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‘She’s not my daughter, now I have to say goodbye’

DougDante

March 7, 2017
32 upvotes
/r/MensRights
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Title ‘She’s not my daughter, now I have to say goodbye’
Author

DougDante

Upvotes 32
Comments 9
Date March 7, 2017 9:33 PM UTC
(9 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/5y3lyf/shes_not_my_daughter_now_i_have_to_say_goodbye/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/shes-not-my-daughter-now-i-have-to-say-goodbye.930018
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Comments

[–]MattLyte 10 points11 points12 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Honestly, what the fuck.

-Woman lies that a man is the father and he doesn't want it, he's stuck with it even if DNA says no.

-Woman lies that a man is the father and he does want it, they take it away even though it only gets fostered.

-Man is actually the father and he does want it, woman kills it to avoid burdening the foster system.

At all times, men and their feelings, their stake, are considered 100% disposable. I feel a negative responsibility to a society that actively despises men so much just for their gender.

[–]Apexbreed 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Poor man and poor baby. What a wretched human being to do that to both of then. And to the biological father too...

[–]thrway_1000 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://archive.is/jNSw9

[–]Troubleshooter11 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That was a fucking heartbreaking read.

[+]JoelTLoUisBadass -7 points-6 points-5 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Tbh this guy is pretty naive, he gets a girl he just started dating pregnant and doesn't think for 1 second "hey wait a sec, I barely know this woman, let me do a paternity test just to make sure she's not lying"

[–]MagicTampon 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, but he's only done it because he's been raised into a bunch of malarkey socialization that attempts to make him think he's not a nice person if he doesn't take a woman at her word.

Unfortunately, a lot of males are raised to be like that.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, but he's only done it because he's been raised into a bunch of malarkey socialization that attempts to make him think he's not a nice person if he doesn't take a woman at his word.

Am I the asshole who doesn't think this excuse holds water? One of my biggest complaints about modern feminism is the abstraction of consequence from action; feminist make every excuse in the book about why they aren't responsible for anything they do ( although a favorite seems to be the amorphous "patriarchy" ). How is this any different?

It has to stop. People need to start taking responsibility for their actions. They need to accept their own naivety when they face consequences they didn't anticipate, and to own their ignorance. How much better would life be if everyone did that?

Owning your ignorance, incidentally, does not mean accepting it. It means acknowledging your lack of knowledge, accepting the consequences and ensuring you never fall for that again. If you are particularly societal minded, you might consider educating others as to the mistakes you made.

[–]MagicTampon 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

How is this any different?

Because, unlike what a feminist might complain about, this is actually true.

Women have a gazillion advocates in the educational system, in the media, and in life, making them aware of potential threats, either real and imagined.

Men have exactly zero of that. Quite the opposite really. Men are continually browbeaten to take inordinate risks to themselves for the sake of women, and that needs to stop.

And also note, guys in this situation aren't asking for any special treatment -- they are just asking to be left alone. Unfortunately, in a lot of jurisdictions, courts wont leave them alone -- courts will force men to support a child that is provably not theirs, regardless. Which is really extremely oppressive if you think about it.

As opposed to, say, a woman who puts herself in a dangerous situation, claims to have been assaulted without proof, where people throw up their hands afterwards and try to tell her, sorry, we can't put the guy in jail because we can't prove what exactly happened. Which really isn't your government doing anything specific to make your life worse, it's just saying it can't possibly be the big hero for you, fix things for you, or unrape you.

Third, I'm not trying to fix feminism. They're basically a lost cause. I'm just trying to make things better for men here on Earth.

"Never try to impress a woman, because if you do she'll expect you to keep up the standard for the rest of your life."

- W. C. Fields

Owning your ignorance, incidentally, does not mean accepting it. It means acknowledging your lack of knowledge, accepting the consequences and ensuring you never fall for that again. If you are particularly societal minded, you might consider educating others as to the mistakes you made.

One shouldn't need to be a victim of this particular scam in order to see a need to make others aware of it. Which is exactly what I'm advocating here.

Or for that matter, to fix the laws that force a man in this situation to support a child that is, provably, not his child.

[–]Incident-Pit 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Now that's what I call a good comment.

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