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She Verbally Consented To Sex But The School Determined He Committed Sexual Assault Because He ‘Cajoled’ Her With Flattery

John238

July 26, 2019
40 upvotes
/r/MensRights
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Title She Verbally Consented To Sex But The School Determined He Committed Sexual Assault Because He ‘Cajoled’ Her With Flattery
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John238

Upvotes 40
Comments 19
Date July 26, 2019 10:58 PM UTC
(6 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/ci9ugb/she_verbally_consented_to_sex_but_the_school/
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Comments

[+]Tchulkaturin-18501 points 6 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

Flirting is sexual harassment now, and has been for a couple of decades. Verbal consent is not a legal defense in rape cases anymore.

[+]TheNightKing80001 points 6 years ago* [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

So, since verbal consent is not allowed, and video recording is not allowed, and consent forms aren't admissible, then technically every man is risking their lives by having sex with a woman. And they say it's riskier for a woman...

[+]Tchulkaturin-18501 points 6 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Now that consent can be revoked after the sex has already occurred, all sex is legally rape. If a woman claims to feel uncomfortable because of your presence, then you are guilty of sexual harassment.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Every time I think I finally have confronted the absolute limits of human stupidity Reddit finds some new shit like this to throw in my face.

Damn.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

🤡 Honk honk!!

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Um, so... women are too stupid to make decisions for themselves?

[–]Criket 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes

[–]rationalthought314 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

misogynist! Women are strong and independent! Consequences are a patriarchal concept!

[+]Tchulkaturin-18501 points 6 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

It's all just a sinister protection racket. Terrify the women with stories of rape and appoint the police and courts to protect them from the one thing in life they want more than anything else.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep.

[–]xNOM 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Not too stupid. Too childish.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Both?

[–]Lion_amongst_gods 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Cajoled her with flattery

So you're saying, he courted her and she consented, but you still find it wrong? The heck?

[–]Farseer_Uthiliesh 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Dating is now cajoling.

Fuck, stop the planet; I want off.

[–]NomeFintoPerInternet 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

And here comes my rant, brace yourselves.

I started to distance myself from this contemporary version of feminism also because of this bullshit. I don't understand how other women can claim this victorian approach to sexuality(where the woman is a poor idiot who can't understand what's happening and falls for tacky compliments) can be considered empowering at all. Girl, he might have been sweet-talking you but that doesn't mean he raped you. This is also how the game works isn't it? Even if it's just a hook-up, there's always some kind of flattery/flirting going on before isn't it? "oh, darling, your eyes are like stars, I will love you forever" on the first night it's quite obviously not a real love declaration now is it? Who the fuck doesn't understand that?But nooooo, hei, let's ruin someone's life because I couldn't resist his flattery, I'm too stupid for that!!! He told me I'm beautiful, how could I not sleep with him when he said something as powerful as "you're beautiful" with TWO, and I say TWO winking emojis???

Prior to the second hearing, John was provided with a copy of the university’s new definition of consent, which included the word “cajoling” as part of the definition of coercion.

I cannot really get my head around this shit. Soon we'll go back to asking the hand of a woman's to her father, 'cause obviously that's the only way to avoid poor little women being tricked into relationships by evil men and their supernaturally powerful compliments, and we'll call it empowerment. I'm appalled by this narrative and its consequences on both genders, but above all on people like this boy, personally.

[–]w1g2 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

They'll take the viewpoint that women are so trusting and good, they just can't conceive that a man would pay her false compliments to get her into, egads, his BED! And men are just so evil and conniving, they aren't smarter than women, just immoral.

They're taking a lot of Victorian viewpoints lately, like a man wanting to only have sex with a woman is an egregious thing. It really demonstrates how the Victorian conventions were not patriarchal concepts placed on unwilling women by men, because they clearly can be insisted upon by women themselves, as you noted, as a means of empowerment.

Power is simply about what it gets you and in that way it can be achieved through any means. If presenting yourself as a vulnerable person gets you protection and people to hurt others for you, then that is powerful indeed.

[–]FLoLow135 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The picture in the article shows a black guy. If this was a black guy, this sounds more like a lynching than sexual assault.

[–]rationalthought314 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Reading the story you'd think it an open and shut case of getting laid, end of story. But it doesn't matter that she gave him her number, texted in caps she loved him, stayed over at his room in his bed before, and she invited him to her room knowing her roommate was out, and after the deed said she wanted to do it again - fucking hell this is a parody article, isn't it? Imagine the guy thinking he had a girl who liked him and wanted to sleep with him and do so again then switcheroo! she's practically another person he doesn't recognize like some sci-fi horror film Body Snatchers style. With these kinds of stories, it's small wonder a lot of guys are wary as hell and the promise that most women wouldn't do this isn't that comforting as all it takes is one and you're fucked and not in a good way. And a number of women who say they would never do this, it's just a matter of time for some.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

this is sexual communism; no other way to say it. Just like it was "bring down the rich to make the poor feel better," this is "bring down men to make women feel better"

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