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Is Jordan Peterson the stupid man's smart person?

DevoutSubculture

January 24, 2018
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Title Is Jordan Peterson the stupid man's smart person?
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DevoutSubculture

Upvotes 0
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Date January 24, 2018 2:40 AM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/7sk0an/is_jordan_peterson_the_stupid_mans_smart_person/
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Comments

[–]TibsKirk 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is author is pretty low hanging fruit, but JBP should invite for an interview. The article is so smug, as if, "I can figure out the conservative lunatic after a day of web searching" vs. JBP's lifetime of learning on complex issues and philosophies.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

I tried to read this article because I was looking for honest critiques of Peterson, since I don't like being trapped in echo chambers. I found this article and stopped reading around the part where the author makes fun of Peterson's voice. It's not an article in good faith. It's a hit piece.

[–]deciples 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

just like the google memo they have all been hit peices. concidering feminists have always said the "fact" they arent represented in media means they have no power. well the ideology is certainly main stream so what does that say?

[–]TibsKirk 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's good that you reach outside echo chambers with an open mind. I do so too, but it's always so disappointing when it comes to intellect, reason, and evidence. Particularly from the left, and I say that as a former leftie.

[+]GunOfSod1 points 8 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Why don't you just listen to him and make up your own mind?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because people can have different perspective's that are useful. He might say something that aren't right and while I might believe him if I read a secondary source someone might show how he is wrong with evidence. Is this really a question?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It works as comedic relief from his pathetic fanbase spamming the page of MensRights with his bullshit.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It only serves to prove him right and embolden his supporters to double down on their support while making, the author look like a child. Not a good strategy from any angle. Hit pieces are never a good way to attack your opponents. If he really is saying "bullshit" then address the bullshit, instead of this childish "he has a high pitched voice lul" non sense.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hit pieces are fine actually. Inaccurate hit pieces or calling on "misogyny" is fairly stupid, but people are going to get sick of him one way or the other because his fans spam him everywhere so I wouldn't worry about it.

Hit pieces are never a good way to attack your opponents.

If that were true Jordan peterson's content wouldn't be popular. If they don't work, there's no problem. Except that they do work and I think you know that. If you don't like it, stop spamming.

You could always engage with people on the academic level since making fun of shrill whiners isn't your style.

https://www.reddit.com/r/enoughpetersonspam/comments/7scx1k/the_map_of_meaning_is_not_the_territory_part_11/

[–]zulu127 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That article is an "editor's pick"?! Pathetic.

[–]aussietoads 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

@OP: Please use post an archive version of an article when linking to an article that doesn't allow for comments to rebuke the article.

[–]Sasha_ 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

How 'stupid' can a man be if he's listening to speeches and lectures by a Canadian clinical psychologist?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Why would that be a guarantor of intelligence?

[–]Sasha_ 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Well it's an indicator of some level of intelligence surely; it takes a good base of knowledge in psychology, history, literature, and philosophy simply to be able to understand and process what the man has to say.

I can't be the only one here who sometimes thinks that, well, take the 'gender earnings gap' for instance. Anyone who thinks for a split second would realize that if men are 95%+ of work deaths then you might have to pay them a bit more. So it demonstrates at least a basic level of critical thinking and intellectual reasoning.

Often we in the MRA camp ascribe all sorts of motives to our enemies - but I increasingly wonder if a lot of feminists and SJWs aren't simply a bit thick or retarded.

[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points-3 points 8 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

"“Postmodern neo-Marxism” is Peterson’s nemesis, and the best way to explain what postmodern neo-Marxism is, is to explain what it is not—that is, it is entirely distinct from the concept of “cultural Marxism.”

“Cultural Marxism” is a conspiracy theory holding that an international cabal of Marxist academics, realizing that traditional Marxism is unlikely to triumph any time soon, is out to destroy Western civilization by undermining its cultural values. “Postmodern neo-Marxism,” on the other hand, is a conspiracy theory holding that an international cabal of Marxist academics, realizing that traditional Marxism is unlikely to triumph any time soon, is out to destroy Western civilization by undermining its cultural values with “cultural” taken out of the name so it doesn’t sound quite so similar to the literal Nazi conspiracy theory of “cultural Bolshevism.”

To be clear, Jordan Peterson is not a neo-Nazi, but there’s a reason he’s as popular as he is on the alt-right. You’ll never hear him use the phrase “We must secure a future for our white children”; what you will hear him say is that, while there does appear to be a causal relationship between empowering women and economic growth, we have to consider whether this is good for society, “‘’cause the birth rate is plummeting.” He doesn’t call for a “white ethnostate,” but he does retweet Daily Caller articles with opening lines like: “Yet again an American city is being torn apart by black rioters.” He has dedicated two-and-a-half-hour-long YouTube videos to “identity politics and the Marxist lie of white privilege.”

[–]gdfsdgfsgsddgsf 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Cultural Marxism is replacing the bourgeois and proletariat with man/woman, black/white, etc. It's the same wedge idea based in sociological conflict theory. Divide and conquer.

Why are all you socialists so stupid?

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I doubt you'll be able to find a socialist less intelligent than yourself.

[–]baconit4eva 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The person writing the article is trying to be like Cathy Newman and twisting JPs words. "I'm not saying JP is a nazi or that he ever said he was, he just uses lots of words, so he may be a Nazi"

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn't agree with a couple of points in the article, but that's NOT what was said and you're a disingenuous little shill for saying it. What it was pointing out is that is new career is based on pleasing his far-right youtube disciples.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This shill is posted 20 times a day so fuck it, I'll read anything that steps away from the kool-aid chugging fanatics.

[+]GunOfSod1 points 8 years ago* [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Everyone who disagrees with me is a fanatic.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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