think nothing of erosion...

Basically a culture of exploitation any way necessary that gets them money to look good or eat alot of fat.

Which is why the virus is nailing them. high rates of diabetes, sub marginal medical systems, and a culture of half assed habits.

Dont get me started......

The average American lasts about two years here and gets fed up.

Ive been here over twenty five.

Know them better than they know themselves...

You cant fix them.

[–]delsystem32exe2 points 6 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

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[–]GrisBosque 1 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah, I was happy to see them doing that... kinda took the edge off their trip for everybody frowning. 😂

Bottom line is coming to a consensus.

Do the police need to clean up their act? You bet!

Do the Robber Barrons need to realize cause and effect? that too!

Basic thing on Capitalism, is we drive it with purchase choices...

If we all buy bushcraft hatchets, they'll be climbing on top of each other with different models and options.

Gotta take personal responsibility! Realize that its what we do as individuals that has the real power.

If we all decide to get out of cities and plant orchards, the sellers of related tools and products will follow us like dogs!

As has been said: the way to change the system is not thru revolution, but building a better replacement.

You gotta be smarter than the dog to teach it a trick.

Boxes? another one of my silly projects.... but it has power...

If guys start building Sailor's trunks, everyone else will wonder what the hell is going on....

Meanwhile, back at the Ranch, its a first step to freedom... Do I care what guys put in their boxes? Hardly! can be video games, or their Steampunk garb.

Boxes are liberation technologies... I've built boxes since I was a kid and saw one my grandfather built.

I've had boxes stolen... a sure sign theyre a good thing!

We all can use boxes for something.

And my last box will likely be for garden tools...

Will I go garden in Seattle? hardly!

I'm not that dumb! cabbage and fungus climate....

But my gift for today is the concept of building boxes. I dont care about BS politics, I care about us all getting shed of the crap from any direction.

Sure the Cops could use some boxes too? They'll hafta build their own, just like everybody else... 😆

[–]VestigialHead 1 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]GrisBosque 1 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Hi guys! I'm baaaaack!

The image is one of the Sailor's trunks I've been working on. Thats the larger size. 16x24x32 inches... it works nice getting no waste out of a sheet of plywood.

Also doing a 12x16x24 size... which is also even numbers on plywood sheet usage....

Making six of each size being a one man production line... Planning to build more than the original dozen. after I get these done, will start odd sizes.

Strange color, is attempting to work towards desert camo... you are looking at my interpretation of the color "sage" from photos of scenes in Arizona.

Why Sailor's trunks?

because I want every bleeping thing I own organized and protected, kept clean, and easy to move.

Goal is a two hour load up time when extraction trip from Central America happens.

Also by having everything "Expeditionary" there will be benefits if I have to rent a storage unit, or can load everything on a small trailer etc.

Plus it keeps me sane to be making progress getting my own shit together when I cant do anything else!

Reason I am posting this is for mental fodder for my fellow Mgtow Minimalists.... the concept of creating furnitures that store and organize your topls and crap, that you can sit on, move easily, use in your camper Van or M-35 truck. or put in a tent or a house....

Have catecories going like fishing gear, kitchen stuff, hobby tools, clothing, horse tack etc.

Everything will be labled, able to stack or spread out, and be a positive improvement in my daily life, or be Adventure ready.

[–]TXsoldier88 1 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]GrisBosque 1 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm using locally available in the third world materials and tools.

Ripping pine 1x4's and 2x4's for the framing, and half inch plywood for the sides, tops and bottoms. doing six of each of the two first sizes. Have a skillsaw, and Milwaukee screw gun. Doing these in a remote rural area in northern Panama using a 5.5kw genny for power. Next month another trip to David Panama for more plywood.

Mixing paint colors myself for interior and exterior colors. Using a sky blue and light green on interiors to aid in seeing inside. and experimenting with base colors exterior heading for Arizona specific camouflage exteriors.

Thinking now it will require a couple dozen of these in various sizes to box everything I own.

Not ever gonna use cardboard boxes to move again. Creating a permanent system.

All my books will be in smaller boxes I can stack on their sides etc.

The idea is to get everything I own organized in an instantly Expeditionary system. Where I can load out in a couple hours, or fill a smaller storage unit, or haul on a small trailer efficiently...

its minimalism taken to the next level.

Not planning on any bitches, but imagine the power of being able to move out in no time! 😂

also can use in the future in portable dwelling structures. Thinking to get a nice handcart for handling.

Where all my posessions are in categories.

These Sailor's trunks are all glued and screwed together, all have bottom rails for ventilation, and lid designs to shed water. Will add hasps and hinges when I get back to US and combo locks.

Absolute personal control of everything I own.

Gotta do odd sizes next for archery gear, Concrete finishing tools, Gun selection, etc. will also build trays and interior organizers.

The concept is to have my own shit together to Milspec levels, and everything protected from dirt, rodents, insects, etc.

Gonna be fun watching people realize what I've done. And in the future when I buy things, will build boxes for it.

Also want to get a shipping container and shelving when I get a land hunk.

Working everything up from the bottom, where I can be out in the desert doing projects that steadily improve my life.

Fed up with the bleeping system. I'm in process getting out and away from human caused problems. These boxes are a step I can do waiting for borders to open.

All I care about is using my skills and cash flow to improve my life. Am weaponizing my hobby of making things. Heading for absolute self sufficiency...

And sharing with you guys to give you ideas. Any guy can build boxes. Mobility is security.

Title	neoindigenous living.
Author	GrisBosque
Upvotes	34
Comments	31
Date	June 13, 2020 10:35 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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