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In light of the recent Quillette article on men's "natural" tendency towards violence, here's a Tale of Two Dogs...

ThePigmanAgain

September 4, 2019
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http://thepigmancometh.com/2015/02/01/a-tale-of-two-dogs/
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Title In light of the recent Quillette article on men's "natural" tendency towards violence, here's a Tale of Two Dogs...
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ThePigmanAgain

Upvotes 13
Comments 4
Date September 4, 2019 12:19 AM UTC
(6 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/czda1z/in_light_of_the_recent_quillette_article_on_mens/
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[–]Demonspawn 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

All humans are violent by nature.

Men are trained to restrain their violence, usually by their fathers, unless it's something important. Women are no longer trained to be restrained and we are watching the results of that throughout society.

[–]MalusMalorum 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Whenever something is present in a wide variety of different and unrelated cultures, I would feel a bit critical about calling it nurture. It can be, to a degree, but if it is, then there is usually a certain inborn element in creating the environment that produces it.

First of all though, there is the fact a majority of people are not violent to start with, male or female. Yes, most people likely will have at least been violent as a child once or twice, usually within their own gender peer group, but the majority of people in most nations seem to be non violent, unless they need to be.

And then there is the very funny thing that when you look at violence that is at least perceived to be "low risk", women actually are catching up in a mere heartbeat. beating children? Beating a family member in anger? All behavior with pretty high female perpetration.

I think where social factors actually start making a huge difference is this: the ease of being in a position where you feel secure in using violence without repercussion.

You usually get that when you are physically superior to your victim or have a weapon or act in a gang like group.

It might really be interesting to see violent crime perpetration normalized for such things as height, muscle mass and IQ and see if that might not quite change the picture as well.

[–]ThePigmanAgain[S] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Whenever something is present in a wide variety of different and unrelated cultures, I would feel a bit critical about calling it nurture.

No. See, the nurture can be a reaction to nature. If all cultures put more energy into taming pit bulls than into taming Labradors it may simply be that pit bulls are by nature more troublesome. Better example -- no culture lets you shit where you eat, yet by nature children will shit anywhere they want. The rule of "don't shit where you eat" is present in a wide variety of different and unrelated cultures, yet it is clearly a case of nurture.

[–]ThePigmanAgain[S] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Incidentally, remember the sub LeftWingMaleAdvocates? I posted this over there and it got removed for "demonizing women." I suspect that sub is on its way to becoming another MensLib. Somehow, everything left wing manages to get taken over by SJWs.

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