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Police "need to offer female offenders support not prison"

Moronic-Simpleton

June 4, 2020
71 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/jul/24/police-need-to-offer-female-offenders-support-not-prison
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Title Police "need to offer female offenders support not prison"
Author

Moronic-Simpleton

Upvotes 71
Comments 18
Date June 4, 2020 7:41 PM UTC
(6 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/gwokin/police_need_to_offer_female_offenders_support_not/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/police-need-to-offer-female-offenders-support-not.850775
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Comments

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points28 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://archive.fo/xwfuF

No; no, I think prison will be fully appropriate for them.

In fact, if we really believe in "affirmative action," there should be longer sentences for women than for men at least until MRAs in UK are satisfied that judges' and juries' collective "consciousness has been raised." Of course, I also think actually doing that would be perfectly stupid.

 

(There's a syllogism in here somewhere--I just.....just can't quite......)

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

If the point of this article is that non violent first time offenders shouldn’t be put in prison. I agree but not just for women. Non violent male first time offenders should have same opportunity

[–]ToyGunTerrorist 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I disagree. While I am all for consideration of circumstances in sentencing, I don't think that being a first time offender should be a factor. We are socialised from birth to know the law and not to commit criminal acts, and on that basis you shouldn't get a pass just because it's a first offence.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fair enough, I just think there are other ways to deal with the non violent crimes that are mentioned in this article like diversion programs, community service, etc. I’d rather have that then mass incarceration.

[–]im_just_dreamy 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Tf

[–]marchingrunjump 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think it’s sexists. If they dug into the numbers, there would probably be more men where drug addiction poverty and social de-route has led to crime. Especially since 90–95% people incarcerated are men.

The ideas suggested in the article do work but it’s totally unnecessary to gender it.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Even if most female offenders commit crimes due to poverty and mental health that's no excuse and what about the ones who don't suffer from poverty and mental health just let them walk free plus people who have no reason to commit a crime will do it because they need money or food or it's their only way of living and murders and rapist most of the time suffer from mental health male or female I think that people suffering from mental health should get help but they should also pay for their crimes

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m going to stop paying my taxes. Show me support, not prison

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What the hell

[–]Lion_amongst_gods 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Who died and made you king of "what the police need to do"?

[–]Moronic-Simpleton[S] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Are you talking to me? I’m just posting the article I found, I don’t agree with it.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, no, man--he was talking to the author of the article.

[–]Lion_amongst_gods 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No. Just a retort to that statement. It's a trend on reddit, I'm told.

[–]Moronic-Simpleton[S] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I just came across this article and felt like I should share it here to see what y’all had to say. Yes, it’s stupid and wrong, but what arguments could we use against this?

[–]yogibearandthekid 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ahhhhh the new normal..... lets save money and just build prisons for men!!!! PC culture has destroyed society.

[–]Rockbottom503 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It all comes back to the belief that a woman can do no wrong; if she's involved in criminal behaviour then we need to find a reason for them to be the victim.

[–]Oumashu345 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're not just wrong, you are stupid.

[–]lets-fucking-talk -4 points-3 points-2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Let’s see the replies to this comment

Let’s make women rot and help men

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