A bunch of people from my department at work went for drinks on Friday after work. Everyone was having a good time and there were about 20 of us there (from about 30 people in our department). I go to the bathroom, and as I am about to exit the hall to the bathroom I hear my co-worker say my name from around the corner of the wall. Perhaps I shouldn't have eavesdropped, but curiosity/suspicion got the best of me and I did.
I overheard a conversation of three guys in my department making a "hot list" (they actually referred to it as that), which involved ranking every woman in the department from first to last. I was upset and disturbed. I was quite friendly with 2/3 of the guys, actually. Yesterday morning I tell HR and they state that they have a zero-tolerance policy for actions like this. All three men were fired first thing this morning, and now I feel terrible.
I hated the way they were talking about women, but I didn't think they should be fired. With that said, we work for a large company that I know takes complaints like this seriously, and would not really miss these 3 guys, so deep down I suppose I knew it was a possibility when I complained. Nobody knows that I am the person who reported them, and I've overheard people say that the person is a "snitch". I'm wondering if I should have just confronted them at the bar and told them how it made me feel instead, but at the time I didn't feel comfortable doing that. I especially feel bad because I had a fairly good relationship with two of the guys.
AITA?
INFO 1: It was not a formal work event, but our supervisor organized everyone going out for drinks
INFO 2: A lot of people are insisting that I am upset because I was low on the list. I tried to avoid making this the focus, but with all the comments I feel like I have to address it. I was high on the list, and was not offended about my placement; I was offended about the fact that they were making a list in the first place. I hate that I even have to write this
ETA: wow this is just about the most toxic thing that has ever happened to me. I came here for judgment on whether I am an asshole in this situation, and I have gotten numerous personal messages calling me ugly, a bitch, fat, a nazi, psycho, etc. I really think something needs to be done about this sub, although admittedly I'm not sure what, because I can't believe this is the response for somebody using this sub for its intended purpose
update: I will be speaking to HR about the messages I received
[–]SirKolbath 24 points25 points26 points (5 children) | Copy Link
This is why I don’t socialize with women at work and rarely even with male coworkers.
Every day there is a new lesson about how women are not to be trusted. Men need to quit falling for this.
[+]Stevegracy1 points [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
I saw this show the other day on Netflix called workin moms. At first I thought it might be a decent show because there were boobs, but then comes this bizarre scene in the second episode where the lady is in a room at work pumping her breast milk and she just starts jacking off right there at work. And an intern accidentally walks in the unlocked room and he's instantly traumatized and leaves. BUT, then they cut to her sitting in the boss's office, turns out they apologized TO HER for the intrusion AND FIRED THE INTERN. And the bitch didn't even care that she got some kid fired. She was just glad she was off the hook. I was fucking blown away.... This is the kind of shit that is happening now... It's insanity...
[–]SirKolbath 4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
But but but #MentorHer!
How about #No?
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
it's a very realistic show. I watch it when I'm high and I ask myself "Do I miss chasing this?" Shows women in a raw form not often projected in media. It's sad, the last time I was dating I was also high on the weed. also has a lot of after school special moments...fucking canada.
[–]Martial-FC 2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
I’m right there with you, conversations with women at my job consist entirely of “hi how are you/I’m good how are you, that’s great, I’ll see you around.”
[–]SirKolbath 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Conversations with women where I work are restricted entirely to work matters. When they try to ask questions like, “How are you?” I typically reply, “Let’s keep this professional.” Then I ignore them.
[–][deleted] 25 points26 points27 points (2 children) | Copy Link
the comments scare me more then the post itself
[–]Stevegracy 5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
If I was still in the work force instead of working for myself I probably would have been executed in the public square already. This is insane.
[–]ShepardHeartsCreed 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly what got me. Honestly skipped a heartbeat. Is this trolling?!?
[–]5th_Law_of_Robotics 18 points19 points20 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Damseling so hard.
[–]FormedBoredom 4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
That's always the fallback when met with resistance, IRL it'd be crying.
[–]LegalQqqthrowaway 9 points10 points11 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Ou, aren't you a little damsel in distress lmfao. OP who wrote that AITA post is actually a hypocritical idiot
[+]Stevegracy1 points [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link
This fucking world has gone insane. Reading all those comments, it's madness. Where the fuck are all these people living that this is common thinking? I never want to go there, ever!
[–]5th_Law_of_Robotics 14 points15 points16 points (1 child) | Copy Link
It's AITA. They determine right and wrong based on gender. I was banned today for saying a guy wasn't an asshole for telling his mom he didn't want to go ahead and marry a woman with a bunch of kids in order to provide her with grandkids (he doesn't want to get married or have kids and has been very clear on this, he's in his forties).
[–]Martial-FC 9 points10 points11 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I caught a ban as well. A post a few months ago about a woman belittling and screaming at her husband to “shut the fuck up,” I said if this was a man doing this no matter the reason the sub would be crucifying him.
[–]Ody_ssey 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
/r/feminism
[–]trumpean 7 points8 points9 points (4 children) | Copy Link
Would love to see a post with the sexes switched: "I was at an after-work social event at a bar, and I overheard girls I work with ranking the men in the office, based on who they thought was the hottest. I've done the same thing before with women in the office, but hearing this made me feel bad, so I reported it to HR and they all lost their jobs. AITA?"
[–]FormedBoredom 5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
"Lol ok incel, jealous they find men in the office attractive? get a grip now all those poor wahmen have no job!"
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Wait, where do they tell that in the post/comments? I didn’t find that.
[–]trumpean 1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
If you sort the comments by Controversial, you'll see that OP had originally mentioned that she had also engaged in discussion of the attractiveness of her male colleagues: she deleted it once people started blasting her for her hypocrisy.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Omg just 90% are just wrong.
[–]svayam--bhagavan 4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Wimmin empowerment has gone so far into the cuckoo land that it is hurting humanity.
[–]mgtowolf 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I hope word gets around and she becomes a social pariah, and even her cats abandon her. What kind of cunt tattles to mommy and daddy, I mean HR, about people shooting the shit in a bar? Another reason to be glad to be in construction and not some suit job I guess.
[–]Ody_ssey 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Feminists comments what they are best at. Comments from non-feminist people are out of page.
[–]DubsPackage 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't shit where you eat.
Women at work aren't your friends, you shouldn't be drinking with them or discussing "hot lists."
But the fact that this actually happened OUTSIDE of work, the company deserves a big fat lawsuit for trying to police its employees on their OWN fucking time, what's next, they fire you for looking at sexy pictures in your own house?
And lol at the comments, these white knights all deserve to get kicked in the balls repeatedly.
As the #metoo bullshit gets more and more pervasive, alot of these cucks will be getting pink slips too, all it takes is one hand on the shoulder, or just being a short or ugly male in the office before you "create a hostile work environment."
And western men are a bunch of MORONS for letting women have so social/legal power, it's gonna come back to bite all of them on the ass, mark my words.
Now even powerful blue-pilled white knights like Kavanaugh are getting hoisted from their own petard.
And Mr "I pay women more" Trump is eating lawsuit after lawsuit from every cunt he ever shook hands with.
"He put his hand on my knee 15 years ago, and I am still traumatized today and need therapy and have PTSD."
You morons created this.
You white knight blue pill fucks created this.
Just HAD to put these cunts into our workplace didn't you and now we all have to suffer their clown world psychodrama where they show up with their big tits on display and just DARE you to look down.
I have no sympathy for normies, they deserve everything they get, they deserve the dystopia they've created for themselves.
[–]1LegendaryWombat 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Fired for a private conversation outside of work that didn't involve anything illegal or even discriminatory, that should be illegal.
No, her actions definitely them fired. Determining on a scale how physically attractive people are is something humans, male, female, in-between, whatever, do. It has nothing to do with treating them like objects and escalte? escalate to what, asking the hotter ones out OOOoooooOOh...
God damn these are the people that make companies introduce a fucking no touching policy because people are apparently so fragile you cannot do anything that somebody else dislikes.
[–]FormedBoredom 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
The vast majority of that sub is batshit insane feminazi's that truly believe nothing a woman does can be wrong.
[–]Empress_Rach 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I'd love to see her get me fired. I make hot list all the time. Who the fuck cares. I think a girl is hot and while drunk I'd admit she's hot. But she wouldn't report ME. Cuz I'm a fucking woman. Fucking hypocrites.
[–]iloveyoudeft 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I love how she deleted the part about her doing the exact same thing. God that fucking post triggers me.
[–]fgrsentinel 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
A lot of the YTA comments don't just call her out on her shit, but call her out on deliberately editing her post to remove any statements that get her YTA votes.
For those who didn't check through the comments, the TL;DR is her post initially said she does the exact same thing that these guys did. Not just talk about which coworkers are attractive, but actually ranking them. When people started calling her out on this, she removed that part from the post, which, when people realized she was constantly editing the post to remove anything that painted her in a negative light, caused a ton of people to vote YTA just because she was blatantly trying to manipulate the general opinion in her favor.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
don't get it why people wrote they're assholes. It was an privat (even they was on an event, they stand in an corner btw..) conversations. It's not like as girls wouldn't talk to each other in an similar way like "perso is really hot but not so hot as person y and person z is totally ugly" bad example but still. How it can be sexistic go say i prefere person b over person t but she's still hotter than person p. That's simply oversensitiv anti free speech stuff. But i bet if the man would catch three girls by making an lust the situation would be differend like how strong they are that they know exactly what they want. double standarts -_