Leading male feminist claims that "MRAs / Men’s rights advocates are part of a backlash against efforts to stop sexual violence"

duhhhh · 2019-08-13T00:34:23+00:00

"Rape is an increasing focus of MRAs." You mean counting "made to penetrate" and advocating for due process? How horrible (if you aren't interested in equality)!

ThePigmanAgain · 2019-08-12T23:40:38+00:00

I didn't blank out his name as he is pretty much a public figure, albeit a minor one.

mgtowolf · 2019-08-13T00:06:31+00:00

A feminist chump, complaining that MRA make false claims and cherrypick. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahaha wholy shit. What a joke.

1LegendaryWombat · 2019-08-13T02:34:33+00:00

I'll use feminism tactics and say "Source please."

As mens rights are not backlash against trying to stop sexual violence, i don't think you can find a single MRA that says 'i love all sexual violence!' or 'Sexual violence should be free!'. No, MRA's want to stop dv, rape, etc just as much, if not more.

As an example, MRA's want female rapists to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law and be acknowledged as perpetrators of rape, feminists don't want women to be even be charged with rape.

Feminists also don't like the acknowledge what happens in prisons, which is what could be the closest to what a 'rape culture' really is.

MRA's want equal time for equal crimes and fairness in sentencing, feminists do not. Like specifically because women are women, they should be given leniency.

The media supports this. When Johnny Depp was accused, he was vilified ridiculously on almost no evidence. He had to turn around with over a hundred pieces of evidence, but in comparison, there were crickets. While Amber Heard got to be spokesperson in the UN and a cushy job, he had to fight just to prove himself not guilty, and some people still don't believe him.

MRA's want false accusations actually punishable, as just the hint of it ruins the reputation of people accused. Feminists don't because 'it only happens 2% of the time'(which is proven to be both wrong and they like to equate that the other 98% are proven true, which it isn't).

Men have problems, women have problems. Just one side does not get listened to about their issues.

darkbluexanadu · 2019-08-13T01:08:30+00:00

In a country where feminists biggest concern is how men sit or air conditioning, its really hard to take anything people like this say.

jeff_the_nurse · 2019-08-13T02:22:43+00:00

I mean, rape IS an increasing focus for us, just not in the way this moron thinks.

2019-08-13T01:54:02+00:00

It would be fitting if he gets MeToo'd.

iainmf · 2019-08-13T02:21:52+00:00

MRAs are part of a backlash to stop sexual violence at all costs and at the expense of fundamental human rights.

A fair and just approach in the justice system for rape is an increasing focus of MRAs.

Benifenn · 2019-08-13T09:36:25+00:00

Well he's a 'sociologist', so his opinion doesn't really strike a cord

2019-08-13T12:50:34+00:00

Feminist scholar cites fellow feminist scholars (who happen to be from my Alma Mater, by the way) about the supposed intellectual dishonesty of MRAs. I encourage you to read their paper "Sexual Violence in the Manosphere" because it's an exercise in precisely what they are railing against: false claims, cherry picking, etc.

An egregious example is that they cite the CDC report in the US about sexual violence as one piece of evidence for their sexual assault rates, but completely leave off the 'made to penetrate' numbers from the same report. Ergo, when they come to the conclusion that MRA claims about sexual assault are wrong and cherry picking, it's because they cherry picked themselves to begin with and are comparing MRA claims against incorrect numbers ... and they know it.

iainmf · 2019-08-13T02:34:36+00:00

The study he is referencing

Sexual Violence in the ‘Manosphere’: Antifeminist Men’s Rights Discourses on Rape

Abstract

This paper explores the role that men’s rights activism (MRA) is playing in a contemporary backlash to feminist anti-rape activism. We engage in a discourse analysis of popular MRA websites to reveal a set of interrelated claims, including: that sexual violence, like domestic violence, is a gender-neutral problem; that feminists are responsible for erasing men’s experiences of victimization; that false allegations are widespread; and that rape culture is a feminist-produced moral panic. We argue that sexual violence is emerging as a new focus of the men’s rights movement, competing with a longstanding emphasis on fathers’ rights. The subject of MRA activism has shifted and is becoming less familial and more sexual. MRAs appear to be using the issue of rape to mobilize young men and to exploit their anxieties about shifting consent standards and changing gender norms

auMatech · 2019-08-13T05:40:06+00:00

Trying to get ahead of the curve and slander/discredit a valid cause that's starting to have some success with an argument that opposes feminist narratives? Typical

Lethn · 2019-08-13T09:28:02+00:00

I wonder if this coward would publicly debate an MRA or someone who shared his views? As for MRAs themselves, I have never seen them portray men as victims of 'women' but victims of 'feminism' for sure and that's the truth. I'd really love to see him back up his claims, who wants to bet he's full of shit and the examples he gives are going to make him look ridiculous?

Aaod · 2019-08-13T06:16:36+00:00

You mean the sexual violence stuff that didn't pick up steam until the 2000s from what I remember when we have existed since way before that?

MyOtherTagsGood · 2019-08-13T05:00:29+00:00

I swear it doesn't matter what a person stands for, or what side of an issue they're on. Every self proclaimed expert demonizes their opponents by parroting back exactly what the other side says about them. The divide and conquer tactics those in control use against the common people are as effective as ever.

ZimbaZumba · 2019-08-15T15:16:29+00:00

His use of an academic citation shows how completely corrupt certain areas in academia have become. Flood is the poster child of academics who have traded in their professional integrity for personal gain.

Title	Leading male feminist claims that "MRAs / Men’s rights advocates are part of a backlash against efforts to stop sexual violence"
Author	ThePigmanAgain
Upvotes	94
Comments	19
Date	August 12, 2019 10:46 PM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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