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A stunning chart shows the true cause of the gender wage gap

Red-Pill-Times

March 10, 2018
50 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://www.vox.com/2018/2/19/17018380/gender-wage-gap-childcare-penalty
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Title A stunning chart shows the true cause of the gender wage gap
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Red-Pill-Times

Upvotes 50
Comments 9
Date March 10, 2018 12:13 AM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/83bh00/a_stunning_chart_shows_the_true_cause_of_the/
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Comments

[–]aussietoads 41 points42 points43 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well there you go. Stop having children and all the 'problem' will disappear!

Yes, a woman's earnings may go down as a result of having children.

And very often a man's earnings go up (by working overtime) to make up for the the decreased FAMILY income.

How dare we men oppress our women and children by working harder to make up for our whole family's income loss.!

[–]fengpi 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Well there you go. Stop having children and all the 'problem' will disappear!

But but but how can a womyn do that when the patriarchy forces her to have children???/??/?

You see?? You see?? It's a no-win situation! The patriarchy forces a womyn to have children and that forces her out of the workforce and they're forced to have lower earnings and that forces them into dependency upon their husbands (and their husbands can easily handle that for they are forced to do nothing and burdened not at all). They're punished both coming and going, at every turn and twist, no matter what they say or do. Boo, oh, boo hoo. To be a womyn is to suffer helplessly and endlessly.....

[–]fengpi 25 points26 points27 points 8 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Wait wait, hold on.... so what they're saying is-- and stop me if I'm barking up the wrong tree here--- if I were to scale-back and/or stop work entirely for many years at a time... I would earn less than someone who doesn't??? Whoa.

Is that the secret here? To stop working means earning less than someone who doesn't stop working? My god, that's earth-shaking! And, conversely, to work more means to earn..... more?

Whoa, man. Mind. Blown.

It's a shame that child-bearing isn't a choice nowadays, isn't it? And that this isn't a self-selected "penalty" that the author is describing, which normally gets called an "opportunity cost" in any other kind of economic situation?

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Did these people just step-off the flying saucer from fucking Pluto or something? No wonder they find obvious things "stunning."

Apparently, the patriarchy pushes women out of the workforce and penalizes them for not being in the workforce. That's not a very smart policy, patriarchy. Not very smart at all. If you were smart, patriarchy, you would make a woman's children more lovable and joyful than punching numbers into an Excel spreadsheet and everyone knows that Excel spreadsheets are the funnest things around!

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In fact it's such a horrible choice that most women prefer it

[–]EricAllonde 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The other is a biological explanation: that women may have a stronger preference for spending more time in activities related to child care.

“What our evidence shows is that a lot of gender inequality is associated with choices that suggest different preferences,” Kleven says.

Blasphemy! Burn the heretic! Such inconvenient facts must never be spoken!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Negative facts are only facts if they're about men.

If they're about women they're "MISOGYNY!!" which should be dealt with post-haste

[–]Imawildedible 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I’d like to see these charts with average child support figured in to the income numbers. Add the amount women are paid to their numbers and subtract the amount men are forced to pay from their numbers. My guess is that it shrinks up that gap significantly.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Add anything women get from taxes beyond the gender split as well, as men are the majority of tax payers.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're probably all eager to see the feminist response to reality so I typed it up for you.

Feminists: Damnable sexism, forcing women to stay home with their kids -

Feminists: What? Polls show most women would rather stay home and it's largely biology?

Feminists: What? Even if it weren't it's on women to have a spine and communicate with their spouse?

Feminists: Gee, this whole "Women are intelligent adults who need to be authoritative when it matters" and "Biology can't be erased" sure sounds odd to me, I think you're a misogynist!

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