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Boys crave masculinity, fatherless homes are detrimental to youth

lostapwbm

June 1, 2018
209 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/red-alert-politics/boys-crave-masculinity-fatherless-homes-are-detrimental-to-youth
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Title Boys crave masculinity, fatherless homes are detrimental to youth
Author

lostapwbm

Upvotes 209
Comments 23
Date June 1, 2018 4:51 PM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/8ntgsm/boys_crave_masculinity_fatherless_homes_are/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/boys-crave-masculinity-fatherless-homes-are.900278
https://theredarchive.com/post/900278
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Comments

[–]cantmakeitup09 18 points19 points20 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Symptom of a larger problem.

[–]thrway_1000 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Who would have thought?

Archive -- https://web.archive.org/web/20180601224545/https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/red-alert-politics/boys-crave-masculinity-fatherless-homes-are-detrimental-to-youth

[–]v574v 21 points22 points23 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Girls also benefit significantly from having their dads around - am I the only one who finds it odd that the title and one sentence specifically note boys yet the links discuss children? Why stress boys when the father/daughter relationship is often more at risk of when the father is out of the house?

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There's no evidence to back up the claim that "boys crave masculinity," ie., do better when raised by their fathers as opposed to their mothers in a single-parent household. What little evidence I could find on the topic shows they do about as well in either.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

7/10 people incarcerated were raised by a single mother. Literally taking rights away from women would cripple the crime rate.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Taking rights away from women would cripple the crime rate

The fuck?

[–]AlcatrazSeven 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well giving the guard of the children systematically to the dad (instead of systematically to the mother) would cripple the crime rate

[–]Clemicus 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Not necessarily. There needs to be a better balance within the family courts system - - as the default for blame is the father. Valuing the father's role in raising is paramount. Seems the narrative is fathers aren't needed and the tone seems to be emasculation is fine (and the consequences are completely misunderstood - - they could lead to breakups due to those misunderstandings).

There's also the role of the education system to consider and how much influence women have in the development of male personas (i.e bad boys).

Edit: the article is about the consequences of single parent families (i.e higher poverty levels and higher crime statistics)

[+]hirayama_ronin -15 points-14 points-13 points 8 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

The hidden moral of this story is that white men need to love black boys.

The more wealthy, more privileged white male needs to bring that wealth, experience, and privilege to bear upon the weakest in our society.

[–]notacrackheadofficer 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This ain't Pismo Beach.You must have taken a wrong turn at Albequerque.

[–]hirayama_ronin -3 points-2 points-1 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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[–]hirayama_ronin -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

  1. Fatherlessness hits the black community more.

  2. White men have wealth and privileges generations of over-incarcerated, much poorer black men do not.

Sorry if my antiracism isn't your cup of team.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

I am black and have a supportive father. Not sure what antiracism is, but it sounds a lot like drawing racist conclusions from data you don't understand

[–]hirayama_ronin 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

The data supports the view that black men in America are incarcerated at an incredibly high rate, destabilizing family relationships and reinforcing a cycle of poverty.

I think you're just willfully misinterpreting what I'm saying.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

And you think that their high incarceration is a problem with black men, rather than the police and prisons?

[–]hirayama_ronin -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago* (9 children) | Copy Link

It is a problem for black men and black boys.

You people are insane.

Edit.

  1. My post wasn't responding to anyone negatively. I wasn't starting a fight. Didn't make any accusations. It was just my a reaction to OP.

  2. My post might have been better phrased, but it is not racist. It is clearly a call for interracial alliance.

  3. Vague trolling by /u/notacrackheadofficer and /u/its_2am are not informative or helpful. It's just rude.

  4. Assuming I'm a racist, saying things like "And you think that..." without even asking a question is rude and presumptuous.

You people are stirring sh_t.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

I'm not trolling at all.

You have to see how calling for black boys to be taken away from black men and put under the care of white men can be seen as racist, right?

It's a terrible solution to the problem you're trying to solve.

[–]hirayama_ronin -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

You have to see how calling for black boys to be taken away from black men and put under the care of white men can be seen as racist, right?

But I didn't say that. You're assuming I said that. I said white privileged men need to love black boys. You are misinterpreting my words, in the worst possible way.

White privileged males loving black boys might mean volunteering somewhere in an inner city school. It might mean funding a youth sports team. The possibilities are limitless.

But you jump to some kind of paranoid colonial fantasy. That's you.

Edit.

Stop reading my posts. Stop replying to my posts. You have nothing to contribute to any conversation I am engaged in.

[–]notacrackheadofficer 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Are you Hitler Jr? Here to order everyone around?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

You really could have been clearer there. It's almost as if your original comment was designed to provoke a reaction. You're either backtracking or you're just not a very good writer.

Either way, I don't care anymore either, just be more clear next time.

[–]notacrackheadofficer 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There's only me here. No group I'm aware of.
You're just words on a screen, from my angle. How do I look from there?
I hope you can't see my hair. It's a proper disaster. .

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