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U.S. Soccer: Equal FIFA prize money 'untenable'

m2niles

June 16, 2021
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http://www.espnfc.com/united-states-usaw/story/4410491/us-soccer-president-on-equal-pay-making-up-difference-in-fifa-money-untenable
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Title U.S. Soccer: Equal FIFA prize money 'untenable'
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m2niles

Upvotes 167
Comments 31
Date June 16, 2021 4:21 AM UTC
(5 years ago)
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[–]Moist-Scientist9786 64 points65 points66 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Once they bring in the money the men do come talk to me

[–]53withtrollhair 57 points58 points59 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In the words of Norm MacDonald, 'The next women's soccer game that I will watch, will be the first women's soccer game I watch.'

[–]Sage010101 90 points91 points92 points 5 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

The US Women's soccer team lost to a bunch of school kids. How can they demand equal pay is beyond me.

[–]Ayrab4Trump 38 points39 points40 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The whole thing is a shit test

To see if they can convince the mass public this is reasonable via circle rhetoric and emotions.

Once that happens expect men to have to pay women for existing

[–]Iamlegend_future 55 points56 points57 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

It's actually worse. They were offered the exact same pay structure the men get and they rejected it. Now they want to retroactively have the contract changed because in this tiny window they would have made more under the men's contract but they had no complaints all the other times when their contract paid more than what they would get with the men's contract. They're not looking for equality. They're just greedy.

[–]_____Kirby_____ 37 points38 points39 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It's actually even worse than that.

They sued to try and retroactively change ONLY the bonus structure of the contracts, but they demanded to keep all the additional benefits of their contracts at the same time. So they are arguing not for equal pay, but for greater pay!

[–]Whitey98 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

ITS ACTUALLY WORSE THAN THAT! not sure how but it seemed like the right thing to say.

[–]LondonDude123 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It kinda is worse when you consider that Megan Rapinoe (whos been the main champion in all this) has pretty poor stats for a Winger.

Pulled from Wikipedia because I dont think Transfermarkt tracks Womens Football, she has 50 Goals in 160 Games for Club, and 57 Goals in 199 for Country. Thats about a 0.33 ratio for Club, and 0.25 for Country. Now bare in mind that around half of her Countries goals were in non-competitive fixtures, and she plays in a weaker league than who im comparing with.

Wayne Rooney (Englands top scorer) has a GPG Ratio of 0.45 for Club, and 0.44 for country. Thats playing half of his career in Midfield as well. Alan Shearer (Premier Leagues top scorer) has around a 0.5 for both club and country, albiet from Striker position.

So in competition with weaker players, Rapinoe herself cant match the standard of the mens game. Just remember that.

[–]Ashurbanipal631BCE 12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The kids can ask for equal pay then

[–]Gypsy-Jesus 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because vagina

[–]oxfordcircus007 28 points29 points30 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Just negotiate the prices as % points, instead of absolute figures. And pay men and women the same % of earnings their matches get. Problem solved.

[–]Iamlegend_future 27 points28 points29 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

they won't accept that. They were offered the exact same contract the men got but rejected it. Now they want to retroactively change the contract to the one the men got.

[–]d_nijmegen 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

So what if they don't accept it? Dump the chicks and let others play who would love a chance

[–]Revolutionary_Rip876 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Doesnt matter in 5 years the womens league will be the transleague

[–]d_nijmegen 11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They might actually be able to beat teenage boys then, I'd watch that πŸ˜‚

[–]000Murbella000 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That won't happen, right now women teams are loosing money, they live from men teams revenue.

[–]CazRaX 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What's new?

[–]GroundbreakingEase00 12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Keep kicking subway sandwiches 🀣

[–]100pc-not-a-robot 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If they want the same pay as men, they should compete for places in the mens squad.

[–]felixstorm 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A junior boys team beat the female US national team. They don't even deserve the money that they are getting right now.

[–]skitzofrenix01 15 points16 points17 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Male footballers = "being picked to play for my country was always a dream" .

To the point where (England Do anyway) donate there wages to charity.

Women = " I want this and that and more NOW"

US WNT = " Ok what deal you want"

Women = (gives terms etc etc)

USWNT= "Ok then"

Deal done and accepted .

Women = "We fucked up and will sue over the deal we asked for"

Judge "GTFO"

[–]maxtraxv3 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

funny thing is they where asked what model they wanted, they could had it exact same as the men, bu they choose to have more benefits, and there percentage of winning they get it higher then the mens, they just dont pull in as much.

[–]65Kodiaj 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think this is a great opportunity for Fifa to let the women's teams go. Tell them that since you're women and obviously so much better than men you can start your own league and become billionaires in a few short years!! ;)

[–]dirt_mcgirt4 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It turns out women suck at math. Who knew?

[+]BillHarris471 -44 points-43 points-42 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I don't know if this would be a ppd. They're not asking to be paid better than males. They're asking for equal pay. And the federation isn't saying, "oh we'll give you a free ride because you're females." They're saying giving equal pay would possibly bankrupt the federation.

[–]jawsgoose 34 points35 points36 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They're demanding equal pay from the US, not FIFA. The judge ruled in 2019 they get paid according to the contract to which they agreed, even spurning the pay-2-play structure the men have in favor of guaranteed money.

The US is not responsible for FIFA's pay scale. Men's soccer is infinitely more internationally lucrative than women's soccer. Once women's international soccer sells as much as men's, then they can earn equal pay.

Rhonda Rousey said it best: "I get paid according to how much revenue I bring in." - (paraphrased)

[–]Iamlegend_future 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

no. They were offered the exact same contract the men got but rejected it for the one they have. Now that they see they would have made more with the men's contract during the small time frame they want to remove the contract they agreed to and get the men's contract retroactively.

[–]joehonestjoe 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I thought it was even more sneaky, as in keep their benefits of the old contract but also get the same pay levels as the men? So they'd be paying more than just those who played, and also paying extra benefits.

[–]Iamlegend_future 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah. I forgot they wanted to keep the base 100k pay and the childcare.

[–]Faageddabowdit 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, when this all blew up the league offered to convert them to the men’s contract terms (the original one they turned down in order to get stable pay and more benefits; less emphasis on winning and playing time), they turned it down (again) and requested a hybrid of the two contracts: Keep their existing salaries and benefits as defined by the existing contract BUT add the lucrative percentage takes from victories. Especially the best part of the β€œmen’s” contract with the best parts of their existing contract. The want to have it both ways, no risk and high reward!

[–]n8ivco1 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The U15 Dallas FC should be paid better than the Women's National team. Once these media whores and half ass SJWs stop losing to pubescent boys then they can renegotiate their contract. They set the terms of their choosing and then got greedy.

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