NYU researchers report that men with very low high-school GPAs in math and science and very low SAT math scores were choosing math-intensive physics, engineering, and computer science majors as often as women with much higher math and science achievement. Why?

bufedad · 2020-06-23T19:51:16+00:00

Let's see...one gender is expected to provide for their family, and is judged as a suitable mate (at least partially) on how much money they make.

One gender is expected to be provided for by the other gender, and judge their potential mates by their ability to provide...

Can you think of any reason the gender expected to be good providers goes into higher paying professions, even if they aren't as good at the underlying fields?

No... obviously, it's bias against women.... /s

TheDongerNeedsFood · 2020-06-23T20:34:50+00:00

The researcher is right, these men need to be put in their place. They need to be discouraged from pursuing these kinds of fields, and redirected to where they belong: flipping burgers and emptying people's trash cans. How dare these men try to challenge themselves and pursue difficult, yet high-paying fields.

xNOM · 2020-06-23T21:59:17+00:00

In a new study in Science, New York University researchers report that men with very low high-school GPAs in math and science and very low SAT math scores were choosing these math-intensive majors just as often as women with much higher math and science achievement.

These are the same woke retards who look at standardized math tests taken by 12-year-olds and proclaim that there is no gender math gap. Even though a huge one opens up at the age of 15, as seen in the PISA tests. Then they start making up shit like "society discourages girls from math" to explain it.

Boys get BETTER at math compared to girls the older they get, and the harder the math gets. There is very little solid data past the age of 15. Brain mass peaks for women in the mid teens. For men this happens in the mid 20s.

Same methodology here. They assess students' "achievement" starting in 9th grade. The main metric they use is high school grades (ROFL I couldn't think of a less objective way to measure math ability). They belatedly throw in some SAT scores later in the post analysis. Students take the SAT at age 17. College students declare a major sophomore year.

As a physicist, I can tell you that high school physics is a joke. Engineering does not exist. What happened, is that it got harder. Female college freshman with overinflated egos got weeded out by freshman year physics and math courses more than the men did. They couldn't take the next step. It's not the same math and physics as in 9th grade, you woke "researchers!"

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/368/6497/1317

DOI: 10.1126/science.aba7377

Avejoecley · 2020-06-23T19:16:48+00:00

Maybe because they would not be socially accepted into other positions with soft skills like nursing and counseling like females are. Men have to flock together but females are accepted into male dominated areas of study and work. Not to mention high school teaching tends to favor females much more than college because more school teachers are female. Again men are not accepted into the school teaching profession thus culminating the problem.

RunawayGrain · 2020-06-24T16:10:26+00:00

http://cee.lse.ac.uk/ceedps/ceedp133.pdf

Students are handed a sum of £4 which they can either keep or allocate part of the sum to bet on their own performance at a test where grading is partly discretionary.

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Male students tend to bet less when assessed by a female teacher than by an external examiner or by a male teacher. This is consistent with female teachers' grading practices; female teachers give lower grades to male students. Female students bet more when assessed by a male teacher than when assessed by an external examiner or a female teacher. Female students' behavior is not consistent with male teachers' grading practices, since male teachers tend to reward male students more than female students.

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A female teacher tends to lower the effort and investment of male students.

It's almost like the male students have figured out that putting in the effort isn't worth it...

Svenskbtch · 2020-06-25T11:22:56+00:00

It would seem to me that math, along perhaps with law, are fields where you would have to work particularly hard to overcome deficiencies in aptitude. My ability is more in verbal and logical reasoning, and I remember clearly how hard I struggled to get an A in calculus, whereas my more gifted classmates often found it downright boring (I got back at them in Spanish class...).

From that perspective, this is indeed a striking finding. Grade discrimination and differences in conscientiousness might explain part of the GPA disparity, but I would have thought that SAT math scores would be a relatively accurate reflection of ability.

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