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High Court Strikes Down Law Favoring Unwed Mothers Over Unwed Fathers

funnyfaceking

June 14, 2017
238 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://www.npr.org/2017/06/13/532674073/high-court-strikes-down-law-favoring-unwed-mothers-over-unwed-fathers
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Title High Court Strikes Down Law Favoring Unwed Mothers Over Unwed Fathers
Author

funnyfaceking

Upvotes 238
Comments 15
Date June 14, 2017 1:30 AM UTC
(9 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/6h4di0/high_court_strikes_down_law_favoring_unwed/
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Comments

[–]CountVonVague 18 points19 points20 points 9 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

Under the law, a child born abroad to an unwed American mother automatically becomes a U.S. citizen if the mother previously lived in the U.S. for a period of at least one year.

In contrast, the child of an unwed father can't become a U.S. citizen unless the father has lived in the U.S. for a continuous period of five years, two of them when he was over the age of 14.

wow that's quite a skewed disparity

fyi it got changed so women now share the men's standard as ginsberg says the women's treatment here was "the exception to the rule". So no, not even table scraps actually.

hmm. Ginsberg's position here is actually interesting as it's signalling a more conservative outlook towards sex-based civil rights and that some entitlements women enjoy above men may be rolled back over coming years unless Congress chooses to extend these same entitlements to men. Frankly this shouldn't be TOO big a problem as when exposed to the genuine concerns of mras many normal people tend to go "oh hey yeah we should totally change that law to be more equal wow".

[–]the_unseen_one 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm shocked this bullshit even got proposed.

[–]CountVonVague 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

surprisingly i've sensed the tide is turning on this issue within the halls of power themselves Before the public at large catches wind. There was that story of the failed attempt to draft women and i think perhaps after that incident someone started saying "ok so how many of these issues can be solved before the MRAs gain public attention again? To you know, deny them talking points?". Also, theres been imo a Massive uptick in the number of "women behaving badly" stories coming across my FB news feed and it seems as if its a, well, op designed to gauge tone or inoculate the general public against "women can do no wrong" rhetoric.

[+]JayzenZoKartesh -8 points-7 points-6 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

well i'm sure the liberal judges would have liked it the other way around, but the conservative judges (And conservatives everywhere) are currently waging a war on any type of immigration or anything that makes it easier to be a US citizen. So you can go ahead and hold them accountable for actually fucking this up, or you can irrationally blame women.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This isn't what conservatives are against. They are against jus soli citizenship where merely being born within the borders of the US is enough for citizenship, regardless of the citizenship of the parent

This ruling is only relevant for children born abroad to American parents. I'm pretty sure Ted Cruz isn't in favor of revoking his citizenship

[–]CountVonVague 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So you can go ahead and hold them accountable for actually fucking this up, or you can irrationally blame women.

lol wtf are you talking about? this is a perfectly fine ruling and ginsberg said it should be up to the congress to extend that former requirement of the women to the men.

[–]learnerbott 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

deleted What is this?

[–]Taxus_Calyx 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Not table scraps. Stone soup. A bunch of hungry people add whatever they have, even if its not much. Everyone gets a bowl of soup in the end.

[–]learnerbott 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

deleted What is this?

[–]Taxus_Calyx 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Mmm, rainbow bread. I always wanted to try it, but alas, I am a white, cis, male. I only eat baby pandas.

[–]learnerbott 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

deleted What is this?

[–]HenryCGk 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's called democracy you get the government you deserve

[–]jeff_the_nurse 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So many "table scraps," "lulling," et cetera comments. Come on, guys. Yeah, it's a minor victory, but it's a victory nonetheless. Maybe this will be a step towards getting some bigger victories in the future. Why can't we just be happy about this?

[–]HenryCGk 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not American so I don't want to tell you what your citizenship laws should be, but:

It's a bit of a shame to have this result in a removal rather than extension of benifits

It is therefore to be said that as of this case the present requirement to pass on us citizenship​ to a child (bourn overseas) of one American and one Alien is that the American parent had 5 years residence and two years after 14, regardless of marriage status and gender of the America parent

If you believe this is unfit (for instance if you would like 1 year for all bastards) contact you congressman and senators using this case as justification for action​

Edit added "after 14,"

[–]Taxus_Calyx 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Disgusting, depraved, deplorable, and despicable. Just like everything else I do. Because I am a straight white male. Sarcasm.

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