Socialist Mens rights people, is there a socialist community online that isn't totally co-opted by feminism?

Trunk-Monkey · 2019-06-25T01:35:52+00:00

I don't know… but socialism rests on the functional redistribution of resources from those that earn/produce more to those that earn/produce less via "social ownership", and the distribution of a "social dividend" to all members of the public. How can that possibly be compatible with Men's rights given that, men are generally net producers, and women generally net consumers?

2019-06-25T01:33:40+00:00

They kind of go hand in hand.

2019-06-25T06:25:19+00:00

/r/stupidpol as it goes after situations where class awareness has been replaced by IDpol?

SirKolbath · 2019-06-25T01:36:44+00:00

It's only in Venezuela. Go look for it there.

user_miki · 2019-06-25T14:28:25+00:00

feminism is a version of socialism,own it.What, now socialists what to dissociate themselves from feminists?

Ex0tictoxic · 2019-06-25T20:39:40+00:00

I'm going to be downvoted for this.

Those subreddits are generally full of the all the 'bells and whistles' socialists. The ones that believe in western imperialism and that mao did more good than bad and all the other horse poo.

I am economically Socialist, specifically more keen on Social Democracy, a branch of Socialism closer to the Centre. I do not believe Socialism goes hand in hand with Feminism as some people here are trying to suggest.

Socialism is a very broad term and some people are trying to define it in one sentence which is too simplistic and doesn't work. So I define what Socialism means to me and hopefully that explains why I think being anti Radical Feminist and Socialist is not incoherent. Socialism basically means to me that businesses have a huge social responsibility and right now unfortunately cannot be trusted to fulfil that responsibility. As such the state must push businesses to be more considerate to the worker, and must accept that not all of the fruits of the work the worker provides should go to the business. They should go to the public too, via a welfare state, in addition to profiting the shareholders.

This doesn't necessarily have much influence over my social political views. I am socially centrist. I am egalitarian, but simply feel that Feminism does not represent that anymore. That is why am I am typing here.

ABitterSatireHeWrote · 2019-06-25T05:39:08+00:00

If by "socialism", you mean "wealth redistribution" (and by "socialist" those for it), and/or the state or workers owning the means of production in and of itself, or any other superficial changes to capitalism, initiated by peaceful reform or otherwise, then no, not particularly, at least not any with any significance or size.

And that is perfectly appropriate to the role of the left in locking down, dividing, and immobilizing the working class, especially during capitalist crisis.

Title	Socialist Mens rights people, is there a socialist community online that isn't totally co-opted by feminism?
Author	FickleTrust
Upvotes	3
Comments	8
Date	June 25, 2019 12:49 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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