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A Trans Teen Killed Himself After Hospital Staff Constantly Called Him A Girl

DougDante

November 12, 2017
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https://www.nostraightnews.com/trans-teen-killed-hospital-staff-constantly-called-girl/
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Title A Trans Teen Killed Himself After Hospital Staff Constantly Called Him A Girl
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DougDante

Upvotes 7
Comments 13
Date November 12, 2017 2:49 AM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/7ccwdj/a_trans_teen_killed_himself_after_hospital_staff/
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Comments

[+]MagicTampon1 points 8 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

I think the mom is as much to blame as anyone else.

Something like this is nothing to commit suicide over...

[–]JebberJabber 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

The article is a misleading piece of shit, I'm disappointed people feel it worth commenting on something so brief from an unknown site when the article it is based on is from a high quality site and is linked within it.

The original Washington Post article is worth reading:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2016/10/03/mother-sues-hospital-for-discrimination-after-staff-kept-calling-her-transgender-son-a-girl/

[–]William__F0ster 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

This is tragic, as any suicide inevitably is, but the alleged behaviour of the hospital staff has nothing to do with this.

For a start, people tend not to refer to you in the third person in your presence so it's hard to imagine how often this could have happened.

Much more importantly, the reason this child was in the hospital in the first place was for observation because of the risk of self-harm of suicide.

The mother is sick with grief and is bound to lash out.

But that headline is clickbait rage-bullshit.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

For a start, people tend not to refer to you in the third person in your presence so it's hard to imagine how often this could have happened.

It's probably cultural (mainly depending on the language), but when my sister was in the hospital after a suicide attempt, all the nurses and doctors called her "little girl" (it's a Greek term of endearment). They'd be like: "How's our little girl doing today?"

I dunno, maybe they said something equivalent to the trans person?

[–]William__F0ster 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I dunno, maybe they said something equivalent to the trans person?

That's quite possible, yes.

Also I suppose that if she were sedated she might well have overheard them use she/her in cases like e.g. Have you moved her? Has she had her medication? etc.

Regardless, the idea that this is what caused her to commit suicide is almost certainly nonsense - as I said already, the reason she had been in the hospital in the first place was concerns over her suicidal thoughts.

Pronouns did not cause this girl's death and to suggest that it did is absurd.

[–]JebberJabber 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

"I would call you a boy but you are such a beautiful girl".

That and the claim it was repetitive suggests a staff member who simply should not have been allowed on that ward. Suicidal patients are routinely extremely sensitive, and teens are too. You can train staff to parrot the right words in definable and supervised situations but you can not fix a basic failure of empathy, if that is all it was. It could also have been malicious, or religious or political toxicity. All of those do happen in hospitals.

The suicide was six weeks after leaving hospital.

The mother does not blame the hospital for the suicide. She wants them to fix their internal communications and train their staff to be competent in their job.

The original Washington Post article is much more informative:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2016/10/03/mother-sues-hospital-for-discrimination-after-staff-kept-calling-her-transgender-son-a-girl/
.

Hospital staff can be abusive. I know of a woman who went in after a suicide attempt or particularly gruesome bit of self-harm and on admission received a 20 minute harangue from a Christian therapist about how she was going to hell for being lesbian. (She is in a homophobic family and area but claiming to be lesbian seems easiest. Actually she's autistic and thinks she's probably asexual. Anyway she loathes human touch even from her family).

Another time as a teen she was a bit resistant on admission so was held down and stripped completely naked by three men. They do need to check for self-harm tools and existing wounds but that incident got added onto her already severe PTSD, she says she would literally kill herself rather than go back into hospital.

There is a serious problem in heavily religious parts of the world. Many religious staff are professional but too many over-ride their training with their religion.

[–]William__F0ster 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hospital staff can be abusive.

Sadly, this is very true.

[–]aokusman 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I doubt hospital staff would call him a girl if they were aware that he was not.

[–]JebberJabber 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

At admission his mother made them aware he was trans, provided his legal change of gender ID to be kept on file, and asked that his ID be respected. That should have gone into his notes as a critically important and relevant bit of info.

Even if that info never reached the ward the hospital staff were outrageously incompetent and never should have been working on a ward handling suicidal teens. E.g. "I would call you a boy but you are such a beautiful girl" reflects more than just unawareness of trans issues but a basic failure of empathy, or worse.

The Washington Post article is far more informative:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2016/10/03/mother-sues-hospital-for-discrimination-after-staff-kept-calling-her-transgender-son-a-girl/

[–]Deipnoseophist -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Seems like fake news. One of those articles designed for nothing more than to get people emotional. Also really not men’s rights.

[–]ThePigmanAgain 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2016/10/03/mother-sues-hospital-for-discrimination-after-staff-kept-calling-her-transgender-son-a-girl/?utm_term=.47dac56e8b87

[–]ThePigmanAgain -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If true, it is both unfortunate and a sign of how sick these people are. You could call me a turnip all day, pretty sure i won't kill myself.

[–]JebberJabber 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Read the Washington Post article you linked. It makes much more sense and contradicts the impression given by the OP.

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