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Feminist campaigner charged with 'hate crime' after sending 'offensive' tweets.

HowardJDuck

June 8, 2021
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https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/19349054.feminist-campaigner-charged-hate-crime/
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Title Feminist campaigner charged with 'hate crime' after sending 'offensive' tweets.
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HowardJDuck

Upvotes 99
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Date June 8, 2021 6:46 PM UTC
(5 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/PussyPassDenied
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Comments

[–]igortsen_sven 88 points89 points90 points 5 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link

Why is this posted here? She makes a good point that trans women are not women. That's not a hate crime, it's a fact.

[–]TypicalNPC 24 points25 points26 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

While she's undeniably correct, I believe it was posted here because she didn't receive any special treatment for having a vagina

[–]igortsen_sven 24 points25 points26 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Gotcha... pussy pass doesn't apply if you're bashing men who have turned their dicks into pussies.

Kinda twisted lol

[–]TypicalNPC 18 points19 points20 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Trying to understand the "logic" will only hurt your brain trust me.

Nothing makes sense anymore lmao

[–]igortsen_sven 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

dead on

[–]lvxvl 10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Transwoman's vagina > woman's vagina > man

So this is not a pussy pass

I think

Nothing adds up

[–]StuffyKnows2Much 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I think you mean birthing person’s vagina

[–]lvxvl 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

transbirther?

I'm not looking forword to calling single mom's, 'single birthers' I don't have health insurance. I can't afford to be unilaterally punched and beaten for an indefinite amount of time.

Wait, I think only transman can be called birthers, or is that sexist?

Is transwoman vagina > transman vagina? Did I just assume gender? Oh my god I better shut up before I go to prison.

[–]StuffyKnows2Much 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

ur under arrest for not having health insurance.

[–]ilikeunity 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I got interested and read a bit and learned that they don't have a powerful Supreme Court that can completely overturn unjust/unconstitutional laws like we (USA) have. Their Supreme Court is very limited and doesn't serve as a check against Executive and Legislative branches in the exact same way as ours.

I guess that also means they don't truly have a guaranteed freedom of speech like we do either. AFAICT, she didn't threaten anyone. Holy shit, going to jail for tweeting an opinion that someone doesn't like? Wow!

[–]stevenwe 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Happens in the US too, but when it’s pointed out, you usually scramble about to to somehow say it’s different and doesn’t count. This guy spent 2 months in jail for tweeting an opinion that someone didn’t like

https://www.wxyz.com/news/region/macomb-county/grieving-dad-jailed-for-repeatedly-criticizing-court-system-in-macomb-county

[–]ilikeunity 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Supposedly he was threatening a judge not just criticized her. Or perhaps she's just a coward and simply "felt threatened", which in that case is bullshit and would likely get overturned. I can't see the tweets to tell what the truth is. However, he violated the conditions of his bond set by another judge, by allegedly continuing to fuck with the original judge while waiting for this to go to trial, otherwise he'd still be free while awaiting trial. I'm not sure it's fair to say this is the same thing. The part about allegedly making threats is where this goes outside normal free speech protection.

Edit: We also have the option to pursue throwing out the district attorney who is the source of the criminal charges, who are typically serving in an elected position. That's another check against the system we have, whether people use it or not is a different story. Also, some of our judges are elected, which is another avenue. We have a lot of rights and mechanisms for justice that people don't use for various reasons, but they are there. And best of all the 2nd amendment, where if all else fails, kill the person or people responsible. That's in my opinion, the most powerful check against the system of all.

[–]stevenwe 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"The investigative report also says at no time did he threaten harm or violence"

All he did was criticise the system and a judge in particular. I always hear "but he breached his bond" but his bond related tot he exact same thing, criticising a judge, which according to americans he should never have been arrested for in the 1st place.

Ultimately the case was thrown out but it doesn't change 5he fact that the guy spent 2 months in prison, life ruined with no recourse.

It's always kind of a waste of time to post these out on reddit, like I said in another comment, 4heres always some reaching scramble to show how the American one is different, when in reality, these crappy, questionable things happen everywhere.

[–]ilikeunity 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

My original point was that I learned your legal system does not have a mechanism built it in to handle government abuse via bad laws and we do, with a Supreme Court that can invalidate any law in the land. I found that interesting with regard to free speech, where in your case I don't know how you can get rid of that hate speech law ever. Because in that case, it sounds like the only way is for the same legislators who made the bad law to decide it's bad and reverse it themselves, which seems unlikely.

[–]Kugji1833 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Based and redpilled

[–]Perrero 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

That's not for feminists to decide. They should sit down and stay quiet while the adults talk.

[+]Folderol_46 -6 points-5 points-4 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

You do know that not all feminists are estrogen fuelled nut cases who want to neuter all men, don't you?

[–]Mythandros 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well, considering that's what feminism teaches, yes they are.

Feminism is man hate. This means feminists are man haters. Feminism has been like this from its inception and only gets worse over time. There is not one single redeemable quality to feminism.

[–]Yare-yare---daze[🍰] 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes. Had they wished for equality they would be called equalists. Name itself is sexist.

[–]igortsen_sven 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

GTFO of course they all are. This is 2021 you dum dum.

[–]Real-Ray-Lewis 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You do realize the type of people in this sub Reddit right?

[–]AMP_Games01 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's not a hate crime

In scotland it is. Truthfully not every country has free speech like the US. I don't know what she said but I am curious.

[–]Iamlegend_future 11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I really wish these feminists would actually point to the rights us men have that women don't.

[–]TinyNiffler 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Did you even read the story?

[–]Iamlegend_future 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

my comment wasn't about the story. It was about that sign.

[–]nomorepantsforme 16 points17 points18 points 5 years ago (25 children) | Copy Link

This isn’t a good thing it’s an attack on free speech, then again they jail people there for making jokes

[–]stevenwe 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Who got jailed for making a joke?

[–]nomorepantsforme 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

The guy that made the nazi pug joke, count dankula, they’ve also removed certain episodes from older comedies as well

[–]stevenwe 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Your example of someone who went to jail for telling a joke is Mark Meehan, who didn’t get jail time?

[–]nomorepantsforme 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

He was arrested, went to jail, fined, and now cannot get a job to work. This person in this post likely was also arrested and went to jail. You act like being arrested and imprisoned for a short time doesn’t count for some reason? Even though it leads to major problems in someone’s life?

[–]stevenwe -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well she was arrested, brought to a police station, interviewed and then released after charge, she spent about 2 hours there, if this meets your definition of jailed,, then I guess she was jailed. Could I ask you something about the Meechan case? Have you actually read the ruling, and what the case was actually about? Hopefully you’re not basing your opinion on a few headlines about him teaching his dog a Nazi salute and you think that’s what got him convicted. That would be laughably naive and an example of being manipulated by the media. Often when examples of similar things happening in the US are posted then a load of excuses are thrown out about how that’s different, how this was perceived as a threat etc. Yet you don’t afford the same level of objectivity to anything posted outside the US. If you want to use Meechan as an example then do a bit of research, understand what his video actually showed, read the evidence given by Ephraim Borowski about how it resulted in threats and intimidation of Jewish people in the local community.

[–]nomorepantsforme 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I have read about how they went to a Jewish community showed the video to members of that community and asked if any found it offensive, when they did, charges started.

His joke relies on that you know what a nazi is, and it was the most disgusting and gross thing he could think of, and what’s double funny is he had a pug doing it, which are basically genetic nightmares, and compared to how nazis thought they were superior genetically, it still makes me giggle

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points-2 points 5 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

Free speech don't free you of consequences tho

[–]joehonestjoe 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Freedom of speech specifically exists to stop citizens being punished as a consequence of said speech by their government.

It doesn't really stop your company deciding it wants to get rid of you, or your grocery store deciding it doesn't want your custom. But the whole point is to stop a government from silencing its people.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Pretty much yes, at least the way it is in the US, but since its in other country it could work a different way I'm no expert so I don't really know

[–]joehonestjoe 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's the low bar though. You either have that protection or you don't and that means you have free speech or not.

The UK does not have freedom of speech. Freedom of expression is similar, but it has a long old list of exceptions

[–]StuffyKnows2Much 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

If free speech isn’t free of punishment then what is free about it?

[+][deleted] -6 points-5 points-4 points 5 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

the right to express any opinions without censorship or restraint, it doesn't absolves people of consequences tho

Edit the first amendment does protect you in case of most* hate speech, but since its not the US it's rules don't apply as well

[–]StuffyKnows2Much 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Can we agree that “consequences” means “punishments” when people are talking about free speech? ‘Consequences’ is used by the Left to add implied authority and absolution from guilt for anything they do in the pursuit of simply enacting natural consequences upon the consequenced

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Not really, consequences could mean good things too, but it seems it's not in this case.

I'm not an expert as well as I'm not an US citizen so I don't really care about the left or right...

And I kind of not believe all free speech should actually be protected, given the case it's used to attack, harm or cause any kind of damage as well.

Freedom of speech could be used to hurt people in so many ways, and in many ways it's prosecuted even in the US in this cases, like emotional abuse.

I really don't think everything is attached to politics and conflict, and I think that if everyone could stay civil and don't try to harm others then everyone should be allowed to say anything they want, but when someone starts harming others then it should be shutdown.

Idk if it's the answer you were looking for? Idk if I explained myself either haha, hope you have a good night/day

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Btw this is unrelated, you give me wierd vibes, like someone I know, idk why haha, you feel like a friend, and even if our views aren't on the same path I feel like you make really good points and observations, hope this year has treated you well and I would love to know a little more about your point of view in these cases! Have a nice day

[–]StuffyKnows2Much 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you. Hope you have a nice day as well

[–]nomorepantsforme 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Free speech means the government cannot punish you for what you say, the government is punishing her for what she said, when you say free of consequence, I’m guessing you mean the reaction of others and not the reaction of the government

[–]stevenwe 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Plenty of people in the US get arrested for what they say.

[–]nomorepantsforme 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Yelling fire in a theatre is not covered in free speech

[–]stevenwe 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Who said anything about yelling fire? This guy spent 2 months in jail for posting things online that’s judge didn’t like, no threats.

https://www.wxyz.com/news/region/macomb-county/grieving-dad-jailed-for-repeatedly-criticizing-court-system-in-macomb-county

Arrested for putting up posters saying she didn’t like black people and they should “go back to where they came from”

https://www.chron.com/national/article/San-Leandro-woman-arrested-for-posting-xenophobic-15295434.php

Arrested for offending a statue of Jesus, no damage done, just being offensive

https://www.pulse.ng/communities/religion/disgusting-14-year-old-boy-arrested-for-using-statue-of-jesus-christ-in-sex-act/64jx1wz

A child charged for offering another pupil as a “slave for sale” on Craigslist

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/11/21/illinois-teens-cragislist-post-slave-sale-may-hate-crime/4258257002/

Arrested for swearing in front of her kids

https://www.dailysignal.com/2014/08/20/mom-arrested-cursing-grocery-store/

[–]nomorepantsforme 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Wow, okay, I am wrong, only read the first one and that’s fucked, judges have way to much fucking power and that judge should be charged in relation to the child’s death

[–]stevenwe 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Ultimately the case was thrown out, but unfortunately that doesn’t change the fact that the guy spent 2 months in jail.

[–]nomorepantsforme 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And had to spend money to bail out and they claimed he violated that which means he’s not getting it back

[–]lonely-day 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They don't have freedom of speech

[–]AgitatedSalamander58 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Clickbait

[–]Mullentheworm 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why is this here this isn't a good thing very anti free speech

[–]antiherofederation 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not a pass denied, if you support people getting arrested for tweets you’re genuinely retarded.

[–]proknoi 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She had no problem restricting the freedom of speech for others. But when her's are restricted, suddenly it's not ok.

[–]Peepeepepper 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Woman arrested for standing up for women’s rights.

[–]That_Day9691 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nope this aint it

[–]lvxvl 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is a https://www.reddit.com/r/LeopardsAteMyFace/ moment

Subreddit's description:

'I never thought leopards would eat MY face,' sobs woman who voted for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party. Revel in the schadenfreude anytime someone has a sad because they're suffering consequences from something they voted for or supported or wanted to impose on other people.

.................

SJW are doomed to turn on each other. Somehow they've managed to destroy the world far more than each other so far.

This is SJW vs SJW, and the bad side won. Compelled speech, forced to believe someone elses opionion and not your own. Non-violent 'crimes' are deal with using violence and/or prison time, and a destroyed life. God knows what the world will look like in 10 years. WIth any reason, this non-sense will pass as a trend and be acknowleged as the first mass hysteria that used the internet as a conduit.

god save us all

[–]CartNip 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What?!? Tweeting should NEVER be considered a crime

[–]HarkTheBark 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

FTFU woman tweets that transwomen are men and the thought police arrest her.

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