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Woman Who Tossed Her Newborn Baby From 8th Floor Gets Probation; State Drops All Murder Charges

JohnKimble111

July 11, 2017
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/r/MensRights
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Title Woman Who Tossed Her Newborn Baby From 8th Floor Gets Probation; State Drops All Murder Charges
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JohnKimble111

Upvotes 35
Comments 17
Date July 11, 2017 6:56 AM UTC
(9 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/6mkkqf/woman_who_tossed_her_newborn_baby_from_8th_floor/
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[–]LateralThinker13 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-woman-dropped-baby-high-rise-met-1120-20151119-story.html

Okay, this story goes deeper than the followup story, which omits a bunch of points.

1) She's from a Pakistani muslim family: read religious fundamentalists. 2) She was dating her African American boyfriend, who her family disapproves of, since the age of 13 (but is no longer dating) 3) When her parents found out about him, they homeschooled her for her Junior/Senior years (pulled her out of school). 4) Subsequently she graduated and is not at Devry college. 5) The killing was at least in part (according to her) because the child was mixed-race.

You want to know why this isn't getting more press? It's not really an MRA issue at all: it's first and foremost a race and religious issue. And since Islam is beloved by most MSM, you won't hear much more about this one.

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[–]andejoh 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

It's called the sentencing gap. It's also called men having no reproductive rights and women seemingly being given the right to post birth abortion.

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[–]andejoh 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I disagree. I think you have enough. She was cut a break because she was afraid of her parents. Elizabeth Coast was supposedly afraid of her parents not approving of her porn use so she falsely accused a neighborhood boy (she claimed the rape was several years prior) Jonathan Montgomery with rape. He spent 5 or so years in prison she had to pay him like $15,000 a year he spent in prison and spend like 2 years worth of weekends in jail. There are many many more women who claim this. It's a huge men's rights issue (It's not always parents they're afraid of upsetting. Sometimes it's a boyfriend or simply a friend.)

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[–]andejoh 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I disagree. It all stems from the idea that women have no agency and so must be protected from the negative consequences of their actions. If they can blame a man or a parent or society in general, they get off or government subsidies or preferential treatment / accomodation.

There is nothing in the article to suggest that she was given special treatment for another reason. They don't even allege that her parents were physically abusive. Then you top it off with the seriousness of the crime. Do you a man would get anywhere near the sentence?

[–]xNOM 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah sorry. Short of insanity there's no good reason to murder a baby. Do you seriously believe a male baby murderer could come up with an excuse and not go to prison?

[–]Adanu0 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Then enlighten us, instead of being judgmental yourself.

[–]perplexedm 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link

That womyn is 19 years old, child also belong to her partner, not just herself.

If she could take the decision of having sex, bear it till delivering secretly at her home, she could've taken steps for safety of the child.

She along with her partner should be held responsible for her actions.

Edit: Mothers murdering new born children is rampant issue now. It is a men's rights issue for those men who care about their children.

#TeachWomynNotToThrowInfantsInDumpsters is not yet an MRA hashtag (unlike feminasties who create stupid hashtags smearing men) but is called for many a times.

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[–]perplexedm -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

What I am saying is that this is not a men's rights issue.

Her partner boyfriend is also responsible for her child. That way it is also his right to know what happens to the child.

I understand she went through great difficulties, but she was well aware of what she was doing with her life.

I'm saying there is more to consider here than anyone of you who just want to be triggered about it will probably consider.

You better keep your trigger checked.

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[–]perplexedm 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

No shit. But it's still not a men's rights issue.

For any father, his child getting killed by it's mother is a serious issue. Not just an issue for the father, but also a criminal issue for society. Womyn should not be given pussy passes for crimes they do.

You better keep your trigger checked.

That comment clearly went over your head.

That is the problem with you. Commonsense clearly just flies above your head.

Many mothers go through difficult situations in their life after child birth. That does not mean they can all murder their babies (which unfortunately is a trend discussed here many times).

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[–]perplexedm -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

But this is a MURDER problem, not a men's rights problem.

Mothers murdering new born children is rampant issue now.

It is a men's rights issue for those men who care about their children.

[–]LateralThinker13 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Nevermind. The deeper linked articles are much more informative than the linked one is.

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