Are men's rights and straight women rights (not fem nazi rights) actually mutually dependent?

duhhhh · 2020-07-29T00:34:22+00:00

I agree. Anti-sexist pro-equality people should be on the same side. The problem is feminism claims to be that and clearly is not.

GaRGa77 · 2020-07-29T01:03:42+00:00

Well today noone is supposed to be straight and if you are you are demonized

IGiveMyDogPeopleFood · 2020-07-30T02:34:21+00:00

They absolutely are. Healthy happy men make for a better society for everyone else.

Anakin-StarKiller · 2020-08-11T23:20:25+00:00

I agree with you but it helps you both seem to be good people

Dunkolunko · 2020-07-29T00:52:55+00:00

Not at all. The only difficult area I see is pregnancy/abortion/paternity where the role of the sexes is so drastically different it's hard to create a prdcise equivalency.

Cummintobight · 2020-07-29T19:05:25+00:00

Women have more rights and opportunities than men currently so I think taking a few decades to focus on furthering Men's rights and putting a pause on giving women more and more would be the best thing.

AAtvasshole · 2020-07-28T23:45:28+00:00

This post would be far more appropriate in a anti sjw/(rad)fem sub, and in that regard I would find it advisable for men and straight women as you say to stick together.

MyFatThumb · 2020-07-29T00:55:21+00:00

You're another chameleon who has realised that the fight for women rights is unobtainable. The responsibility that come with rights is very high, many women realize it not worth it and didn't investigate the concept of equality. The pendulum falling back and the momentum of kickback against feminism is going mainstream.

iainmf · 2020-07-29T02:25:25+00:00

Everybody has human rights. The only reason we talk about men's rights or women's rights is that the human rights issues for those groups are different from the issue of other groups. That is, when we say 'men's rights' it is shorthand for saying 'the human rights issues that uniquely or predominantly affect men'.

I think the issue you are talking about stems from people abandoning the idea that everybody has the same rights, and trying to set up a new aristocracy who have more rights than other people.

Input_output_error · 2020-07-29T05:19:05+00:00

The dictatorial feminist cool-aid is something that is very hard to swallow, specially if you're not a part of the demographic that they are trying to push for. The narrative that they always try to spin is "if you're not with us you're against us", and it really isn't helping their cause one bit.

I'll stand with anyone against feminism, but i do have to say that this isn't an men's rights issue. This post would have had better traction in Egalitarianism sub, they too call out the authoritarian bullshit that is feminism but are more focused on the "us" part. Men's rights sub is about men's rights and how they are being ignored.

That being said, next time people in your sci fi language group are bashing on you for being a cis female just tell them that feminist theory isn't really the sci fi language that you're interested in.

DubsPackage · 2020-07-29T14:33:42+00:00

What you described are called "Liberals" or "Progressives."

They pretend to be pro-woman only as long as you're on board with a marxist globohomo agenda.

"Women's health care" is code word for "abortion."

Feminism = Population control

A kind of gentrification to reduce the human population by discouraging sex, only "elites" are supposed to have sex, the rest of us have to be lesbians and incels, and/or freeze our eggs and work in their corporations.

That's what the entire left spectrum is all about these days, cultural marxism.

In their ideology all men are rapists unless they can afford legal representation to prove they are not, that's another means of gentrifying sex, gentrifying family, gentrifying life.

GENTRIFICATION

Same with veganism, global warming, and all of their pet projects, in their ideology flying in vegetables from the other side of the planet is more "earth friendly" than eating a cow from 20 miles away.

They want to make everything so expensive that none of us can afford to survive with their "green taxes."

What they actually want is control, left-wing fascism. Gentrification. Depopulation.

That's what their whole ideology is about.

Sonic_The_Hamster · 2020-07-28T23:38:59+00:00

No, not at all. Men's rights are totally different to any woman's rights. They are not dependant, in fact that are diametrically opposed. This is why they are women that exclusively fight for men's rights, honeybadgers, and ignore women's rights. There's very few fights that need to be won by women in modern society.

Part of men's rights is protecting them from all these straight women that take them to the cleaners in divorces, have then arrested for false DV or Rape allegations, stop them from seeing their children, or just generally ensure men's voices are not heard.

We don't need women's rights here, there's too many spaces where womens voices are heard and not that many where you can hear men's. So no, we are not dependant on you and this isn't welcome here. Trad Cons are just as dangerous as feminists in many ways except a lot of men will never see them coming.

This isn't all women, but the very fact that you felt that this was a question you could ask here means that you're looking for allies more than you are for understanding men who feel that they have no voice.

Title	Are men's rights and straight women rights (not fem nazi rights) actually mutually dependent?
Author	korea0rbust
Upvotes	23
Comments	63
Date	July 28, 2020 11:21 PM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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