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"Most expensive case of all time" results in women who choose to identify as men being able to walk in and use men's urinals. No choice for men. Meanwhile, women dont get their privacy invaded because they have seperate cubicles. Similar laws happening across America.

Rethgil

April 9, 2018
8 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/prop-1-alaska-transgender-bathroom-bill-anchorage-votes-no-election-2018-a8295196.html
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Title "Most expensive case of all time" results in women who choose to identify as men being able to walk in and use men's urinals. No choice for men. Meanwhile, women dont get their privacy invaded because they have seperate cubicles. Similar laws happening across America.
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Rethgil

Upvotes 8
Comments 57
Date April 9, 2018 9:15 PM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/8b22k3/most_expensive_case_of_all_time_results_in_women/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/most-expensive-case-of-all-time-results-in-women.903069
https://theredarchive.com/post/903069
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Comments

[–]kree8or 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

i struggle to understand why anyone cares who pisses beside them, regardless of gender. there are so many more important things to fight for. i’ve used many unisex bathrooms, especially in europe. hell, i’ve used a unisex shower at a festival (a bit awkward but i got over it). there are so many important issues to be dealt with around mens rights, and women’s rights. in my view this ought not to feature quite so highly.

[+]6New6World6Order61 points 8 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Tbh I don't like public restrooms or showers in general. I don't want to use the toilet around anyone especially not women. I'd be less bothered if they fit cameras into the toilets (to stop false metoo accusations) but I would still not be comfortable with it. It's not just a male thing I'm sure women don't want men in their restroom either. People are so stupid. Toilets should all be single blocked anyway like they should have been in the first place. That way no one has to use the toilet around anyone else (the way it should be) and then we would never need this stupid debate to begin with.

[–]MRA-automatron-2kb 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No women don't want it either, that's the point of all the photos being posted of women getting to keep their women only public washrooms while men are forced to share them.

And men keep accepting this encroachment.

[–]Rethgil[S] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

This is an issue for many men who dont want their genitalia or their sons genitalia exposed to women who call themselves men.

So you say, you dont care abput that. Fine. What mens rights issues do you care about where you feel women get unfair or unequal advantages then?

[–]kree8or 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Well, domestic violence and child custody are very serious issues for men. They destroy lives. Who sees your pee pee really doesn’t.

[–]Ogg66 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Speaking for myself, I do feel very uncomfortable in such situations and would guess others do as well. It may not be as important as other issues but for many it is an issue.

[–]MRA-automatron-2kb 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I do too, I want to use my urinals with no women around.

Same way women would feel uncomfortable if I went in their washrooms (and they have cubicles).

[–]Rethgil[S] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. Its really not a complicated issue. A lot of men feel uncomfortable about this, yet are being denied their basic right to privacy to do a basic human essential thing.

Yet again men are not given any choice or equality whilst womren get their privacy, yet get to say when men font, by having a vote on the issue.

[–]MRA-automatron-2kb 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

yet get to say when men font, by having a vote on the issue.

is "font" a typo, I don't understand ~ thanks

[–]Rethgil[S] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Kind of! My tablet seems to have the worst autocorrect in the world. It lets typos through, yet autocorrects normal words into gibberish....

Ta for pointing it out.

Its meant to read ""when men don't"

[–]MRA-automatron-2kb 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

that's better!

And I noticed it's always quiet in men's public washrooms.

If women are allowed in, they will start yapping so much I won't be able to pee.

When I was in elementary school, a feminist teacher would send a girl to supervise us from behind as we boys were at the urinals.

It was humiliating!

[–]Rethgil[S] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

A lot of men feel differently, especially when it comes to who sees their son's 'pee pee', as you put it.

And to not even allow them that basic equal right that women have there? Thats fucked up.

[–]kree8or 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I take your point about children. But that’s about children’s rights per se, irrespective of the chromosomes somebody has. Nobody should be invading their privacy. The legal assymetry aside (as I said, I feel there are greater injustices that men need addressing), why does the gender of the person sharing a bathroom with matter to people? Why the discomfort? Whats the rationale? If it’s about danger, men are an equal relative threat. If it’s about theology, then I disagree that it is a good basis for a legal argument. That’s me.

I just think there are bigger fish to fry in terms of gender rights and want to understand why so many people get caught up in bathroom issues.

[–]Rethgil[S] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

irrespective of the chromosomes somebody has

But it is though. Thats the key point. No offense, but I posted here many many times the same thing, explaining this in detail.

Please read those.

[–]kree8or 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

okay. thanks. will do.

[+]6New6World6Order61 points 8 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Toilets have never been done correctly. All toilets should be single and walled off effectively. Public toilets are communist style and disgusting. There are holes at the bottom and top. Why? Because someone is clearly getting off on treating human beings like animals. There should be no such things as shared toilets in the first place, all toilets should be single roomed, wouldn't you feel more comfortable crapping in a walled off block? Fuck public toilets.

[–]Rethgil[S] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So lets not compound the mistake by letting even MORE people see men's private parts when they dont even get a choice.

Men arent allowed to have open shirts in SHOPS-yet dont even get a say in who sees their naked GENITALS??

Thats seriously fucked up.

[–]furchfur 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

You have a very misleading title there.

[–]Rethgil[S] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

No. Not even slightly. Took great care and edited the title three times before I posted to be fair and clear. And the article linked to is FOR the change, and from a feminist biased paper.

The title raises a simple fact that the story is not considering at all-the issue of mens rights-which is the name of this sub.

Its a totally valid point. Granting trans men or women access to toilets has a disproportionate impact on genetically born male users of those corresponding toilets than it does female ones.

And the comparison would be female changing rooms and allowing men to enter them simply because they identify as female. Which unsurprisingly, women are against changing laws for by comparison.

This is another simple example of unequal rights or consideration for men. Boys will have their genitalia exposed to women who call themselves male.

Girls will not.

[–]cld8 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

No one has their "genitalia exposed" in any bathroom, regardless of gender.

Males who are uncomfortable using urinals can always use the stalls.

Your title is very misleading. The initiative was gender-neutral.

[–]Rethgil[S] -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh dear. Where to start with your post so full of lies?

Firstly-HOW is my post misleading-I already addressed that issue which you conveniently ignore. So please dont smear unless you have proof.

Secondly-Men CANT use stalls. They are NOT cleaned or maintained as well or often as female stalls are and so are sometimes smeared with shit, or have drug paraphernalia in there, or glory holes, or an inch of piss on the floor.

Thirdly-you ignore the main issue of privacy when using a urinal.

The only person being 'misleading' is you. Clearly.

[–]cld8 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Firstly-HOW is my post misleading-I already addressed that issue which you conveniently ignore. So please dont smear unless you have proof.

Your post is misleading because men have the same access to stalls as women. The urinals in men's bathrooms are an addition to the stalls, not a replacement. Men can go into stalls and have the same privacy as women.

Secondly-Men CANT use stalls. They are NOT cleaned or maintained as well or often as female stalls are and so are sometimes smeared with shit, or have drug paraphernalia in there, or glory holes, or an inch of piss on the floor.

What is your basis for this claim? At every place I'm familiar with, the cleaning schedule is the same for both bathrooms. Of course men's bathrooms might be smeared with whatever, but what makes you think the women's don't?

Thirdly-you ignore the main issue of privacy when using a urinal.

Again, using a urinal is optional. There are always stalls available.

[–]Pillowed321 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Took great care and edited the title three times before I posted to be fair and clear.

then maybe you should have edited a fourth time because you're lying when you say "no choice for men." The bill was gender neutral. Transmen can use the men's room and transwomen can use the women's room. Where's the men's rights issue? Where's the discrimination?

[–]Rethgil[S] -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wheres your logic pal?

READ my other posts where I took the time to EXPLAIN how its a clear example of inequality and denying men reasonable privacy which women do NOT equally face.

When youve done that, then come back and try again.

[–]thrway_1000 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Hard to say on this issue what's right, but the title of this post is bad and too editorialized.

Archive -- https://archive.is/OqFYr

[–]Rethgil[S] -2 points-1 points0 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How?

Nobody has actually been able to answer that yet, you among the few claiming it.

And every person who claimed that, also ducked addressing the clear cut issue.

Wonder why that is... A bias among those people claiming it maybe?

So I wonder how many of them consider themselves 'Trans' or dont identify as "MALE"....?

[–]MRA-automatron-2kb 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women won't understand the drip shake off and will accuse of us #Metoo.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Look, no matter where I am, if I gotta shit or piss, I will shit or piss. If I can't understand the pictograms on the door, I'll just open it and do my thing. If there aren't any or I'm forbidden from entering, I WILL drop a deuce in a washtable somewhere if I have to.

[+]prawnandcocktail1 points 8 years ago* [recovered] (29 children) | Copy Link

No choice for men? What are you talking about?

"Women" who identify as men are men...

[–]Splatriarchy 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

If I identify as a jelly donut that doesn't make me one. Just because you identify as whatever does not change your DNA. Females have two X chromosomes and Males and one X and one Y. You don't get to decide what gender you are no matter how politically correct you want to make it.

[+]prawnandcocktail1 points 8 years ago* [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

I'll have you know I am a jelly, and I find your remarks very offensive.

[–]Splatriarchy 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You have every right to feel offended.

[–]Pillowed321 -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

Regardless of your point how does that have anything to do with men's rights? In what way are men being discriminated against here? Women who identify as men can use the men's room and men who identify as women can use the women's room. Why is that a men's rights issue if the genders are being treated equally?

Fuck off to some anti-SJW subreddit if you want to whine about transgender people this doesn't belong on /r/mensrights.

[–]Splatriarchy -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

If you don't get it now an explanation from me will probably go right through that skull of yours. I was replying to someone whose view on transgender bs is skewed. I'm sorry you are too slow to see that and think you are some Men's Rights policeman who tries to enforce what everyone talks about. Thanks for continuing to make this subreddit a hostile place where free speech is stifled by oppressive opinions like yours. Settle down a little bit and allow others to talk ok?

[–]Pillowed321 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

You're right I'm being way too hostile I should follow your lead because your so respectful and you obviously care so much about men's rights that's why you want to derail discussions of men's rights with off-topic posts like this.

[–]Splatriarchy 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. Go ahead and keep being hypocritical by trying so hard to keep things on topic that you derail the conversation to what you want to talk about. You can stop now or keep being a policeman and try to control. It's up to you.

[–]Pillowed321 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

that you derail the conversation to what you want to talk about

yes I'm such a hypocrite for wanting to talk about men's rights on a subreddit for men's rights.

[–]Splatriarchy 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What exactly are you talking about?

[–]Rethgil[S] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Bull. You havent talked about mens rights at all.

Youve only told us all that you think youre right and we're all wrong. Then got aggressive.

Then asked the same question despite it being answered in many posts here.

[–]Pillowed321 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Okay retard, whatever you say. Have fun whining about pointless non-issues because you don't care about men's rights.

[–]Rethgil[S] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What are you-like Ten yesrs old or something?

[–]Rethgil[S] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The poster obviously has an agenda and is just trying to derail with questions to which the answers are ALREADY posted many times in this thread.

Add in their aggression and its clear theyre not worth anybodys time.

[–]Splatriarchy 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree. I also don't care if a woman wants to use the mens bathroom. I use the womens when the mens is occupied. I even put the toilet seat back down.

[–]Rethgil[S] -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

if the genders are being treated equally? / Fuck off to some anti-SJW subreddit

You fucking ass clown. Right there you show your ignorance and your true colours.

Already explained why in multiple posts. Youre just looking to blur a clear cut issue. Dont ask questions when you clearly have no interest in finding out the answers.

Women. Dont. Have. Their. Naked. Genitalia. On. Show.

Men. Do. At. Urinals.

Not equal. So YOU take your obvious agenda and fuck off yourself. Twat

[–]Pillowed321 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Then use the stall dumbass.

[–]Rethgil[S] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh look. You ignored the answer I gave to your question about it.

Yawn.

[–]Pillowed321 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

And the bill also applies to transwomen using the women's room. /u/Rethgil is just lying in the title because they hate transgendered people and want to hijack the men's rights sub to push their agenda that has nothing to do with men's rights.

[–]Rethgil[S] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

God you really are a prick. Ive now reported you for blatant lying and smearing.

Youve been asked by multiple posters in multiple posts to explain yourself but youve not ONCE backed up your claims with ANY proof and not once addressed the many answers prople have provided you with.

Youve been aggressive, youve lied, youve smeared, youve ignored answers to your questions without even acknowledging they were posted, now youve tried to specifically target and name me, after earlier accusing me of other things.

I'd say its pretty clear to posters now what you are and how dumb you are.

[–]Pillowed321 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

#triggered

[–]Rethgil[S] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link

Not genetically. And culturally, try getting laws changed to allow men identifying as women to be able to access places where they would be around naked women who had their genitalia exposed, such as female changing facilities....then see the comparison of reactions and what happens....

Not sure if youre deliberately trying to cloud the clear issue or actually really cant understand it.

[–]Pillowed321 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

You're not even "clouding the issue" you're just lying. This law applied to men and women. Men who identify as women would be allowed to use the women's room

[–]Rethgil[S] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

What is your agenda here really-cut the crap and admit it.

Youve takren the time and effort to spray dumb questions multiple times here even though its been answered many times. So why are you trying to smear and imply otherwise?

[–]Pillowed321 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Cry about it some more.

[–]Rethgil[S] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Are you Trans or something yourself? Why are you taking all this so personally?

[–]Pillowed321 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Did a transman steal your girlfriend? Why are so hostile to trans people? You didn't make this post because you care about men's rights. The only reason you made this post was to whine about transgendered people.

[–]Rethgil[S] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh dear! Well, at least you made me laugh with that last post.

Dodge the question if you like. Youve already burned yourself across your various posts.

I feel for you. I honestly do. I dont know your story but you clearly have some personal problems.

[–]Ogg66 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well from the point of men identifying as women, its great as it is causing a great rift between feminists. The more there is bitter infighting between Terfs and the others the less time they can spend going on about toxic men. Then there are the trans activists who identify as feminists who get violent and somewhat sexually predatory* who make others think less of feminists as a group. The greater the fractures with in feminism the better.

*There are videos of trans feminists saying refusing them as they have a cock is abuse etc, one by someone called Riley I recall.

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