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Police: Woman choked nightclub bouncer unconscious, after she thought it was he who grabbed her ass, it was actually her friend playing a joke.

Daddie0

November 1, 2018
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https://www.pressrepublican.com/news/local_news/police-woman-choked-nightclub-bouncer-unconscious/article_d431db6f-4ae1-55a1-b502-7c1a55068ec7.html
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Title Police: Woman choked nightclub bouncer unconscious, after she thought it was he who grabbed her ass, it was actually her friend playing a joke.
Author

Daddie0

Upvotes 67
Comments 40
Date November 1, 2018 2:11 PM UTC
(7 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/9t9r05/police_woman_choked_nightclub_bouncer_unconscious/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/police-woman-choked-nightclub-bouncer-unconscious.890911
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Comments

[–]Ezekiel_98 24 points25 points26 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Also did anyone else notice he's reffered to as " Alleged " victim ?

[+]Daddie01 points 7 years ago* [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm betting she will turn into the actual victim before it's all said and done.

[–]Ezekiel_98 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hopefully they were just qouting someone who said that.

[–]jacksleepshere 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Imagine how difficult it must be to be that retarded.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Newspapers tend to do that before anyone is convicted for fear of libel laws.

[+]Daddie01 points 7 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Female friend grabs her ass!

Video of it:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1795012/Video-Surveillance-shows-Kierah-Lagrave-choking-bouncer-nightclub.html

[–]Jex117 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's so fucking disturbing :(

The guy knew what she was doing, knew it was a woman, but literally couldn't do anything to stop her. Just stood there while she choked him out... jesus fuck....

[–]Ezekiel_98 13 points14 points15 points 7 years ago (25 children) | Copy Link

How the fuck did that ugly cunt manage to choke-out a male bouncer ?

[+]Daddie01 points 7 years ago* [recovered] (13 children) | Copy Link

Because "there is NEVER EVER a reason to hit a woman." /s

And that is the reality, they guy probably realized it was a woman, rather then risk hurting her, he would rather let a her suffocate him.

[–]Ezekiel_98 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

He's a bouncer , ain't detaining people part of the training ?

[+]Daddie01 points 7 years ago [recovered] (10 children) | Copy Link

He had no idea it was coming.

"Lagrave walking up behind the bouncer and choking him until he falls to the floor unconscious,"

My guess is by the time he realize he was getting choked, and it was a woman, and trying to figure out what he could do without hurting her, he was out.

[–]omnicidial 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

When you notice the arm go around your neck you've got about 2 seconds to try to turn, drop your chin as hard as you can trying to dislodge the arm and reach behind your head to pull the top arm free.

Most people make the mistake of reaching for the front arm on their throat and trying to pull it off while they pass out.

[+]Daddie01 points 7 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

What I would recommend, turn your head towards the chin, then with the heel of your foot, stomp / smash down as hard as you can on their toes.

[–]omnicidial 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Getting that top arm off, dropping hips and spinning around to gain control of them somehow is my go-to.

[–]Jex117 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This, except I was taught to donkey-kick towards the kneecap.

[–]Lethn 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Yep, dropping your weight is a good idea, if you try and struggle against them your weight is going up and you'll be taken off balance giving your attacker the advantage. If you can't break free easily, use your elbows as weapons.

[–]omnicidial 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, keeping your hips below theirs keeps you from being picked up or thrown to the ground, last position I wanna end up in is on the ground with someone on my back.

[–]Jex117 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

No, don't drop your weight. Stand up straight, lift a foot up, and donkey-kick it backwards into your attackers kneecap. They'll recoil, which gives you leverage to break their grapple. Standard response to any grapple from the backside.

The key is timing. Don't hesitate, and don't give them time to throw your weight around.

[–]Lethn 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

lol ah, well this depends on what style you're doing in my opinion, you see in my style we drop our weight almost diagonally down and elbow the person holding us and strike them in the stomach. The elbow is done at the exact same time as the drop because you're using your weight as part of the technique if that makes sense.

[–]omnicidial 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Probably depends on if you're a wrestling base or not, additionally, I don't want to kick the legs out of someone that's got my back and neck already, because I don't want to go to the ground under any circumstances.

Going to the ground in a public situation is risky as all hell, a 3rd party can come in and stop the shit out of you once you're on the floor.

[–]Ezekiel_98 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn I sometimes forget not everyone's a ( relative ) giant , standing at 6'8 it'd take a good bit of struggle on her part to reach my throat from behind let alone try to strangle me

[–]Samantha_Cruz 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

training?

I'm not sure that This club is likely to have an extensive training program for their bouncer staff.

[+]RunsInJeans1 points 7 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Once when playing around I wrapped both my hands around a friends neck and started to squeeze. He looked at me like "Is that all you got?" 3 seconds later his lights went out and he dropped to the floor unconscious. If someone starts squeezing your neck you need to fight back quickly or else you are going to sleep.

[–]Lethn 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2p5yVEK0DM

It's very easily done, it doesn't matter how big you are or what training you do, your throat is soft tissue, there are also nerve points in the body that can kill or severely damage you if you get hit there hard enough. There are also pressure points in various places and of course joint locks which will put you in a lot of pain and put you in a funny position if you know how to use them correctly.

[–]omnicidial 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

If you get it locked in correctly it takes a couple seconds no matter how big the person is.

[–]Ezekiel_98 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

The second I felt her against me her ass is getting rammed against the nearest Wall

[–]omnicidial 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

If you're going to give me your back and let me lock in until you notice, I don't care how hard you think you can ram into that wall, you've got 3 seconds max, make it count.

Also, smart person getting a standing choke will jump on their back and hook the legs so they cant move or trip and fall.

[–]Ezekiel_98 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I'm 310 lbs , if I slam myself back on top of her I'd probably squish her

[–]omnicidial 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Maybe, but if they have that choke locked in you're gonna do it while unconscious.

[–]Ezekiel_98 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She won't be in much better condition if I land on her , Wich I'd try my hardest to do. If I drop she's going down to. We'll see who's in worse condition afterwards

[–]Ezekiel_98 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She won't be in much better condition if I land on her , Wich I'd try my hardest to do. If I drop she's going down to. We'll see who's in worse condition afterwards

[–]Pioustarcraft 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

if the bouncer (probably male) tries to defend himself, he will be sued for assault and because he is a man and she is a woman, it will also be "use of excessive force". Long story short, he will probably end up in jail for trying to defend himself for attempted murder. Welcome in 2018

[–]thrway_1000 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Archive -- https://archive.is/XFxvv

[–]MickDaster 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No ppd here. They let her go...

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Whats most disturbing is that the woman felt that it was acceptable to respond in this way. The only reason is because subconsciously (or maybe even consciously) men are not equal to women, men are lesser people, and are not worthy of respect as to be given the benefit of the doubt, or presumption of innocence. She just attacked, with no certainty that he did anything to her. She enjoyed harming a man.

These kinds of articles make me hate women.

[–]RossParka -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I see no evidence of sex discrimination here. She was arrested and charged with second-degree strangulation, which seems reasonable under the circumstances.

[+]BaconCatBug -12 points-11 points-10 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

If a bouncer can be choked out by someone weaker than them they aren't a very good bouncer. If a bouncer is too much of a white knight to defend themselves, they are putting the patrons at risk.

[+]Daddie01 points 7 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Let me ask, WTF could he do? If he would have done anything to her and would not have passed out, he would have been overrating.

"Dude, she only weighs a buck 20! Jesus, WTF do you think she was going to do to you?!"

"Dude, she only weights a buck 20! Jesus WTF kind of bouncer are you that you can't handle that!" "Holy shit that was funny, she choked you out!"

This guy was in a no win situation, and only had at most a few seconds to make a decision before it was lights out.

[–]BaconCatBug -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, he's in a no win situation, so do the branch that doesn't result in you being choked out, suffering brain damage and potentially having a crazy person attacking the patrons you were FUCKING HIRED to protect.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you get the right part of the neck you can make someone pass out in a few seconds. If you're surprised you might not be able to fight back in time even if the attacker is weaker.

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